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Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

Posted on: December 3, 2010 2:09 pm
Edited on: December 3, 2010 2:18 pm
 

Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver/uber blocker Hines Ward went on a bit of a tangent this week about how he thinks the NFL is run by hypocrites.  Truthfully, he might be right, but what he actually said didn’t make a whole lot of sense.   Remember, this guy has a college degree (from UGA), so he obviously can’t be stupid right?  Let’s take a closer look at the words that came out of his mouth shall we? 

Quote number one “The league doesn’t care about us anyway,’’

Long story short, probably not. 99% of players are totally replaceable.  There is no shortage of talent pouring in from the NCAA.  Someone like Hines Ward is particularly replaceable at this stage of his career.  He is an aging receiver who is now better known for his tenacity and blocking skills than for his pass catching ability (though admittedly he is still quite good at that too). That’s a cold hard look at Ward, but he took a hard cold look at the NFL.


Quote number two “They don’t care about the safety of the game. If the league was so concerned about the safety, why are you adding two more games on?”

This quote is just plain stupid.  On face value, it makes sense.  But upon closer inspection, it really doesn’t.  Player safety is in NO WAY related to the length of the schedule.  Player HEALTH and the length of the season are definitely related, but player health and player safety are NOT the same thing.  The crack down on head shots is there to keep players safe.  If they are safer, one can draw the conclusion that their health will be much improved, and thus they can have a longer season.  Thus, the new rules will help facilitate a longer season which, for the record, I am totally against.    


Quote number three “You talk about you don’t want players to drink . . . and all you see is beer commercials.”

Here is another stupid one.  When did the NFL tell their players they don’t want them to drink?  They have said on multiple occasions that they don’t want players to be drunken buffoons who embarrass the league and its brand with their shenanigans, but never that they don’t want them to drink.  If you can’t see the difference, well, that is really kind of sad.


Quote number four “You don’t want us to gamble, but then there are [NFL-endorsed scratch tickets].’’

Okay, he kind of has a point here.  It kind of is hypocritical of the NFL to support gambling in any way, and that should include “the lines”.  Maybe the NFL releases them, maybe they don’t, I don’t actually know.  But if they were serious about cracking down on gambling then they wouldn’t allow their broadcasting networks (Fox, CBS, ESPN) to post the odds on their web site.  I agree that gambling on football is good for the sport.  It gives fans something to cheer about in a game they otherwise would have no vested interest in, and that can only be good for the game.  However, for the NFL to condone it like this is kind of shady if you ask me.  Then again who did? 


After looking at this, one can draw three conclusions.  One, Hines Ward is an idiot.  Two, Hines Ward is frustrated.  Or three, Hines Ward is actually a pretty smart guy who is trying to get sympathy for his cause from a fairly stupid public.  You can select any number of these conclusions I suppose, but I for one happen to think that it is the latter and not the former. Unfortunately for Mr. Ward, not all the public is a stupid as he had hoped.

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Since: Oct 14, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2010 2:48 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

Player HEALTH and the length of the season are definitely related, but player health and player safety are NOT the same thing.

You're really grasping for straws on this one. Player health and player safety are directly related. If a player is put into an unsafe situation, his health is at risk. By adding two games to the schedule, the league is putting players in additional unsafe situations, at the end of the year when they are already banged up and tired. They claim they are looking out for the safety of the players, but adding two games is a complete contradiction of that goal. That was one segment of the quote you should have skipped over instead of completely overanalyzing it. Ward has a point there.



Since: Jul 6, 2008
Posted on: December 5, 2010 3:27 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

hines comments has substance now because the refs missed the call and may have just cost detroit the game on a terrible call



Since: Oct 11, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2010 10:43 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

@umadcuzurafarce

I think you're mostly correct.  Hines was definetly frustrated, but this isnt the first time a steelers player has complained about the new rules this year. 

Another reason I wrote about it is because there are TONS of Steelers fans who agree word for word with what he said.  All I was trying to do was throw my two cents in to the ring.  I think the Steelers are either going to have to change, or kep paying fines.  I really dont care which they pick, but if they think they can play football this way and not take a financial hit, they are mistaken



Since: Jul 27, 2010
Posted on: December 4, 2010 9:46 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

You only need half a brain to figure it out that Hines Ward is frustrated.  He may of worded in a way that some may deem as unintelligent, however if your only half as smart as you deem his comments to be, you can figure out what he means.  A part of me feels for the players, and a part of me says welcome to the real world boys.  The unfair treatment of employees from their big business employers has been reaching new highs or lows, depending on your viewpoint, for the past several years now.  As profits continue to rise so does unemployment.  NFL players are now getting a taste of what it's like to live in this dog eat dog world that the Bush Administration created, the difference is what the NFL players are tasting, taste 6-8 figures better than what the average person will taste.  



Since: Oct 11, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2010 5:46 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

@UhateYourself

I think you may have missed a big part of what I was talking about.  Maybe this is a relfection of my novice writing skills.  You seem to have taken expection with my point about player safety and the length of the season not being related.  I really dont think I can be more clear.  The length of the season has NOTHING to do with safety.  It has EVERYTHING to do with injuries, but injuries and safety are NOT the same thing. 

The rules about headshots are for player SAFETY.  Face it, football is changing.  Maybe that means you wont watch it anymore, but its happening.  There was NEVER a need for all these head shots in the first place.  If you use proper form tackleing, there is no head to head contact. 

"You will them out of the game by beating them up, by hitting them hard. By hurting them... This is football"

I dont even know what to say to this.  Where did this idea that football players have to be gladiators come from?  Look, I like football.  I played football. Did I play in the NFL?  Not even close. Did I play the calibre of football you played?  Probably not.  But I know enough about the game to know you dont have to HURT your opponent. If it happens, it happens.  If you are doing it on purpose, you're a dirty player



Since: Apr 14, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2010 1:44 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

Hines Ward is 100% wrong on all counts.

Players can gamble, they go to Vegas all the time. They cannot gamble on football.
Players can drink, and the league only cares when they do not do so responsibly.
18 games season is the best idea since the 16 game season, and players were lost for the year in the preseason...length of schedule has nothing to do with people being hurt due to the violence of the sport.
The league should not care about dirty players like Hines Ward, the game is better off without them.

Hines Ward is 100% idiot, you can tell by the "simple" smile on his face all the time.


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Since: Dec 4, 2010
Posted on: December 4, 2010 2:40 am
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Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: December 3, 2010 5:02 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

I couldn't agree more about the extra two games."Show me the money!" Players are on their own as far as injury long term effects. Look what Webster's family had to go through. A judge had to tell the league they were wrong. What about drinking and game commercials? The league increases TV money with those commercials. However, not too many players are drinking domestic beer. I bet if you follow them to the places you and I couldn't afford the cover charge they probably don't serve draft or domestic beer. Just $1500.00 bottles of liquor. Did you read about the party Dez Bryant had to pay for and the cost of the booze? Hell, you have 21 year old kids with a  million dollars at their disposal and they want to show it off. Wouldn't you if you had the money and were 21? Many of these youngsters came from pretty bad enviorments and it may be hard for some to leave that culture behind. Money, booze, drugs and tons of money. The objections regarding hits and fines from the NFLPA is underwhelming. Goodell is snookering Maurice Smith and he doesn't realize it. The CBA is give and take and Goodell is building up a lot of stuff he can give back without it costing anything. In my opinion, Hines' rant was spot on. I always thought Upshaw was too cozy with the Commissioners and Smith should start talking about the hits and fines or he may be percieved the same way.



Since: Mar 4, 2008
Posted on: December 3, 2010 4:33 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

Hines ward is a dirty cheap-shot artist, so the league doesn't care what he has to say and neither should anyone else.



Since: Sep 11, 2009
Posted on: December 3, 2010 4:24 pm
 

Hines Rant Has Flavor, But No Substance

Terrible break down... Terrible article, Terrible analysis

Hines Ward hit the nail on the head.. pure hypocrisy...  Adding two games is about money... the season is already to long.  On top of the these penalties are only happening for one reason. To make the league look like they actually care about player safety so they can negotiate a longer season with the players union. Every real sports anylyst knows this. Every real fan that watches the sport know you are full of it..  Please refrain from defending the league for destroying our past time sport.. We want the game to reamain in tact.. Quit fining players for making exceptional plays... James Harrison, he never once lead with his head. He squares up and drives through just like he was taught in midgit football.  Football players, something you by the way know nothing about are taught to beat up the opposing team to take thier head out of the game. You will them out of the game by beating them up, by hitting them hard. By hurting them... This is football.


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