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Vikings, Bills disagree with NFLCA's amicus brief

Posted on: June 3, 2011 5:54 pm
Edited on: June 3, 2011 6:28 pm
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FrazierPosted by Josh Katzowitz

At some point, I just know we’re going to find a group of coaches who actually agrees with the NFL Coaches Association’s amicus brief to the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals.

It hasn't happened yet, though, as the Vikings and the Bills have weighed in on the matter, throwing their support to the owners in this lockout battle.

The brief cited numerous issues that would harm the league’s coaches if the lockout continued. (The brief also made the statement that owners demanded a provision in the coaches’ contracts that would allow the team to withhold part of the coaches’ salaries in the event of a lockout.)

The Redskins coaches didn’t agree with the NFLCA. Neither did the Saints coaches, who said they were appalled by the brief. The staffs of the Eagles, Cowboys, Jaguars, Texans and Chiefs also threw their non-support behind the brief.

Now, there’s word that the Bills have the owners' back (per the Buffalo News, via Pro Football Talk) while Vikings coach Leslie Frazier told ESPN 1500 that his staff wasn’t even asked its opinion about the brief before it was filed.

From Bills offensive coordinator Curtis Modkins: “Our entire staff had no prior knowledge, nor were we consulted that the amicus brief was being filed on behalf of the coaches. We support Mr. (Ralph) Wilson.”

Frazier, meanwhile, was asked about his reaction when he heard about the brief: “Surprised. Just wondering how that came about and wondering why our team wasn't contacted. I wondered ... just how many teams were contacted. But just really, in a lot of ways, it doesn't pertain to us because we had no say in it as a staff."

So, that’s at least seven teams that have come out against the brief, and I don’t see anybody who's currently working in the league who will announce their support for the NFLCA's brief anytime soon. Which makes you wonder. Who does the NFLCA actually represent in this matter? Because it certainly doesn't seem to be the coaches.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 2:53 pm
 

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Since: Oct 19, 2007
Posted on: June 5, 2011 10:20 pm
 

Vikings, Bills disagree with NFLCA's amicus brief

you are the dumb one because you believe everything you hear on fox news and rush oxycontin limbaugh. I never said their wages were made possible by unions I meant that the amounts that people are paid are higher. I guess I need to spell it out for you because you right wingers and tea party idiots cant think for yourselves. before you start calling people dumb why dont you do nsome research and start with the Davis Bacon act and then get back to me on how even non union pay scales for all non private work is the same as union scale meaning their pay is higher do to unions numb nuts. Maybe you should call sean hannity and ask him if your allowed first though?





Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: June 5, 2011 11:32 am
 

Vikings, Bills disagree with NFLCA's amicus brief

These Big Government loving, Big Spending, Science-hating, education attacking, Deficit creating, Birther, WMD lying, Swift Boat inventing Party of No members never cease to amaze and amuse me with their ability to parrot pill-heads and felons on talk radio despite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but their hatred of facts, reason, evidence, and logic in favor of emotion, hate, and anger is of course what makes them Republicans.  It is amazing how similar in their hatreds they are to Islamic Fundamentalists - the only difference is the language they speak because they certainly say the same things.  For example, Nichols and McVeigh, GOP heros, are just like the 9/11 terrorists.  BGoth militaary, both hate freedom, both hate tolerance, and both hate edcuation.
Very nice representation of the Democrat party now let's remember in 2012!!


Your response is funny as hell hahaha libtards never let me down.

Can't wait until you blame Weinergate on Bush.



Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: June 5, 2011 8:56 am
 

Skreffty-You must be speaking of Socialcrats

Your comments are so moronic they are laughable. Socialcrats use no facts,just scare tactics like seniors will eat dog food or coal dust causes asthma-Odumba's words. You must have been educated by union teachers who have FAILED America parents and kids. You cannot spell,type or write. Socialcrat heroes are Clinton, Edwards and Wienie boy from NY who now are known as the new 3 Stooges-can't keep it in their pants. Why states are busting unions! Worthless!



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: June 4, 2011 3:46 pm
 

Vikings, Bills disagree with NFLCA's amicus brief

haha I found the dumbest posting so far today.

What a ridiculous assertion that everyone's pay has been made possible by the unions. The unions are nothing more than a Liberal institution that caters to the Democrats that always want want want and get appalled when they have to give back. Wisconsin was a great example and the thuggery that comes from unions when told to down size. Unions make up only 12% of the working force, they're a joke.
These Big Government loving, Big Spending, Science-hating, education attacking, Deficit creating, Birther, WMD lying, Swift Boat inventing Party of No members never cease to amaze and amuse me with their ability to parrot pill-heads and felons on talk radio despite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but their hatred of facts, reason, evidence, and logic in favor of emotion, hate, and anger is of course what makes them Republicans.  It is amazing how similar in their hatreds they are to Islamic Fundamentalists - the only difference is the language they speak because they certainly say the same things.  For example, Nichols and McVeigh, GOP heros, are just like the 9/11 terrorists.  BGoth militaary, both hate freedom, both hate tolerance, and both hate edcuation.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: June 4, 2011 10:27 am
 

Vikings, Bills disagree with NFLCA's amicus brief

unions are the reason every man woman and 16 year old in this country have a decent wage right now
haha I found the dumbest posting so far today.

What a ridiculous assertion that everyone's pay has been made possible by the unions. The unions are nothing more than a Liberal institution that caters to the Democrats that always want want want and get appalled when they have to give back. Wisconsin was a great example and the thuggery that comes from unions when told to down size. Unions make up only 12% of the working force, they're a joke.



Since: Oct 19, 2007
Posted on: June 3, 2011 11:44 pm
 

Vikings, Bills disagree with NFLCA's amicus brief

you sir are a rush and glenn beck fan I am sure and you also are a fool if you believe that unions have no use anymore. unions are the reason every man woman and 16 year old in this country have a decent wage right now if there were no unions everyone including yourself no matter what you do for a living unless let me guess you are a buisness owner? do you think that if the unions were gone that the price of goods would go down yea right there is no way that would happen the buisness would just make a lot more profit and the workers would live in poverty just like the old days of company stores and child labor. Try reading some history before you repete what hannity said today. and for the record you absolutly would bring jobs back from over seas because there would then be people over here working as slaves for 25 cent an hour just like in india and china but I am sure you are a buisness owner who is paying someone minimum wage and thinking how bad you got it cause they are only worth 25 cent! you my so called usa brother are what is wrong with this country go back to listen to rush now and leave this page to us sports guys who like to live in the middle class until guys like you destroy it mr superstar



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: June 3, 2011 11:20 pm
 

Vikings, Bills disagree with NFLCA's amicus brief

Of course they do. Unions lie. Unions have outlived their usefulness. The only thing they are good for today is ensuring jobs are outsourced overseas.

And Unions only represent themselves Josh, only the leftist of liberal fools believe differently.
Of course they side with their paymasters.  No slave in his right mind would go agsint his boss. Coaches are more easily replaced than players.

I like how uninformed posters just rotely blame "unions" for no other reason than it fits theor party line in other aspects.  No "union" locked out the players from the most succesful and profitable collective bargaining agreement in history, the community subsidized owners did (can we say socialism?).  Unions can certainly get to be overly abusive, but the facts certainly show that union memebrship is at an all time low.  So to blame unions for jobs being shipped overseas is simply a pill-head talk radio talking point with no basis in reality.  In fact, when union membership was at its highest, this great nation of ours enjoyed its greatest period of economic growth in its history.  Empirical facts just don't lie (though some with social agendas choose to ignore them).

Even more absurd would be to blame a lock-out, not a strike, on a union that no longer even exists.  The owners obviously violated the contract when they negotiated a TV deal soley for themselves (talk about eviil greed with no respect for law) in spite of the fact that in exchange for an almost slave-like control on where a player plays (draft and limited free-agency) they are legally obligated to negotiate in the best interests of both parties.

Maybe unions lie irregardless, but they are amateurs compared to the coddled owners that operate riisk-free under anti-trust exemption and more socialistic, collectivist revenue sharing plans.  Microsoft and Apple don't share funds lol.

Lots of bluster on this arguement, but the facts are outlined above.  All that being said, if this makes it to the Supreme Court the players don't have a prayer.  This particular Supreme Court has already proven itself to be the most activist in our nation's history with truly no regard for constitutional obligations.  Individual rights have been stripped at a record pace as corporations are now somehow "people" and with judges like Clarence Thomas actively receiving money from Big Corp/Big Government parties that they are ruling on, no onee can expect objectivity.  They allow warrantless wiretaps, they allow cops to do whatever they please, they strike down freedom after freedom.  Like the coaches, the judges are employees of the owners.


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