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NFLPA files decertification paperwork

Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:06 pm
Edited on: March 11, 2011 9:07 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

At 4:45 p.m., DeMaurice Smith announced to reporters the NFLPA had rejected the owners' most recent offer on a new CBA and the union was demanding 10 years of audited team financial statements by 5 p.m. Friday in order to agree to an extension of the CBA.

The league apparently didn't blink, and Smith and the union followed through with their plan to apply for decertification, having faxed the paperwork to Judge David Doty's office in Minnesota.

"The NFL Players Association it has informed the NFL, NFL clubs and other necessary parties that it has renounced its status as the exclusive collective bargaining representative of the players of the National Football League," the NFLPA said in a statement. "The NFLPA will move forward as a professional trade association with the interest of protecting the current and former professional football players."

The union also faxed a letter to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell , informing him of the decision. In addition, NFLPlayers.com and NFLPA.org were shut down, their home pages set to "404 Error" messages that featured a new URL -- www.nfllockout.com.

This is relatively interesting, as the NFL hasn't actually decided to lock out the players yet, though they purportedly need to make a decision before midnight to either impose the last set of rules or lock the players out, the former which might result in free agency beginning right away .

Either way, mediation, for now, has ended.

"The parties have not achieved an overall agreement, nor have they been able to resolve the strongly held competing positions that separated them on core issues," mediator George Cohen said. "No useful purpose would be served by requesting the parties to continue the mediation process at this time."

This means the NFLPA is no longer a union, but rather a trade association made up of many individuals. And it also means there's a strong likelihood the players will file an antitrust suit against the league. In fact, reports are beginning to leak out that the players have already filed suit against the NFL, and included some pretty big names as plaintiffs.

The NFL carried some pretty hefty public relation's spin in a lengthy statement of its own .

NFL Labor

No one is happy where we are now," NFL lead negotiator Jeff Pash said. "I think we know where the commitment was. It was a commitment to litigate all along."

A league statement added: "The union left a very good deal on the table."

It said the offer included splitting the difference in the dispute over how much money owners should be given off the top of the league's revenues. Under the expiring CBA, the owners immediately got about $1 billion before dividing the remainder with the players; the owners originally were asking to roughly double that by getting an additional $1 billion up front.

Also in the NFL's offer, according to the league:
  • Maintaining the 16 regular-season games and four preseason games for at least two years, with any changes negotiable. 
  • Instituting a rookie wage scale through which money saved would be paid to veterans and retired players.
  • Creating new year-round health and safety rules.  
  • Establishing a fund for retired players, with $82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years.  
  • Financial disclosure of audited league and club profitability information that is not even shared with the NFL clubs.
As you can see, the NFL didn't pull any punches when it came to laying its full proposal (or purported proposal, at least) on the table for the media and the fans. Purported is important, too, because shortly after Pash addressed the media and said many of the same thing, a players' lawyer called him a "liar." 

Pash also said, surprisingly, that there has been no decision made on whether the league will lock the players out yet or not.

That's interesting from the perspective that no lockout would dramatically change the landscape of what we expect to see come down the pipe, but it also seems unlikely that the owners wouldn't take that stance.

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Comments

Since: Oct 26, 2010
Posted on: March 11, 2011 6:03 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

how about the players leave the nfl  for ufl we will see how much the owners would cave in then.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: March 11, 2011 6:02 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

While this is a fascinating story, it has little social relavance.  Real people are being threatened with legislative removal of their collective bargaining rights in fourteen states, as I write this.  Yet, it fails to make the headlines of any major news source. 
I don't know what major news sources you follow, but this subject has been in the news just about every day for the last several weeks -- I course I only watch NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN so maybe those aren't "major news sources" in your book.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:59 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

This means that union is no longer a union, but rather a trade association made up of many individuals. And it also means that there's a strong likelihood that the players will file an antitrust suit against the league, with some very big names playing the role of plaintiff in order to swing the public relations pendulum in the players' favor
This is not going to swing my opinion to the players' favor -- If anything I think less of them, saying yes yes yes we're a union all standing together until they don't get what they want, then suddenly "no, we're not a union" and suing the NFL owners for daring to bargain collectively, while they still attempt to collude together as a "trade association" made up of many individuals.

If the desertification is in good faith, then the players would not be allowed to collude together anymore than the owners.  If the players can be a "trade association" then the owners should be allowed to do the same thing.  If not, then it should be each player negotiating separately with each team for individual contracts and the teams negotiating their own tv deals and scheduling their own games, etc (complete chaos of course) and the players should not be allowed to sue for any "collusion" that occured BEFORE the union decided it was not a union.

Remember, the union pulled this crap before as a negotiating ploy --decertifying during labor negotiations and then, once a deal was reached, saying "just kidding, we really do want to have a union" and starting a new one.

Nobody says the NFL and players have to agree -- they are both entitled to their opinion of what a fair deal is--just be honest about what you're doing and nobody can tell me the NFLPA will not continue to act exactly like a union whether or not they have filed the decertification papers, that it is just a negotiating ploy so they can run to the courts and try to get in the back door what they could not get by negotiating in good faith.  Remeber negotiating in good faith does not mean you get what you want -- both sides can have "lines in the sand" and firmly entrenched positions -- but just because you do not agree does not mean you are not negotiating in good faith and should run to the courts.



Since: Jan 16, 2011
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:59 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

And in five years you will root for them just as much as these greedy ones that are pricing themselves out of a job, when they are making 1/3 what current players do.

You may be content to pay the same prices to watch a sub-par product but I sure wouldn't.  And they aren't pricing themselves out of a job; they aren't asking for more money. They're making sure the don't get screwed out of the money they currently get. And sorry, over the long term, player salaries will never be 1/3 of what they are now.




Since: Oct 29, 2006
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:59 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

A quick preview of the comments compare the players vs the owners and about who will lose.  It's us...the fans....who will lose.  The owners, most have a NFL club as a second form of business...they didn't become owners without the cash in the first place.  The players, if they were smart (yeah, right) have their past payments. Look all around the US, at how people are losing union rights...if they are even in a union.  The NFL wants they players back at the table...and they should get back there.  The players ARE employees,  as are concession workers, ushers, parking attendants, ticket takers...and so on.  THESE people are the big losers in this BS, and you KNOW the players don't give a rat's tush.  I'm a union worker but leaving the table like this is the same as striking to me.  You don't leave the table when the otherside wants to keep going.



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:58 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

Everyone is picking sides?  Why?  Football is entertainment.  The people in Japan and out lying areas have real problems and God bless them.  This is exactly what everyone is saying...it is a game...it is entertainment.  I can find new entertainment.  I could care less if they play or not.  I have bigger things in life to worry about then millionaires and billionaires fighting.  They give me some enjoyment on Sunday but if they don't play...So what!  Maybe when they come back I will watch...Maybe I will have found something to replace it.  I don't care and neither should you.  If you are angry over millionaires fighting billionaires then stop watching and going and give them a taste of your anger.  But like guinea pigs you will come running back and show then exactly what they know...You will always watch and you will always come back so they could care less theur fan base.  They could careless about what you want.  Most of all they could careless about YOU.  So because of that, a very long time ago I decided that the NFL was just something fun to watch but I don't care if they want to fight over who gets 800 milllion dollars...it is a slap in the face to us.



Since: Jun 22, 2008
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:58 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

Because they are the business owners, and the players are employees, and the owners do not have to disclose anything. Nor should they have to.  They pay for everything, including the salaries of the employees that play ball for them.
They have to disclose them if they want the people they are bargaining with to believe their claims about profitability.

They tried to bluff, and were called on it.
The NFLPA did not bluff, this is their best move at this point.


This is what Unions do, price themselves out of a job.
Seriously?  Admit it, you don't know much about Unions aside from a few stories about how a lazy employee had his job saved by a Union.



Since: May 28, 2009
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:57 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

 I am sorry that the players are being as greedy as they are

So you see no greed on the part of the owners.  Remember, Labor creates all wealth!



Since: May 28, 2009
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:54 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

While this is a fascinating story, it has little social relavance.  Real people are being threatened with legislative removal of their collective bargaining rights in fourteen states, as I write this.  Yet, it fails to make the headlines of any major news source.  I understand the amount of money we are talking about is significant, yet the impact on individual families is much smaller.  Folks, we are talking about a source of weekly entertainment.  the real victims in this story are the men and women whose employment is peripheral to the NFL, i.e., vendors, wait staff, security, etc.  I didn't se or hear any mention of those people from any of the parties involved.

Wait, what if they held a season and no one cared.



Since: Jul 23, 2009
Posted on: March 11, 2011 5:53 pm
 

NFLPA officially files decertification paperwork

As a NFL fan i am disgusted with the players and owners.  We as fans need to send a message to these wealthy people(who don't worry about bills) STOP WATCHING AND GOING TO GAMES.  We pay for their salaries.


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