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Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

Posted on: May 26, 2011 5:48 pm
Edited on: May 26, 2011 6:44 pm
 
Posted by Andy Benoit

As executive director of the NFL Players Association, Gene Upshaw developed what many felt was an extremely cozy relationship with the NFL league office and the owners. His unexpected death in 2008 had a significant impact on the labor negotiations.

Saints quarterback Drew Brees thinks the owners used it as an oD. Brees (US Presswire)pportunity to gain leverage on the players.

"Ever since Gene Upshaw passed away -- I'm just going to lay it all out there -- the owners saw blood in the water," Brees told Sports Illustrated’s Jim Trotter. "They felt like, 'This is our opportunity to take a significant piece of the [financial] pie back at all costs, a piece that we will never have to give back again. This is our chance, while they don't have leadership, while they're scrambling to find a new executive director. This is our time.'

"I can point to about five different things to prove to you that they were ready to lock us out. They opted out of the last year of the [CBA] deal; they hired Bob Batterman [who oversaw a lockout of NHL players]. They tried to take the American Needle case to the Supreme Court to basically give them an antitrust exemption or single-entity status but were defeated 9-0; they established new TV deals to pay them in the event of a lockout, but we were able to put a freeze on that money because they did not negotiate in good faith and broke the law. And they had an internal NFL document that was leaked -- a decision tree -- that said smack dab in the middle of it 'financial needs in a lockout.' That was in 2008, OK? So you're telling me that they had no plans to lock us out and really wanted to get a deal done? I don't think so."

He went on.

"Their philosophy was, We're going to give you a very subpar deal, a slap-in-the-face deal, and hope that you'll accept it because hopefully we've intimidated you enough into thinking that this is a take-it-or-leave-it deal, and you're just going to succumb to the pressure," he said. "Well, guess what. We're a lot more informed and educated than in the past, and we're much better businessmen than you think and we're going to stand up for what is right and what is fair. Fifty-fifty is fair. It's been fair for the last 20 years and I think the game has done pretty well over the last 20 years. I think franchise values have gone up at a pretty good rate over the last 20 years. So you can't sit here and tell me that the system is broken."

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 4:39 pm
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

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Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: June 1, 2011 4:41 pm
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

Brees doesn't have an effing clue what is fair. Informed more than the past, sure. Greedy more than the past.. absolutely



Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: May 27, 2011 12:12 pm
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

Mje037 Wrote:  
You want a credible argument?  How about this.  Brees says that a 50/50 split of profit is "fair".  How about any of us walk into our owner's office today and demand 50% of the company's profit.  How do yoiu think that would go over?  You'd be locked out/fired before you could finish your sentence.


HOW about this is a ridiculous argument that IGNORES only EVERY SINGLE ISSUE about the FRAMEWORK of A SPORTS LEAGUE, what it does, and how the money is generated.

But to even follow up on the ridiculous argument, I'll proffer an example just to SHOW how Ridiculous it is.
IF I worked as a Lawyer for a firm and was the best Lawyer at a Firm that had 10 Lawyers and had the NAME that brought any clients to said Firm..>YES  I &nb
sp; COULD walk into the OWNERS OFFICE and say! :

"I want 85% of all the Revenue I bring in or I think I'll go to Firm B and YOU won't have a viable Firm."

The Owner could disagree and I could WALK!  Does this fact elude you Mje?      
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BUT!  I could go get another Job with another Firm or start my own Firm.


The NFL is a Monoply with an Anti-Trust exemption that prevents such a move.  Does this fact elude you Mje?  


This is the just of what the Anti-Trust suit is about by the Players. 

IF THE NFL does not want to deal FAIRLY in a way that has made the league GROW in UNTOLD WAYS in the HISTORY of SPORTS LEAGUES, then perhaps we no longer need a CBA.  Let ME se
ll my wares to the highest bidder on the Open Market.


SEEMS YOU  Mje are a Communist and HATE the "FREE MARKET"      
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Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: May 27, 2011 7:13 am
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water




You want a credible argument?  How about this.  Brees says that a 50/50 split of profit is "fair".  How about any of us walk into our owner's office today and demand 50% of the company's profit.  How do yoiu think that would go over?  You'd be locked out/fired before you could finish your sentence. 



Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: May 26, 2011 8:50 pm
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

MSU - I agree with you totally.  But WORSE.....the "PIE" you speak of, as done NOTHING but GROW and GROW and GROW and GROW over the last 20 years.   The NFL has been BULLET PROOF.  Even during the 2nd Worst Recession in WORLD HISTORY just 2 years ago, the NFL grew over 8%!   US GDP for that quarter was a -6.8.  The Avg that year was -1.9.  


Just a Note: During that same time, Jerry Jones who bought the Dallas Cowboys for 140 million 20 years ago with a Stadium attached now has a 1.2 Billion dollar stadium that over 2 years he only has his  1.85 Billion dollar team leveraged at 20% and he STILL made 160 million last year.


Seems to me the owners who are not making money ( Mr Ross in Miami says he lost 2.2 million ) need to pay Jerry Jones some consulting fees.  



Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: May 26, 2011 8:43 pm
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

Notice this....everyone reading this Thread:  

NO ONE ( Mostly those on the Right who support the Owners ) can make ANY CREDIBLE ARGUMENT AGAINST WHAT BREEZE HAD TO SAY.

People post their little shots at the players because most Americans especially on the RIGHT suffer from "Joe the Plumber Syndrome."  They would far rather identify with a Billionare business owner and dismiss the Players ( in their minds undeserving minorities ) as know-nothings oversteping their bounds.  

The Bottom Line here is this.  The Owners are unwilling to "SHOW" why the Players should take any cut at all because there is no reason other than the Owners want them to.   And in a Deal with a Union all set up by the Government for the League to have an Anti-Trust Exemption on Labor Issues, that's now how its supposed to work. 

Fair should be what "WE" think is Fair....not what "YOU" can FORCE me to TAKE. 

The Result: If you want to FORCE me into a deal I don't think is fair and "STOP THE GAME" to get it.....then lets don't do business as UNION / LEAGUE; why don't YOU and WE deal with this in a "FREE MARKET" approach.   

THE NFL Does not want that, and the players really don't either. But if its COWTOW to you on whatever you say, or let the market decide what I'm worth, I TAKE THE MARKET.   That is what the players have decided.       
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Since: Sep 13, 2008
Posted on: May 26, 2011 6:47 pm
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

I don't think that these players need to make a ton more money for playing a game.  That being said, these owners are just like any other big business and need to look at the actual workers point of view.  I know that will never happen because the elite of the world think they are just that "elite", and above everyone else.  They need to be brought down a peg or five.  They are the ones ruining the NFL, not the players.  The players are doing what is right.  If the owners weren't so damn greedy, this would've been done a long time ago and we'd all be watching practices and mini-camps right about now.  We'd be sitting here waiting for the teams to sign their first round picks.  We'd be watching contract negotiations between our teams and some of the hottest free agents.  We'd be seeing who is going to help our team out and giving our speculation on who we think they should get.  This hurts.  It hurts the players, but mostly it hurts the fans.  Most owners don't care about that, they just want a bigger piece of the pie.Yell



Since: Apr 2, 2008
Posted on: May 26, 2011 6:41 pm
 

Brees on Upshaw death: Owners saw blood in water

Andy...last I checked there were 32 teams in the NFL.
There are 32 teams, but the Packers are a publicly traded company, so that's why he said 31 owners.  Unless he was close with all 100,000+ owners of the Packers, 31 is correct.


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