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DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

Posted on: March 9, 2011 8:21 pm
Edited on: March 9, 2011 8:33 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

The labor discussions between the NFL and NFLPA center around three main points: revenue sharing, a rookie wage scale and an 18-game schedule. According to DeMaurice Smith, Executive Director for the Players Association, the schedule issue is no longer on the bargaining table.

That's what he told Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated -- who recently appeared on our Eye on Football podcast -- Wednesday evening anyway.

"First of all, the league has never presented a formal proposal for 18 games," Smith said, per Trotter. "But more importantly, it's something that our players don't want. Eighteen games is not in the best interest of our players' safety, so we're not doing it."

There are two days worth of mediation remaining before the current CBA deadline expires, which makes these strong words indeed.

Smith, apparently, spoke to fans after Wednesday's mediation session adjourned, when he had some similarly strong comments about the owners' willingness to open their books.

"How much financial information would you want before you write a $5 billion check?" Smith asked following mediation.

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Provided that Smith and the union won't budge on this issue, and provided that the prior report about a tentative rookie-wage scale are accurate, negotiations between now and Friday could become quite interesting.

If those two issues are off the table, then negotiating a new CBA would come down to revenue sharing, and nothing else. If the owners will allow the union to stand fast by their stance on the schedule, it's conceivable that the union will cave some on the list of required financial documents. (Although the investment bank they hired for an audit may not let them, based on available information.)

On the other hand, this could just as easily lead to a full-on disintegration of any possible CBA discussion and prompt the Armageddon scenario that involves decertification and lots of lawsuits. Either way, the union has made its stance on schedule expansion clear, and they don't appear to be budging.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 4:34 pm
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 6:46 pm
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

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Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: March 13, 2011 12:51 pm
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

I understand your points perfectly, but understanding is not the same as agreeing. I respectfully disagree with those points. And yes, ambition can be a good thing, but it depends on the ambition. I don't think the ambitions of the owners in this dispute are a good or admirable thing.

And your claim of "not trying to get personal" doesn't float very well when the first sentence of your first post to me questioned my personal accomplishments in life.



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: March 13, 2011 10:32 am
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

Not trying to get peronal. Just stating if someone has built a business or achieved something beyond just a job then you should be able to understand the points I make.

Ambition is a good thing and not everyone should bennefit from one persons or group of peoples ambition.  



Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: March 12, 2011 4:44 pm
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

lol....I've done just fine for myself, Vegas. We can debate issues all you want, but let's not get juvenile and personal, especially when you're making assumptions based on nothing.



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: March 12, 2011 12:07 pm
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'



Your thought process is obviously from one who has never achieved much.

The billions the owners have and make are the rewards of the intuitive approach they have taken to business. The players chose to play football. some people chose to be landscapers, or work in fast food or be scientists, cops, lawyers, doctors, investment bankers etc. You have the opportunity in this country to do it on your own. Those who have done it don't owe those who haven't a thing.

The owners chose to get into business and invest money to make money.

Without owners, stadiums, consessions, marketing etc. there would be nothing more than games in the park. Crappy parks because the tax revenue would be so low the cities would not be able to maintain them.

If an owner invested 2 million dollars on overweight 40 year olds and a high school size stadium and played 8 games with a salary mark of 200k the rest to the stadium etc. $3 hot dogs, and $3 beers and $2 parking and the stadium held 5000 people and the tickets were $10 general admission. They received 100k in advertising revenue at the stadium and 100k for small market tv and radio deals the owner would be making a gross of around a million per year. He would be banking about 50% profit after the first 2 years and everyone would like to watch it as it's entertaining. 

Why would they want to spend a billion to make 100 million when they could do the above in several cities.  

The above is rough I know. But is reasonable and it shows they can make money in any situation to have to split with the players is ridiculous.

They are just players. They are the ingrediants for the product. (for those who say the players are not the product)

McDonalds Burgers are pretty good. Red robin is better and the burgers on my grill are the best. But hey they are all burgers.



Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: March 12, 2011 11:45 am
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

These owners are making alot of guys rich

Huh, I thought it was the game of football, the fans and the players' ability that made the players and owners rich. So far as I can see, the owners are the one factor in this equation that is not necessary to actually have a product to sell. The owners themselves generate no direct revenue. They just help facilitate the selling of the product, but really, the product would sell itself if it's good enough.

The players are just the product.

Wrong. Football is the product. The players make the product. If the owners could find other employees to make just as good a prodcut, they would. But, of course, they can't. The owners need the players more than the players need the owners.

Unions are a cancer

Greedy billionaire business owners who just want to keep making more and more money with no regard for anyone else are a bigger cancer. Have you looked at the gap between the wealthy and poor in this country? That is causing far more problems for this country than unions and fantastical phantoms of socialism.



Since: Jul 12, 2007
Posted on: March 11, 2011 4:06 pm
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

These guys have exactly 1 hour to get a deal done... Geez its like a child trying to do their homework last minute... Come on guys get the damn deal done....



Since: Jul 12, 2007
Posted on: March 11, 2011 4:01 pm
 

DeMaurice Smith on 18 games: 'We're not doing it'

These guys have exactly 1 hour to get a deal done... Geez its like a child trying to do their homework last minute... Come on guys get the damn deal done....


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