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Panthers not in love with Clausen or Gabbert?

Posted on: March 10, 2011 3:56 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

Finding out that the Panthers aren't in love with Jimmy Clausen might not seem like news, but it's fairly important with respect to the draft. After all, if everyone in Carolina think his ship has sailed, it's probably time to start drafting a quarterback.

Well, according to Don Banks of Sports Illustrated, the only person left in Clausen's corner is GM Marty Hurney. Oh, and the Panthers aren't big fans of Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert, either.

Banks cites a source who informed him that Hurney is the "only one in the building in Charlotte" who thinks Clausen can still turn into the Panthers starting quarterback. This isn't entirely illogical: watching Clausen play in 2010 made it clear he wasn't progressing quickly. (Duh.) But Hurney drafted him, and therefore has a little bit of loyalty -- even if it's blind -- to the Notre Dame product.

What's particularly interesting about this, but probably won't be publicly noted for quite some time (if ever), is that if everyone's already off the Clausen bandwagon after one season, there's a pretty good chance that John Fox was never on it to start.

Fortunately, Ron Rivera, as a new head coach, isn't likely to be saddled with a quarterback he's not amenable to; in this case, Blaine Gabbert. (And Clausen.)
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And, apparently, Carolina "doesn't really love" Gabbert either. Banks cites a source who tells him the Panthers have concerns about the Mizzou product, because they don't believe he's "accurate enough outside the hash marks and deep downfield."

Those concerns are legitimate given the offense that Gabbert's coming from, and it obviously opens up the door for Cam Newton as the Panthers' No. 1 overall selection. In case the fact that they're holding a private workout with Newton didn't open it enough.

Or a defensive player, if they don't love Cam. But whether or not they turn to the Heisman winner with the No. 1 overall pick in the upcoming draft, it certainly is seeming like there'll be a change at quarterback for the Panthers in 2011.

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Posted on: January 9, 2012 11:35 am
 

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Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:28 am
 

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Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: March 28, 2011 4:34 am
 

Panthers not in love with Clausen or Gabbert?

I couldn't agree with you more!  Too many risks with any of the QB's in the 2011 class and none seem worthy of a # 1 overall pick.  How Gabbert's stock rose to # 1 QB is beyond me!  Prior to Andrew Luck declaring he's staying at Stanford, I didn't hear a peep out of these so called experts about him.  Cam Newton had one really good year and I'm not totally sold on him either.  Combine that with the fact that the Panthers have so many holes and no second round pick due to that asinine trade in 2010 to trade up from the 3rd round to the 2nd round to pick up Armanti Edwards, the Panthers do not have the luxury of screwing up the # 1 overall pick.  Ideally, the Panthers would love to trade down, but I really don't see anyone doing that as there's really no clear cut # 1 pick this year.  If it were me, I'd take Patrick Peterson or Marcell Dareus.  The only offense player I'd remotely consider the Panthers taking at # 1 would be A.J. Green.  Truth be told, I'd be happy if the Panthers took any of those 3 players over any QB from the 2011 class.  Hopefully the Panthers are just blowing smoke with all the QB talk to try and get someone to bite into a trade down scenario. We'll know in just a few weeks.  Gosh I hope the NFL sorts out the lock out and gets free agency going prior to the draft, but even that is highly unlikely..




Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: March 12, 2011 4:03 pm
 

Panthers not in love with Clausen or Gabbert?

"I also have heard he blew the Panthers away in his interviews"
I'm sure we'd all love to know who your sources are.  Adam Schefter at ESPN, Dennis Dillon at The Sporting News, and Don Banks from Sports Illustrated all separately reported that Newton avoided difficult questions during multiple interviews, brushed off his departure from Florida a la Mark McGwire ("I'm not here to talk about the past"-- Newton's words), and got defensive when asked about ignoring his coach's playcall of taking a knee during the BCS Championship Game.  All three of these guys are national writers with solid reputations for reporting good insider information.  If the three of them write that mulitple teams are questioning if Cam Newton has the head for being an NFL quarterback, I'm going to take their side over what you might have heard from the Panthers.

Physically, Newton is the package NFL scouts are looking for.  But based on his brief collegiate history, he's got room to grow.  You'd think with the pedigree of a father who played in the NFL and a brother who plays now, Newton would have a better handle on how to portray himself as a candidate for being the #1 overall pick.  You may not like it, but I can guarantee every NFL scouting department is investigating his laptop episode and allegations of cheating at Florida, the attempted selling of his services to Mississippi State by his father, and his potential for understanding and breaking down pro defenses-- not the ones he faced in college.  I believe he's going to have a very hard time convincing the Panthers to take him #1 overall.  Ron Rivera does not strike me as a man who would take such a chance if there was any lingering doubts in his mind.  I'm expecting Rivera to build a defense-first team by taking Marcell Dareus, Patrick Peterson, Von Miller, or (outside chance) Da'Quan Bowers with the #1 pick unless they can find a sucker team looking to trade up.



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: March 12, 2011 10:56 am
 

Panthers not in love with Clausen or Gabbert?

I admit that I have never understood the love affair that some NFL scouts have with Gabbert.  I also admit that I did not watch a lot of Missouri football either, but the guy's name hardly ever came up on any of the college football shows, be it pregame or postgame.  Maybe he turns out to the the next Aaron Rodgers or whoever, but I highly doubt it.  There is no way, if I am Carolina, that I take a shot at Gabbert.  I would be more inclined to take Newton, and even that is potentially a big risk.  This is really a bad time for a lockout for Carolina as they could trade for a QB like Kolb, but now, they have to take their chances.  At least with the new salary structure for the rookies, it will not cost the team near as much to take a chance on a player if they are so inclined.



Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: March 12, 2011 10:33 am
 

Panthers not in love with Clausen or Gabbert?

Unfortunately, someone has to be ranked the #1 QB on the board, and by default, Gabbert has been annointed. I looked at one game film, and wass not impressed at the total body of work... About a 6.7 YPA is horrible. Because he used quick-rhythm passing, the film I saw resulted in four plays for loss of yardage, as he took his first read and quickly released the ball.

For the most part, ALL D-1 QBs have skill levels to get them to D1. I am just flabbergasted that because Gabbert is the prototype QB with strong arm, size, mobility that it makes him a #1 QB..

It's funny that Chase Daniels was shorter, maybe didn't have the arm strength as Gabbert, but, yet threw for nearly twice as many TDs, a Hesiman finalist, and more yards than Gabbert in the exact same system. That tells me Daniels is a more effective QB. Sometimes the "intangibles" and pedigree is so over-hyped it's ridiculous.

Get me a damn QB that can execute.

I am from Minnesota.. Panthers.. don't make the mistake of taking Gabbert or Newton. Trade down, get more picks, or find someone to replace Julius Peppers..





Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: March 12, 2011 7:54 am
 

Panthers not in love with Clausen or Gabbert?

I am 100% in agreement with you! Laughing



Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: March 11, 2011 10:15 pm
 

Panthers not in love with Clausen or Gabbert?

When I am talking about work ethic I am talking about the 12 hour days he is spending with Warren Moon & George Whitfield getting ready to become an NFL QB. I am also talking about how he came in and learned Auburn's offense in 4 months & then led them to a championship. That kind of work ethic. I also worry a lot less about what guys say & a lot more about what they do. When they lead a team to the National Championship in their first year of D1 ball I might start paying attention. So far he looks like he is doing all the right things to prepare for the draft. I also have heard he blew the Panthers away in his interviews & he killed it on the white board breaking down defenses. If the Panthers take him #1 overall I think they will end up looking pretty smart 3 years from now. I also think the fact that their new scheme will be a more vertical attack with more shotgun would help Newton play from week 1 on. This guy is a special athlete. If he gets coached up he could be really good.


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