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Childress right in calling out Saints

Posted on: August 18, 2010 9:45 pm
 
Posted by Andy Benoit

Interested in hearing more on Brett Favre? Yeah, neither are we. But it’s August and this is an NFL blog. So our hands are pretty much tied.

This Favre bit actually isn’t bad. It has to do with comments made by Favre’s head coach. Brad Childress was asked Wednesday about the beating Favre took in the NFC Title Game. (You can read his response in the quote box below or just skip ahead to the good part).

“(Brett) knows there somewhere he's going to get knocked on his keister. That's going to happen. As long as we're doing it in the spirit of the rules, he's all good with it and I'm all good with it. In terms of not doing it that way, hey, everybody talks about hitting the quarterback. Let's just hit him the right way."
Childress was then asked if he thought the Saints unduly punished Favre in the NFC Championship. Childress said: "In my opinion, yeah."

That’s not bad fuel to the Week 1 fire, right? However, what mitigates the controversy here is that it’s hard to argue with Childress on this one. The Saints were called for two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties for hits on Favre in that game, and the NFL admitted later that there should have been a third.

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Childress right in calling out Saints

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Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: August 22, 2010 9:02 am
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

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Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: August 21, 2010 10:05 am
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

Knd of hard to argue these calls.  The McCray end around was a real cheap shot.  Farve hands off, takes three steps around the opposite end and gets leveled.  You call that the "blocker", no way

It was a designed rollout after the handoff, which is for one of two reasons: a reverse, or a pass. That is wasn't either means that it was a play designed to test the defense; if they do nothing, then they will see this play again almost certainly as a pass, since I don't think that the Vikings will try to use Favre as a blocker very often.

I could agree with you if it was a running play designed as most running plays are: QB hands off the ball, and goes back, away from the line of scrimmage to avoid unnecessary contact. This was not one of those: they tested the defense, and found it ready.

Defense did it's job; all that's left is to whine that they did it 'too hard'...



Wah.




Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2010 4:53 pm
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

I didn't make any excuses; I'm merely heading off the arguments that Saints fans are going to make to claim that none of those calls were legit.  They mostly were, I stated as much.  Favre certainly was a blocker on the end around; he got in McCray's way when McCray was backside pursuit.  How does he know its not going to turn from an end around into a reverse and come back at him?  Or that the frontside may contain Harvin, allowing him to catch up?  He doesn't.  That said, he put a too much mustard into the hit, and the call was fine.  Favre should have been ready for it, but it was fine that it was called.

I'd prefer to see a game without any penalties called unless absolutely necessary.  You know, real football, the way it used to be played.  Under current rules, however, the end around and high low ARE penalties.  That's fine.  The other should never be called though.

Look at the play without homer goggles on sometime.  Hargrove didn't pile drive Favre.  He didn't pick him up and plant him.  He was off his feet when he hit Favre, gravity did the rest.  If that's a foul, so is almost any hit on the QB.  If that's a foul, then it should have been called when it was done to Brees.  (It wasn't, and shouldn't have been.)  Regardless, it took some lobying by his Favre-ness to get the ref to throw that flag in the first place.  It seems fairly clear (to me) that the refs were giving the Saints a makeup non-call on the high low in light of that mistake.

In the end, it doesn't matter.  We're talking about 3 plays in a whole game.  Plays whose net effect in terms of yardage, was to help the Vikings.  Bottom line: the correct number of calls were made.  The Saints paid the appropriate price for their gameplan to hit Favre whenever it was close.  And it paid off in the end, obviously.

If that's making "excuses", you need a new dictionary.



Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2010 3:18 pm
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

Knd of hard to argue these calls.  The McCray end around was a real cheap shot.  Farve hands off, takes three steps around the opposite end and gets leveled.  You call that the "blocker", no way.

The driving into the ground was also a text book cheap shot.  Can't get more blatant then picking a guy up and pile driving him with your shoulder into the ground.  Tackle him yes, pick him up and drive him into the turf no.  That been a penalty for 10 years.

The third was also a perfect example of the Brady rule, the no call results in an Int taking at least 3 points off the board.  The NFL came out and said they blew it so I am not sure how you can argue any of this.  The Saints took some pretty big liberties with Warner and the Cardinals the week before so you can't give them the benefit of the doubt on any of he cheap shots eithor.




Since: Mar 22, 2007
Posted on: August 20, 2010 2:10 pm
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

Winners find solutions.  Losers find excuses.  I'll let you figure out who's who...
Ah MtCity, you just spent much of your post making excuses...



Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2010 1:28 pm
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

This is getting rediculous.

"The Saints were called for two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties for hits on Favre in that game, and the NFL admitted later that there should have been a third."

First of all, know what you're talking about before spouting off crap like this.  They were called for 2.  They should have been called for 2. 

The first (on McCray for leveling Favre on the end around) was debatable as Favre was a blocker at that point, but McCray didn't have to lay into him that hard.  Fine, whatever.  The 2nd call (on a Hargrove hit for driving the QB into the ground) was total BS and extended the same drive where the 3rd penalty "should" have been called, but wasn't (on the high-low hit where Favre was injured).  I don't like the Brady rule, and McCray appeared to be pushed into the back of Favre's legs, but by the rule, its a foul.  Fine, whatever, but it was a makeup non-call for the nonsence they called just moments earlier.

The exact same thing (as the Hargrove BS roughing call) happened to Brees in the same game and was not called.  Make up (non)calls happen all the time; its part of the game.  Get over it.  Maybe if Childress had half a brain he could have adapted his offenive protection schemes to protect his QB, which he utterly failed to do, so he and the rest of the Vikings world have been grabbing for excuses ever since because its easier than looking in the mirror.

Winners find solutions.  Losers find excuses.  I'll let you figure out who's who...



Since: Oct 16, 2008
Posted on: August 20, 2010 12:27 pm
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

Man, you are so right on with your comments.  It is a double standard everywhere you look.  OK for my guy to do it, but don't do it to us.  If Allen had the opportunity, Brees would not have finished that game!  Don't believe me, ask him.  He will tell you it is his purpose to hurt the QB.  But because it is a senior citizen that played for the Vikes, that is bad?!



Since: Aug 20, 2010
Posted on: August 20, 2010 11:41 am
 

Childress right in calling out Saints

I'm sick of the hypocrisy from the fans, Paul Allen, the players, and now the staff of the Minnesota Vikings. Here are some quick examples:
Here is a great piece from the Daily Noresman back in 2008.
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2008/1

1/4/653790/schaub-injured-in-viking

s"It's pretty obvious that Allen, who had beaten Duane Brown like a drum, was trying to chase down Schaub, and Schaub was then <strong style="outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><em style="outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; font-style: italic; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;">pushed into Allen by defensive tackle Kevin Williams.  It didn't even look like Allen saw it coming.  If that's an "illegal" or "dirty" hit, then let's just put everyone in a skirt and play two-hand touch instead."
Or what about this?Sorry Childress and the Vikings have no credibility when it comes to complaining:Childress post game (Texans) on Favre's illegal Block on Eugene Wilson"(on Favre's block) "I didn't see it, and I haven't spent a lot of time on block the past 10 days. I'm sure he was just blocking for a teammate, but I'm not sure on that one."
Harwin "I appreciate a block and I know he (Favre) was grateful for it too."
AP "He's just playing ball you know. I'm sure he wasn't doing anything to intentionally hurt the guy. He's just out there playing ball."
OK- so Favre was just blocking for a team mate and playing ball so it is ok. 

And even most damning
Childress didn't complain when Jared Allen tried to take off Schaubs legs and were fined 50000
After he was fined 25000 for an illegal hit on Rodgers this was the reaction
"Childress defended his player, arguing that the speed at which Allen rushes makes it difficult to stop in time"

Double Standards or what Childress ???
Just sounds like more crybagging out of Minnesota. Man up, this is football. 


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