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NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

Posted on: June 13, 2011 9:33 pm
Edited on: June 13, 2011 11:10 pm
 
Posted by Ryan Wilson

We have talked more today about a player who last appeared in an NFL game two years ago, and another who has yet to do so, than we have about current NFL news. That's because it's June, we're in the middle of a lockout, and there's not much else going on.

But even if this was Week 8 of the regular season, the unfolding Terrelle Pryor saga is worth following. It's got a little bit of everything: lies, duplicity and what sounds like misguided hopes for the future.

Last week, Pryor left Ohio State and an ever-growing scandal in his rearview mirror, presumably with designs on making himself available to NFL teams through the supplemental draft. One problem: Pryor isn't considered much of a prospect, though he seems to think enough of his talents that he kindly told the CFL's Saskatchewan Roughriders thanks but no thanks after they extended him an offer.

Now Pryor has hired super agent Drew Rosenhaus, who isn't in the habit of representing schlubs on the fringes of professional football.

There are also rumors that Pryor hopes to get Fired Football Coaches Association founder Jon Gruden to serve as his quarterbacks coach in the coming weeks.

In April, Gruden spoke at the Ohio State coaches clinic where he first met Pryor, and when he was asked if he thought Pryor is an NFL prospect, he said, "Yeah, I do -- I really do," according to the Columbus Dispatch. "Again, I'm accused of liking too many people. 'Gruden likes everybody.' Well, sorry about that. (But) Bill Walsh used to say, 'Don't tell me what this guy can't do. Tell me what he can do."

All respect to Walsh, one of the great offensive minds in NFL history, but remember this: Walsh was a big fan of Trent Edwards coming out of Stanford. We guess all anyone ever told him was that Edwards excelled at throwing the checkdown pass. That's an example of when more information would have been useful.

"And I tell you, Terrelle Pryor can run and he can throw," Gruden continued. "And he's a helluva competitor. And if I coached him, I'd find something for him to do. You might have to cater your offense to a degree towards his strengths. But I think this guy can develop his passing the more you pass the ball. And I think the guy is a unique, rare talent."

That doesn't seem to be the consensus. In fact, NFL Films' Greg Cosell, who watches as much game tape as most coaches, took to Twitter to evaluate Pryor's NFL prospects.

For your education, in chronological order:
  • "I watched 2 games of Pryor, 7-8 of the other QB in draft. Based on those 2 games, Pryor a late round pick at best." - June 8 
  • "Finished 4 game study of Pryor: Miami, Wisconsin, Iowa and Arkansas in bowl game. A developmental project. No NFL QB traits at this point." - June 9
  • More Pryor: Those who equate body athleticism to QB skills + tools will see positives. Those who see NFL QB as a craft will not see much." - June 10 
  • "More Pryor: Many issues that need major work. 2 are average arm strength + erratic accuracy. Little velocity. Can't drive ball. Poor passer." - June 10 
  • "More Pryor: For those who equate athleticism with QB he's a draftable player. I evaluated him w/late round/free agent grade. No NFL skills." - June 10 
And for those quick to compare Pryor to Cam Newton, there's one huge difference:
  • "Major difference between Pryor + Newton is Newton can throw. Big arm, drives the ball. Newton can make NFL throws, Pryor at this point can't." - June 10 
While it might be hard to make out, there is a silver lining. Again, via Cosell: "Pryor's advantage in supp. draft is no expectations. Can be a #3 QB + perhaps develop over time. Still a major question but ideal situation."

But here's the rub: you'll never read "no expectations" on the scouting report of high-round draft picks. In fact, it's how you end up with the late round/free agent grade Cosell gave Pryor. 

Of course, Rosenhaus' job is to sell his client. Or, at the very least, have that be the perception. If Pryor ends up going in the fifth round of the supplemental draft, Rosenhaus will declare it a victory. In terms of PR, he's probably right. Just something to remember, though: Former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett sat out a season before entering the draft. The Broncos eventually took him in the third round, and he didn't make it out of training camp.

The expectations will be much higher for Pryor, and the scrutiny will be even more intense.

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Comments

Since: Mar 25, 2011
Posted on: June 14, 2011 11:16 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

The question with Gruden is, why is he considered a QB gurue? Name ONE young QB that he developed! He won with veteran QB's in Oakland and Tampa! Plus, he did win with Dungsy"s players! Can you be sure that Tampa wouldn't have won it all that same year with Dungy as coach? ( and this is from a Raiders fan)



Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: June 14, 2011 10:57 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

He's done too many stupid things.  You gotta question whether he has the intelligence to play QB. Still, some GM will think they can change the way he thinks.



Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2011 10:56 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

This guy is dumb as a box of rocks! he may have physical skills but that won't land him a job as an NFL Qb. Ask Vince Young.
I put my money on this guy NOT playing in the NFL. He'll be begging the CFL for another shot.



Since: May 11, 2011
Posted on: June 14, 2011 10:56 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

I guess Rosenhaus needs the pub? No NFL team is going to give this guy the time of day as a QB. You need maturity, guts, and humility to be even a serviceable NFL quarterback and this guy has none of those attributes. Do you really want someone anywhere near your locker room who makes bad decisions, puts others in a bad situation, and then quits?! I'd say he best be learning some route running skills or reconsider his position on the CFL.



Since: Feb 4, 2011
Posted on: June 14, 2011 9:58 am
 

There are worse #3 quarterbacks out there

For a team looking for an athletic run-and-throw quarterback project, their options right now are:

- Joshua Portis, who has less arm strength, less accuracy, and WAY more character red flags
- Troy Smith, who has shown nothing in the NFL, and at 6'0" and zero arm strength has a very low ceiling
- Tarvaris Jackson, who has been bad in the NFL, and at 28 has already passed his "potential" stage

And Terrelle Pryor.

He's worth a 7th round supplemental pick and a year on the bench.



Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2011 9:21 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

TP reeks of Maurice Clarett. Only difference is Pryor won't be drafted well ahead of where scouts expected. He'll be an experiment for NFL teams until he gets in more trouble with the law and that's the last we'll hear about him on a football field.



Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2011 9:12 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

Once again, everyone forgets that the tool of athleticism doesn't work as an NFL QB.  Look, I'm not saying you can be an NFL and not be athletic.  What I am saying is that people that grade out where athleticism is their #1 trait don't make a successful QB.  Look at all the great QBs in the league right now.  Which one is highlighted by their athleticism...Aaron Rodgers would perhaps be the closest but not by a long shot.  He has much better tools.  McNabb (isn't great by any means)...wasn't a successful QB until he learned to throw the ball and not run.  Also, learned to grip the ball not as tight which gave him a drop in ball speed but a big lift in accuracy.  

My point, you need more than athleticism to be an NFL QB and if that is your strong suit, you are better served at WR, DB, or a Chris Johnson/Jamaal Charles style RB. 



Since: Oct 6, 2008
Posted on: June 14, 2011 7:20 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

What about character issues? This guy has to be the poster boy for having character problems. I would think his issues, baggage, and the media scrutiny he will have wherever he goes will turn a lot of teams off.



Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: June 14, 2011 7:04 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

Wy draft a cheater?   Dude obviously has low ethics.



Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2011 6:39 am
 

NFL Films' Cosell gives Pryor 'late round' grade

YA well I gave him a grade too. A big "F." It represents his overall person...Failure, Fink, Fool, Forget OSU, Fast money, Finished.


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