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Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Posted on: May 27, 2011 9:38 am
Edited on: May 27, 2011 10:41 am
GoodellPosted by Josh Katzowitz

As an outside observer, it seems that hardly anybody wants the NFL to move to an 18-game schedule. With the exception of 33 people – the 32 owners, plus commissioner Roger Goodell – it comes across to me that people are cool with the 16 games.

Yet Goodell, according to the (Nashville) Tennessean, continues to use the line that fans just can’t stop shivering in anticipation of two extra games.

“We do think it is attractive to season-ticket holders. I hear that all of the time from our season-ticket holders,” Goodell said on a conference call with Titans season ticket holders. "We have not abandoned our position on that. We do think it is the right thing for the game. It improves the quality of what we do, and it improves the value for you as season-ticket holders. … We do think it is a benefit for everybody, but we want to do it the right way, and we want to do it responsibly. That includes the players’ perspective.”

Hardly anybody likes the preseason schedule and yeah, I can see why Goodell thinks it’s in the fans' best interests to give them more real games for the money they’re spending on season ticket packages.

But I just don’t get the sense the fans are all that keen on the idea (and we KNOW that the players don’t want it), mostly due to injury concerns.

Yet, Goodell just won’t stop, and it's getting laughable.

But here’s the thing, and Yahoo! Sports’ Doug Farrar points it out: Goodell has participated in 19 conference calls like this, and after reading transcripts of the talks, hardly any fan has mentioned wanting what Goodell says the fans want.

And here’s what I don’t understand. The 18-game schedule is off the table for these labor negotiations, so why is Goodell STILL talking about it? Especially when it seems somewhat clear that the fans aren’t all that interested in the idea.

Labor News
I took an unscientific Twitter poll this morning to gauge the fans’ reaction to the idea of adding two more games, and here are my results: 83.9 percent of the respondents said they like the 16-game format fine, thanks very much (psst, I guess they must not be season ticket holders, right?).

Here are a few of their responses:

From @L7Panda: “NO to an 18 game season, just like the previous polls had said, 80% of fans do NOT want an 18 game season. NO NO NO NO NO.”

From @CJ_Camisa: "Yes!!!! As a Packer fan I want even more of my players to miss time to injuries!!! They don't take enough hits!" #sissies

From @Preine_PtR: "As a Browns fan, I'm usually begging for the season to be over with by week 5."

From @manicsocratic: "18 game schedule is fine. Make it fair to the players and change regulation to 48 minutes though."

So, that seems pretty clear to me. Fans don’t want it, and season ticket-holders don’t want it. I just wish Goodell would stop pronouncing it like it’s some kind of fact.

By the way, you can check out the labor timeline and the labor issues of the day. You know, in case you need a refresher.

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Since: Feb 13, 2010
Posted on: May 29, 2011 3:53 pm

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Get ready for your season tickets to go up to $350 because now "the NFL product is better" thing will be four more teams that are wildcards and make the playoffs...Tickets are now at $500...everyone is touting a better NFL product when really they have achieved parity equalling "T-Ball" where everyone gets a trophy...give your tickets to a business interest and write them off as an expense/donation.
I also think you are getting screwed paying $290 a seat .  Good Luck to your team!

Since: May 29, 2011
Posted on: May 29, 2011 3:52 pm

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Rodger couldn't have said that, could he? This man hasn't got a clue. I have been following football since before the merger. And from my perspective, Mr. Goodell is hands down the worst thing that ever happened to the NFL. He is ruining the game from every possible angle. Not having the sagacity or intestinal fortitude to avoid a lockout, ludicrous rule changes to special teams, stupid changes for 'safety' sake, while pushing for MORE games, a continued push for the NFL overseas, (which will never work!) and the intrusiveness into players ain't the police Roger...or is it Rodger? Yeah, he knows what the fans wants like Mel Gibson knows compassion. I know Al Sharpton and Rush Limbaugh like lunch. But, they just ain't having it together. The fans want football. Undiluted and unpolluted, and they want it now. Plus a new commissioner.

Since: Jul 19, 2007
Posted on: May 29, 2011 2:46 pm

Season Ticket Holders are getting SCREWED !!!

Yes for an 18 game season......I'm paying full price for watered down pre-season games.  Season ticket holders are getting screwed.  I don't care to hear the opinion of someone who doesn't pull money out of their pockets to support the game.  Either go to half price tickets or don't make it mandatory for season ticket holders to purchase tickets to pre-season games.  Let the casual fans pay for those games.  

Either cut the price in half or make those games count.  Use your bench to get your team through the 18 game season.  These players get paid a premium so i don't care what the players think.  They're lucky to make the money they make for playing a game.  95% of the country will work a lifetime to generate the money these guys make in a few years.  Stop whining and play football.  

Stop screwing season ticket holders.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: May 29, 2011 2:36 pm

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Who is this clown speaking with about an 18 game schedule. Oh yeah the season ticket holders.

When the teams started charging season ticket holders for pre-season games, I decided that holding season tickets were not all it was cracked up to be. 4 games that don’t count.

The preseason, at one time were free to all that wanted to see the game. We, at one time, coached had a community football team that was composed of mostly under privileged boys and girls of the pep squad. We took them to at least one preseason game each year when the Rams were in Los Angeles and finally Anaheim.

A lot of the kids got a chance to see their football heroes in person and on occasion got an autograph as well as a few words.

The parents had to pay for bus transportation as well as insurance and a snack. All this was about $10.00-$15.00 and the kids had about a 2  hour look at a great stadium get away from their surroundings.

All that came to a stop, upon learning the kids had to pay. The parents did not have sufficient funds for the bus transportation as well as a $25 or $35.00 ticket. Some parents had 2 or more kids in the football program.

My family and I decide that we did not want to pay for preseason games at around that time. Football became less important to me at that point.

Had other fans decided the same thing the pre-season games would still be free. I guess they had to have their football fix.

Even friends of mine that still have season tickets are not in favor of an eighteen game schedule.  

It means more meaningless games as coaches are gonna sit the starters once they have locked the playoffs. So now instead of 2 games we will have 4 games of meaningless games on TV.

This will also reduce revenue as the fans would not go see a game where the home team has locked a playoff spot but the next opponent does not have a winning record.


Since: May 29, 2011
Posted on: May 29, 2011 1:44 pm

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

what the commisioner really said is "the owner want more more money from us fan" with the current 16 games, teams start to rest their starter in week 15 regardless they making a playoff or not.. so i dont think us fan want to have 2 more meaningless games mr commissioner.

Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: May 29, 2011 11:27 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

I was a season ticket holder and I wanted either 18 regular season games or preseason tickets prices that were $50 instead of the $290 a seat I was paying.  Fix one or the other, I didn't care which.  We sold our PSL in February so I could care less what they do now!

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: May 29, 2011 11:21 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Really Goodell, I dont want an 18 game season.  I guess you can put words in the fans mouth in order to try and push your agenda of generating more TV revenue placing through licensing, directv and ads.  F you

I dont want an 18 game season.   And one other thing Why is TAMPA playing in LONDON  AGAIN>...thats crap right there,  They are getting hosed again by having to go over the pond

Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: May 29, 2011 10:53 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

What STH want is a discount on preseason games. I think coaches need 4 games to evaluate 80 players or whatever it is but, I don't think I should be paying the same amount to watch players that won't make the team as I do the finished prodouct.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: May 29, 2011 10:13 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

I started a poll to on the Green Bay Packers message board to settle this thing for once and for all by vote. I am asking you folks to participate and give your reasons why you voted. A vote does this way more justice than a blog where you never really know the results. Won't tell you how I voted just come and give your two cents.

Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: May 29, 2011 9:57 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Dont ya just love it when somebody is telling you what YOU want? LOL
I want a new commish

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