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NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

Posted on: March 24, 2011 6:38 pm
Edited on: March 24, 2011 10:38 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

With the fitting backdrop of the Barry Bonds trial underway in San Francisco, the NFL is going to insist that HGH testing of players become an incorporated part of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.

That bombshell comes from NFL vice president and general counsel Adolpho Birch, who also oversees the NFL's drug testing program. "We want it," Birch told FOXSports.com's Alex Marvez on Thursday. "We think it's necessary. We're going to ensure that it's done.

"That's something very important to us and the integrity of our game. We believe some of the basis for going slowly on it before has been addressed. At this point, it's proper for it to be an active part of our program."

The NFL wanting HGH testing isn't exactly new -- in January of last year, the league requested that testing for the performance-enhancing drug be implemented. But DeMaurice Smith and the NFLPA declined.
NFL Labor

"The NFLPA along with the NFL has supported research to find a suitable test that will detect sustained HGH use," the then-union said in a February 2010 statement. "We have and will continue to work with the NFL to build a system that is fair, reliable and maintains the integrity of our game and the health and safety of our players."

They NFLPA has a valid point in terms of HGH, because there's not necessarily a guaranteed way in which to test for HGH using simply urine samples.

And one of the things that doesn't get mentioned much in all the NFL labor negotiations is that NFL players really don't like the idea of the league getting a hold of blood and urine and whatnot, unless it's a mandated drug test.

If the NFL gets its way, and HGH testing becomes standard, there's a pretty good chance that their concerns over the league holding onto those samples will become real.

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Comments

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: March 25, 2011 4:01 pm
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

AIRFORCE ...... I personally think if they fail the drug tests a suspension is not warranted, I feel a life time ban is.  Any player that takes any form of PED should not be allowed to play ever. Its just a form of cheating to get the pay day you want. Lets have players that do not take PED's out there, the game will be much better and there will be less in the way of players that are so banged up after they retire they have to be supported. There are so many players that had great careers that did not use the PED's so that alone proves they are not needed.



Since: Aug 9, 2009
Posted on: March 25, 2011 2:01 pm
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

What are u even rambling about? Alls were saying is if u start making them take blood test theres gonna be alot more suspensions. But u obviosly work close with the nfl and know more than anyone else. Stick to what your good at, trying to rip apart everyone elses comments with random misguided incoherant rants.



Since: Aug 9, 2009
Posted on: March 25, 2011 1:53 pm
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

I didnt imply anything about the players intelligence. I simply stated that juice is a part of the game. Whether u want to believe, admit it, or see it for yourself. And i could really careless whether u believe what i write. Its a sports column comment, not a court hearing u tool...



Since: May 13, 2009
Posted on: March 25, 2011 1:35 pm
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

so IRREGARDLESS, thanks for taking a decent comment and ruining it by insulting me. what did i do to you?  no, i don't work for or play for the nfl, thank you captain obvious, but don't you see the timing of bringing it up again comes at a time when they, the nfl, could use as much leverage as they can get.  you are also a tool. and short sighted.  now don't let my french fries burn while you're busy making stupid comments on cbs.



Since: Nov 15, 2010
Posted on: March 25, 2011 12:34 pm
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I too couldn't have played or even competed for my position without the  Dianabol that I used while playing college ball in the mid to late 70's. I chose to do whatever it took to play and would probably do it again in spite of injuries that are catching up with me from playing on them. Those 45 Division 1 starts were worth it to me.



Since: Nov 15, 2010
Posted on: March 25, 2011 12:25 pm
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

What hippocrites. The players and owners know that PEDs use is rampant. Look at any player a year or two after retirement and you won't recognize them, especially line and backers.  They still exercise but they look like people not pumped up monsters!



Since: Jul 27, 2010
Posted on: March 25, 2011 11:26 am
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

The NFL has a way to turn a blind eye so to speak. There are far too little cases of players caught using steroids in the NFL. Especiqlly in the fringe players.

There are shakes you can drink, fill up twice with water and chug, then pee 3 times and get clean urine, provided you fast the morning    B4.

Once the blood becomes involved, I think a lot of player could fall off bc they are using PED's currently at no risk, but maybe not 4 long.
The NFLPA has a decent shot at keeping bloood testing out, but it would come at a price.

Both sides are establishing facts that support their claims. IN the end, which ever side has the better facts will ultimately win the favorable deal.


Right now its a toss up. But the premis that the Owners need the players, far outweighs the players needing the owners bc there are plently of billionares to run NFL teams.

Go Bears!



Since: Jul 21, 2008
Posted on: March 25, 2011 11:05 am
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

Neither group really wants HGH Testing right now.  The owners do not want to ask a question that they are fearful of the answer.  The players do not want to ask a question that they know the answer.  Not to mention they cannot agree on number of games and how to split $9 billion, how will they agree on something that the reliability of testing is still subject to debate?  You might can get future HGH testing agreed upon but not today.  Both parties need to worry about playing football first.  Then you can worry about the rest.




Since: Nov 22, 2009
Posted on: March 25, 2011 9:55 am
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

There is a difference between Rhoids and HGH.  One big difference is Rhoids won't do much if the person doesn't do weight training. HGH will work without weight training.



Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: March 25, 2011 9:50 am
 

NFL thinks HGH testing in new deal is 'necessary'

HGH is actually not bad for the human body in proper doses. The problem you have with it is that once you become use to the effect of the proper dose, as with all drugs, you need more to get the same "feeling" or benifit from the drug. Then you have the "unknowns" from the usage of HGH. There are some in the medical testing field that believe that most of the problems players have later in life are caused by the drugs they used in thier playing days. Personally, I have had quite a few problems because of the drugs I took playing football. If it was not for the drugs i took my body would not have been able to perform in some of the games I played in. Being able to play in those games caused more dammage, you just did not feel it, at least not right then. I believe all drugs should be outlawed from all sports, but especially football. Those cort shots they gave me so I could play through the pain have caused total degenerative conditions in my knees, ankles and shoulders. I had a real bad problem with ankle sprains, would twist my ankle and they would shoot it up with cort and send me right back in. I found out one morning I had played a whole game on a broken ankle because I "sprained" it in the first quarter, funny too that was one of my best games stat wise. Playing through ACL and MCL dammage like Drew Brees did is flat out stupid, he was told the dammage could not get any worse if he played, well sure it can not get any worse right now but in 15 to 20 years it sure can, and just how much cort and/or other pain killing drugs did they have to shoot in there so he could play through the pain?? Look at Earl Campbell, he played injured quite a bit and now he can barely walk. Football is a rough sport and if your playing through injuries and taking drugs to help you play your just compounding the problem. Oh and before I hear about how thats the owner and coaches fault, we players make that final decision to play or not, our love of the game makes us play.


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