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Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

Posted on: June 15, 2011 11:20 am
Edited on: June 15, 2011 11:34 am
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Posted by Josh Katzowitz

On Tuesday, a new sense of optimism invaded the NFL world, especially after CBSSports.com’s own Mike Freeman reported that labor negotiations were 80-85 percent complete and that it would be difficult for either side to screw up the progress (naturally, I followed up with a post about how the talks COULD be screwed up).

Today, though, there have been tweets here and there dispelling some of the enthusiasm that a new CBA could be forthcoming soon (an example from NFL spokesman Greg Aiello: “As late, legendary George Young said: ‘There is no such thing as close. It’s either done or it isn’t.’”)

And now ESPN.com’s Adam Schefter is reporting that talks almost blew up Tuesday, and not surprisingly, the incident occurred after the lawyers were let back into the negotiations – ahem, that was No. 1 on my list of reasons that could derail the negotiations.

From Schefter:

How close it did (come to blowing up) is a matter of opinion. But what is factual is that the moment came shortly after lawyers from both sides were brought back into the process. As tensions rose and anger grew, two sources said NFL Players Association leader DeMaurice Smith instructed his lawyers to "stand down."

With the lawyers removed from the direct negotiations, the process was said to get back on track and to a good spot. The incident is an example of just how tenuous these talks can be and how quickly they can be derailed.

But it also is the ultimate proof that (DeMaurice) Smith and his players, and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and the owners have taken the process out of the hands of the attorneys and demanded that they control it as the two sides try to hammer out a collective bargaining agreement.


If Tuesday was an overly-optimistic day, then today’s news is a bit of a slap in the face. But the two sides are talking – and really, since nobody is talking on the record, it’s hard to know exactly what is going on – and that’s always a good sign.

Now, if they could just keep the lawyers out of the room.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 10:52 am
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

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Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2011 1:51 pm
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

I thought my comments were too rediculous to be taken as literal,

like you said, considering the company your with on this thread, it's hard not to view that comment as meaning the literal translation of your feelings, ive heard alot crazier comments on the subject to tell you the truth, sometimes i think most of these posters are just jealous by the amount of money made by these guys, hoping that maybe if these guys lose their job, they might get a shot lmfao, although i didnt read every comment on this thread so i didnt know your particular stance on the issue in whether you were joking or not so for that i apologize, simple misunderstanding, it's all good



Since: Oct 28, 2008
Posted on: June 16, 2011 11:40 am
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

"greed is good, as long as it is not the players" well there are only 2 sides to this agrument, the owners and the players, if greed is good by the owners, then i would guess my comment was a correct assessment of your feelings, and i didnt even need the bong

Maybe you should pick the bong back up then b/c it was fairly obvious to me that I was taking a crack at all of the owner lovers who think that players are overpaid and should just be thankful that they can play football and get some money out of it.  I thought my comments were too rediculous to be taken as literal, but I guess I didn't look close enough at the company I'm with on this thread. So I was using hyperbole. 

So my point was that owner lovers would enjoy watching NCAA football despite it's corruption and greed b/c the players don't make money and have no real power. The good ol boy system at the colleges and the BCS get to enjoy all the riches. Get it?  For some reason this makes more sense to some people than the players making any money or having any power.



Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2011 10:24 am
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

excuse me bob, now that i re-read your post, im guessing the word "hald" is suppose to be "half" so at least you got the right amount of money that was cut from medicare, but like i said this is politics at its finest, even if the republicans support the cuts from medicare (which we all know they do) if it is a democrat thats proposes the actual means by which the cuts will be made, the republicans are going to automatically oppose the plan, simply because they dont want the dems to get credit if the action taken works out in a positive light, if that half a mil cut from medicare ends up saving the taxpayers billions and also helps saves other dying programs lie medicaid or social security, do you really think the repubs want the dems toting that on their shoulders come election time?  

the same thing happens if a repub introduces a bill that may include a raise in taxes, even if we all know that the dems want taxes raised to cover the measure, the dems are liable to oppose the measure in congress, this is the exact reason why there isnt a damn thing that gets done on capitol hill, everyone is too busy arguing with themselves and trying to advance their own agendas, to worry with whats best for the american people, they only care about whats best for their party and their main constituents, and in the republicans case, that is big business owners, im sure that by my comments your automatic assumption is that im a democrat, I AM NOT!!  im as close to the middle of the road as they come, voted for gore in 2000, w in 2004, obama in 2008, and from the rate that things are going, the pattern in which i vote probably wont change unless obama can drop the unemployment rate below about 7.5% in the next year, im an american who takes time to look at his choices before making a decision, rather than just voting for someone simply because of what party they are aligned with, and with that, i will leave my politics on the situation alone



Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2011 9:42 am
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

Millarben: I hate it when people inject political crapola into sports discussions, but I couldn't let your characterization of Republicans wanting to "screw the little guy" go by...it was the Democrats that just last year stripped hald a TRILLION dollars out of Medicare to provide care for young people that don't really need it, and you say it's the Republicans that screw people????  LMAO.

bob, maybe you should figure out who you are trying to complain to before you start complaining, i made that comment to millarben, and he reposted it as a quote dummy, oh, and since when is $500 billion all of a sudden turn into TRILLIONS?  whats so odd about this argument is, its the right side of the isle thats always screaming to cut prices here, slash benefits there, in order to keep up the personna of being "fiscally conservative"  but the moment the left side trys cutting prices, rather than raising more taxes to cover it, then i guess they are now screwing the little guy, right?  politics at its finest, when i made the comment refering to him as a republican, it was more along the lines of, republicans support tax breaks for rich business owners, yet they oppose a federal minimum wage increase, does that sound a little better than "screw the little guy?" 




Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2011 9:24 am
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

Put down the bong 420 and read my comment in it's context.  I meant exactly the opposite of how you took it.

are you serious?  lets check the context, you said quote, "no (referring to not minding big business in college football where players arent paid anything more than educational expenses) because the players arent the ones being paid"  you were making a comparison between college and pro football and how they pay players, you support the college system where no one gets anything other than educational expenses and whatever money the local booster might slip you under the table, you went on to say "greed is good, as long as it is not the players" well there are only 2 sides to this agrument, the owners and the players, if greed is good by the owners, then i would guess my comment was a correct assessment of your feelings, and i didnt even need the bong Wink



Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: June 16, 2011 2:00 am
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

It would be nice if the fans could boycott the games this year and show the players and owners who really has control over the NFL, but the poor fans won't, but they will feel the brunt of it all.


Honestly... so true.  If the fans could ever get together league wide using social media, the news, and whatever else is necessary to boycott not only going to games but watching them on television it would change how the NFL and other sports organizations do business. Players conracts would decrease dramatically and union leaders in all sports would throw up on a daily basis...

I've said the same thing so many times. But the original poster is right. Most fans are so hungry for NFL football(myself included) that I just don't think the majority of fans can do it. As for myself, as I posted earlier, having to deal with a physical disability and losing the only house I've ever known for 48 of my 50 years, I have no sympathy for the so-called "plight' of the owners and players. Very simple, THEY DON'T HAVE IT AS BAD as many of us fans in this economy.

But back to the subject, If the NFL does significantly shorten, this season, I hope 90% of the fans around the world will do as I do. Don't attend or watch the games on TV. If that ever did happen, Wings has it right. Both sides would be throwing up and soiling their pants constantly.




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2011 1:19 am
 

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

It would be nice if the fans could boycott the games this year and show the players and owners who really has control over the NFL, but the poor fans won't, but they will feel the brunt of it all.

Honestly... so true.  If the fans could ever get together league wide using social media, the news, and whatever else is necessary to boycott not only going to games but watching them on television it would change how the NFL and other sports organizations do business. Players conracts would decrease dramatically and union leaders in all sports would throw up on a daily basis...


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