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Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Posted on: May 27, 2011 9:38 am
Edited on: May 27, 2011 10:41 am
GoodellPosted by Josh Katzowitz

As an outside observer, it seems that hardly anybody wants the NFL to move to an 18-game schedule. With the exception of 33 people – the 32 owners, plus commissioner Roger Goodell – it comes across to me that people are cool with the 16 games.

Yet Goodell, according to the (Nashville) Tennessean, continues to use the line that fans just can’t stop shivering in anticipation of two extra games.

“We do think it is attractive to season-ticket holders. I hear that all of the time from our season-ticket holders,” Goodell said on a conference call with Titans season ticket holders. "We have not abandoned our position on that. We do think it is the right thing for the game. It improves the quality of what we do, and it improves the value for you as season-ticket holders. … We do think it is a benefit for everybody, but we want to do it the right way, and we want to do it responsibly. That includes the players’ perspective.”

Hardly anybody likes the preseason schedule and yeah, I can see why Goodell thinks it’s in the fans' best interests to give them more real games for the money they’re spending on season ticket packages.

But I just don’t get the sense the fans are all that keen on the idea (and we KNOW that the players don’t want it), mostly due to injury concerns.

Yet, Goodell just won’t stop, and it's getting laughable.

But here’s the thing, and Yahoo! Sports’ Doug Farrar points it out: Goodell has participated in 19 conference calls like this, and after reading transcripts of the talks, hardly any fan has mentioned wanting what Goodell says the fans want.

And here’s what I don’t understand. The 18-game schedule is off the table for these labor negotiations, so why is Goodell STILL talking about it? Especially when it seems somewhat clear that the fans aren’t all that interested in the idea.

Labor News
I took an unscientific Twitter poll this morning to gauge the fans’ reaction to the idea of adding two more games, and here are my results: 83.9 percent of the respondents said they like the 16-game format fine, thanks very much (psst, I guess they must not be season ticket holders, right?).

Here are a few of their responses:

From @L7Panda: “NO to an 18 game season, just like the previous polls had said, 80% of fans do NOT want an 18 game season. NO NO NO NO NO.”

From @CJ_Camisa: "Yes!!!! As a Packer fan I want even more of my players to miss time to injuries!!! They don't take enough hits!" #sissies

From @Preine_PtR: "As a Browns fan, I'm usually begging for the season to be over with by week 5."

From @manicsocratic: "18 game schedule is fine. Make it fair to the players and change regulation to 48 minutes though."

So, that seems pretty clear to me. Fans don’t want it, and season ticket-holders don’t want it. I just wish Goodell would stop pronouncing it like it’s some kind of fact.

By the way, you can check out the labor timeline and the labor issues of the day. You know, in case you need a refresher.

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Since: Apr 25, 2007
Posted on: May 30, 2011 12:36 pm

Goodell is a fool

NO, I don't want 18 games. I want the 16 game season. I am fine with pre-season games BUT don't charge for them as if they were normal games - clear display of owner/league greed. What I want is for you to stop telling me what I want.

Since: May 2, 2008
Posted on: May 30, 2011 12:35 pm

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Mr Goodell,

We do not want an 18-game season.

Thank you

Since: Apr 12, 2011
Posted on: May 30, 2011 9:27 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

If the owners want to make more money, why haven't they just added more seats to all of the new stadiums they have built. Case in point is in Pittsburgh. When Heinz Field was built, they narrow mindedly stopped at 65k seats.  With a season ticket waiting list of what must be close to 20 years now, the Rooney's could have easily constructed a stadium that would hold 85k, 90k or even 100k seats.  At at least 5k per seat license plus all of the ticket revenue they could easily have made more money and kept the product at an acceptable level instead of diluting the game by going to 18 games.  No one can tell me that the seats wouldn't be filled as college teams regularly fill 100k+ in the larger programs.  The Pro game could easily support the larger stadiums.  Problem solved with generating more revenue.  For the teams that stink and can't fill the stadiums, they obviously have bigger issues.  Playing 18 games wouldn't make it any better if they can't put a good product on the field.   Keep it at 16 games and get it settled...I'm getting fed up with it.

Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: May 30, 2011 9:16 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

You are absolutely right but forgot to mention that Smith is just as bad if not worse for the players. He just wants to make a name for himself and get the players total control over a game they have very lttle skin in.

Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: May 30, 2011 8:21 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Goodell is the worst steward of the NFL we could have.  He cares about raising double digit profits for the league as fast as possible and not growing the NFL for long term.  He'd rather make a little extra money now for the league and dilute the product because he's a greedy, narrow minded jackass just like congress and hospital directors.


Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: May 30, 2011 6:27 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Here's another "fan" who doesn't want 18 games, even if it takes two of the exhibition games off the table.  Football is not baseball, is not hockey, is not basketball.  We don't need to be filling the record books with asterisks AGAIN.  For the most part, the NFL is a year round enterprise as it is.  The current seventeen weeks, plus pre-season and post-season play are enough.  Leave it alone.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: May 30, 2011 3:27 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

The Fact is, 18Game schedule is something that the Owners want in order to make more money and Goodell totally and completely represent the views of the Owners and what they Want Not Need. So Goodell nor the Owners could careless what the Fans views are they want what they want and will get what they want regardless. The Owners along with Goodell is waging War on Players and Fans telling us All that if they don't get their way No One will benefit from what they OWN. This fight is beyond just the Players it is a Fight to dictate how they will Cheat the Fans as well. I hope the Players can realize how Big this is for them and Players and Fans in the Future and Hold their Ground regardless of how long it takes. Even if the NFL have to go under. 

Since: Jan 31, 2011
Posted on: May 30, 2011 1:24 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

how about no 18 games and umm.. end the lockout.

Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: May 30, 2011 1:02 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Hey trojan man 1882...there is always one like you who just can't help but take a shot at southern folk and republicans in a non-political issue...what does 18 games have to do with gay marriage and burning the Quran? You need to get your priorities right. Maybe your world view is so narrow that you can't distinguish the difference because of your bigotted stereotyping. From reading your post, I would not say you are one to be bragging about intellect. You just sound like an angry northeastern liberal (since you prefer to wallow in stereotypes) the way, I am not even a true southerner, I was born in the north. So, sorry you can't use that against me.....

Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: May 30, 2011 12:52 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Looks like Goodell is gonna try to push his way into this 18 game schedule, come hell or high water. He isn't mentioning all the fans that don't want 18 games...he is only talking about the ones who do want it. We all know it is about increasing revenue. Even with two more games, there will still be steady increases of ticket prices. Most common sense fans don't want to sit through 2 more weeks of mostly meaningless football games at the end of the season. Once some star players start getting hurt during those last two weeks, then they will have no right to cry about injury rates. Big deal, the pre-season is four games. Baseball has about 30 games for crying-out-loud. More football doesn't necessarily mean better football. If you need 18 games, tune in the Canadian Football League and get your fix. 

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