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Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

Posted on: June 1, 2011 9:05 am
Edited on: June 1, 2011 10:07 am
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Posted by Ryan Wilson

Warrick Dunn played 12 NFL seasons and by the time he retired in 2008, he had rushed for nearly 11,000 yards and 64 touchdowns. But Dunn is probably better known for his contributions off the field, specifically the Warrick Dunn Family Foundation which, according to the website, is "dedicated to providing opportunities for economically disadvantaged single parents and children who have demonstrated a commitment to achieve financial independence and stability." Essentially, Dunn helps families become homeowners.

But last week police stopped Dunn outside Atlanta because the window tinting on his automobile was too dark. Dunn was also told that he fit the description of a criminal.

On Friday, Dunn wrote about the incident on Facebook.

"Pulled over outside Atl because he said my window tint was too dark. During the stop he asked a lot of personal questions, said I had the characteristics of people transporting drugs & guns. So he searched my car and gave me a warning for my tint. Felt violated and I've had my car since '08, nvr been pulled ovr for tint. Taken back bc I think the reasoning was bad. Ruined my day but not my spirit."

He also tweeted that, "Funny thing is you can see inside bc my tint is not dark. It was cloudy and 5-0 was 20 yards behind at an angle."

According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, a spokesman for the Georgia state patrol didn't have any information on the incident, and Dunn couldn't be reached for comment.

Three weeks ago, former NFL quarterback Kordell Stewart was arrested in Alpharetta, Georgia for driving with a suspended license due to an outdated traffic ticket for tinted windows.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 12:28 pm
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows



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Since: Dec 2, 2011
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Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: June 3, 2011 3:06 pm
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

Nice of you to imply that I am a racist because I generalized one of my statements about the mainstream profile of the black community.  When rap artists glorify the use of guns and f- the police, glamorizing that I gotta get mine, no matter what; then people go and buy, download and ultimately "accept" said artists as positive and influential role models for their hate-filled rants, then yes it is accepted and promoted.  No matter how much good or charity work or positive contributions these artists make on the back end, what made them famous is their art.

As far as "starting over", I don't remember being a 1st grader who knew any other 1st graders that were ex-cons, pretty sure people choose to commit crime, not some sort of mandatory task for anyone in this country.  I didn't have computers in my school, minus the one in the town's public library and my textbooks were from the early 70's (started school in the mid 80's).  There was no job training at my schools, we actually went out and got jobs doing things like bagging groceries (I am assuming there is a grocery store or some similar form of local business in your hypothetical world).  My parents started out in very low-end jobs and (with hard work) worked their way up in their respective businesses, and now they are doing fairly well for themselves (not the case when I was growing up).

The assumption of equality of opportunity was never made.  The assumption that people either choose to work hard and improve their status or "give up" because the work required is either "too difficult" or believed to be "beneath them".  No, not every kid is going to go from rags to riches, but at some point the cycle of kids growing up in tougher communities have to choose to stop taking the "easy path" to money and make an effort to get said education and improve their situation.  Despite your grim outlook on what sounds like your "typical urban environment" there are numerous opportunities for kids of all races.  They still have to work to get those opportunities, but they do exist.  Ultimately, you are right, the environment and community does have an effect on how we all grow up, but even in the most desolate of communities, people know right from wrong and should expect consequences for their actions, whether they are good or bad.  

Throw in some back-handed wise crack here, I don't agree with you and you don't agree with me, blah, blah, blah.  I think it's safe to say that the majority of people who are arrested or incarcerated are deserved of that situation.  Feel free to label me whatever you want, being one color or another doesn't mean you are destined for prison or millions of dollars, despite what you may think.  It may not be as simple as hard work = rewards, nothing in this world is that simple anymore, but it's pretty close. 



Since: Apr 12, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2011 11:18 pm
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

Note to Warrick...it is illegal to place tint on any of your forward windows (windshield, driver and passenger front windows) no matter how dark the tint.  If you ask any police officer, they hate pulling over vehicles with tinted windows because they can not tell who is inside the car.  By the way the traffic stop is the most dangerous thing a police officer does.  I am sure officers are much more at ease when they have a clear view of the interior and its occupants.  Come on Warrick, just remove the tint and be a good sport.


Note to LAShowtime, tinting laws are different in every state, so you are talking out of your posterior.  Here is Georgia law on tinting internet police officer.Cool

Windshield Non-reflective tint is allowed on the top 6 inches of the windshield. Front Side Windows Must allow more than 32% of light in. Back Side Windows Must allow more than 32% of light in. Rear Window Must allow more than 32% of light in.




Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: June 2, 2011 7:29 pm
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

What I think you are missing out on here is that not everyone in this country feels any sort of animosity towards one race or another.  Your post, AGAIN, took specific facts from broad discussions to impress upon everyone that racism is rampant in the country today, which it isn't.  It does exist, but not at the epidemic level you seem to think it does. 
Au contraire. I am not one of those people who finds what they're looking for no matter how hard they have to look. You are eggagerating my claims and arguments. I postd because I was tired of seeing people act like racism doesn't exist. Obviously, you responded because you felt I was somehow saying that behind every tree, there was a Klansman. That was not the case or the point at all.

Secondly, I think you and I are starting from differing ideas on what racism is. You seem to proceed from the assumption that racism means overt bigotry, oppression, and namecalling. There are subtler forms. I reject your characterization of specific facts as being taken out of the context of broader disicussions; the specific facts are there as indicators, guideposts if you will. I will gladly deluge you with all the statistical data in the world, but you know perfectly well what these indicators mean.

As far as the black community being "targeted", I don't see it.
Maybe I spoke too soon. You don't see it? Then you are not paying attention. And this:

What I do see is that people who are lazy and unmotivated don't get anything and start asking why someone else (a.k.a., the government) isn't taking care of them.  I didn't come from the slums of an inner-city, but I also didn't come from a wealthy family.  What I did come from is an environment that promoted hard work = rewards.  If you come from a world where your parents wait for the government to hand over a check because they think they have earned it for living in America, then those children are going to do the same thing.  Capitalism, which this country is founded on, is ruled by the people that go out and do, not those that sit back and wait for handouts.
...explains a lot. Where did lazy and unmotivated come from? When did we starts assigning specific traits to the people we're talking about? And the sad, worn-out canard of the gimmie group is scrap-heap political hackery of the worst sort. This imagined slice of America doesn't exist. Ronald Reagan's "welfare queen" is a myth, and this has also been proven again and again.

I no longer wonder at your blind spot. Hard work = rewards. Right. Go ahead and start over, but under the following conditions: You must every third day wear a big, red "C" for criminal on your forehead. Your schools may not have computers, textbooks more current than the 80's, or a teacher-to-student ratio of better than 1 in 50. You may not participate in any extracurricular activities or jobs training programs - there are none in your schools. No person in your family during your formative years may have a job worth more than 10% over minimum wage, and all of them must have been raised in the same conditions as you, perpetuating a cycle of poverty, lack of education, and lack of opportunity. Your neighborhood must not be patrolled by the police, allowing your neighbors to prey upon you and your family with impunity. You get the idea, I trust.

The assumption of equality of opportunity is false. People do not start from the same place, with the same conditions and opportunities. Yet, you continue to insist that those who are less fortunate than you are that way because of some personal failing? You suppose they are lazy and want a handout? Pathetic.

And by the way, this country was not founded on "capitalism". It was founded on secular rule of law. One is economic; the other is not. Modern "capitalism" (which is really state-protected welfare/socialism for the business class) didn't show up until the 1800's, and then only through the courts. The executive and legislative branches often fought what you call "capitalism".

How about explaining to us why a race of people so readily promote and accept a culture of violence and disrespect toward authority figures.
Gladly. First, because those authority figures have an unfortunate history of sh**ting all over them, there is a lack of respect. We've had segregationists in Congress as late as 2003, and you're pretending people have no reason to disrespect "authority figures"?

This "culture of violence" meme is an attempt to pin violence on minorities as some sort of inherent social institution. It's crap. Right up there with your erroneous assumption that a "race of people" "accept and promote" it. Nice. All black people accept and promote a "culture of violence"? And you have the gall to argue that my view racism is overblown? Do you even listen to yourself?

Actually, that about does it. When you say that all black people accept and promote violence, you've pretty much tipped your hand. I'm done wasting words on an ignorant hypocrite.



Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: June 2, 2011 6:29 pm
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

lotusmaglite-

Nowhere in my post did I say, or for that matter, did anyone say that there wasn't racism in this country.  What I think you are missing out on here is that not everyone in this country feels any sort of animosity towards one race or another.  Your post, AGAIN, took specific facts from broad discussions to impress upon everyone that racism is rampant in the country today, which it isn't.  It does exist, but not at the epidemic level you seem to think it does. 

As far as the black community being "targeted", I don't see it.  What I do see is that people who are lazy and unmotivated don't get anything and start asking why someone else (a.k.a., the government) isn't taking care of them.  I didn't come from the slums of an inner-city, but I also didn't come from a wealthy family.  What I did come from is an environment that promoted hard work = rewards.  If you come from a world where your parents wait for the government to hand over a check because they think they have earned it for living in America, then those children are going to do the same thing.  Capitalism, which this country is founded on, is ruled by the people that go out and do, not those that sit back and wait for handouts.

How about explaining to us why a race of people so readily promote and accept a culture of violence and disrespect toward authority figures.  I fully understand what is being discussed, I also understand that your obtuse view of the subject prevents you from seeing that racism isn't the major reason for a disproportionate amount of black people being incarcerated.  Feel free to lighten up on the racism kick a little and try to see that each race is different in their views, customs and cultures, which has more of an affect on a person's upbringing than you are willing to acknowledge.




Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: June 2, 2011 4:53 am
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

Whites still make up over 72% of the country (census), and seeing that they are spread out over the entire country, very much unlike the minorities of the country, their incarceration rates are significantly lower. 

Feel free to research ALL the facts, not just the ones that make your point because you disagree with someone else. 
Heed your own advice. Your numbers only strengthen my case, which you seemed to think was something entirely different. You think it's a coincidence that minorities "congregate"? That the districts in which they live get economically starved, with funding funneled to affluent neighborhoods that don't need the subsdies? And then people wonder why crime is more prevalent in the inner city.

It's so obvious that it's actually a well-known practice by private power to take over state and federal projects and services. Step One: bankroll politicians who will vote to defund the state/federal program. Step Two: wait for the program to fail due to lack of funding. Step Three: pay for tons of PR arguing that the program/service failed because government can't handle the job. Step Four: take over the now-privatized program/service and reap astronomical rewards.

The same thing happens in these "congregations" (which are almost always the remnants of neighborhoods from which whites have fled). Funding goes away, the infrastructure falls apart, and damned if criminals don't take up residence, acting as de facto feudal lords, and so on.

This would be the point, which you either missed completely or pretended didn't exist: Racism exists, is still prevalent, institutionalized, and systematic. The people who argue that since they got hassled by the cops once, all ethnicities are treated equally ignore so much blatant evidence that it beggars belief. Your comment ignored this and went on with some imagined debate on the interpretation of statistical data.

So feel free to ask questions if you don't understand what is being discussed, and don't just jump into the middle of an argument wielding a lack of comprehension and a frankly hilarious attempt to mischaracterize and misapply the findings of a paper that literally says, "Consistent with a variety of theoretical perspectives, the racial and economic composition factor, the household structure factor, and percent foreign born positively affect violent and property crime rates." Which, as I've explained, was kind of my point.



Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2011 12:51 am
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

Holy Cow!  Me too.  Mine were not tinted and I had to get a note from Nissan (The car and interior were Black) certifying that the windows were factory equipment only.      

 Dunn was also told that he fit the description of a criminal. 
Who doesn't?  Watch Criminal Minds on CBS.  Wink



Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: June 1, 2011 11:03 pm
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

lotusmaglite-

Your facts are a bit skewed here, not saying that irregardless is correct by completely ignoring the disparity, but your numbers are taken out of context.  Take into account that black population largely congregates into urbanized areas (nearly 70% live in cities with a population over 500,000 people).  Add that to the fact that crime rates in cities that large is much larger than cities of populations below 500,000.  In fact it is nearly triple in larger cities.  Add that to the fact that education in larger cities is not as effective as in smaller suburbs or towns (which leads to higher crime rates), along with a 1000 other factors.

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chamlin.pdf</cite>

The paper that the link goes to states that the larger number of crimes is majoritvely linked to size of city, not due to race.  The simple fact that an overwhelming percentage of the black populus lives in large cities, you are going to get a higher percentage of the black population in prison. 

Whites still make up over 72% of the country (census), and seeing that they are spread out over the entire country, very much unlike the minorities of the country, their incarceration rates are significantly lower. 

Feel free to research ALL the facts, not just the ones that make your point because you disagree with someone else. 



Since: Jan 1, 2008
Posted on: June 1, 2011 9:38 pm
 

Warrick Dunn stopped by police for tinted windows

Ok, final question: Where did this story go? It's no longer in the headlines and I can't find it w/o going to my profile page!


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