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Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

Posted on: June 15, 2011 11:20 am
Edited on: June 15, 2011 11:34 am
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

On Tuesday, a new sense of optimism invaded the NFL world, especially after’s own Mike Freeman reported that labor negotiations were 80-85 percent complete and that it would be difficult for either side to screw up the progress (naturally, I followed up with a post about how the talks COULD be screwed up).

Today, though, there have been tweets here and there dispelling some of the enthusiasm that a new CBA could be forthcoming soon (an example from NFL spokesman Greg Aiello: “As late, legendary George Young said: ‘There is no such thing as close. It’s either done or it isn’t.’”)

And now’s Adam Schefter is reporting that talks almost blew up Tuesday, and not surprisingly, the incident occurred after the lawyers were let back into the negotiations – ahem, that was No. 1 on my list of reasons that could derail the negotiations.

From Schefter:

How close it did (come to blowing up) is a matter of opinion. But what is factual is that the moment came shortly after lawyers from both sides were brought back into the process. As tensions rose and anger grew, two sources said NFL Players Association leader DeMaurice Smith instructed his lawyers to "stand down."

With the lawyers removed from the direct negotiations, the process was said to get back on track and to a good spot. The incident is an example of just how tenuous these talks can be and how quickly they can be derailed.

But it also is the ultimate proof that (DeMaurice) Smith and his players, and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and the owners have taken the process out of the hands of the attorneys and demanded that they control it as the two sides try to hammer out a collective bargaining agreement.

If Tuesday was an overly-optimistic day, then today’s news is a bit of a slap in the face. But the two sides are talking – and really, since nobody is talking on the record, it’s hard to know exactly what is going on – and that’s always a good sign.

Now, if they could just keep the lawyers out of the room.

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Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2011 7:07 pm

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

how did the democrats strip billions of dollars from medicare?

Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 4:04 pm

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

Lawyers rule!!!  If all the reports are true, NFL is close to finishing this thing and a CBA may be in place by July, and all of this was accomplished without the presence of said lawyers, why would they even choose to let these guys back in? 

Smith to Goodell:  "Look at all the great work we did without these knucklehead lawyers, but they've been sitting in the lobby all this time and we are paying them, let's get them back in here so they can actually earn their money." 

Lawyers 1 and 2:  "You almost have this issue mediated?!?!  NOOOOOOO!!!  We think both sides deserve more, and I heard the other side talking about your mothers!!  You can't agree with anyone who talks about your mothers!!  Plus, I need this to go until September to pay for my new Manhattan condo!"

Here's an idea to keep your lawyers busy, make them your gophers.  Make them get you some Boston clam chowder, from Boston.  Get some delicious, hot Starbucks coffee, from Seattle.  Keep them the f- out of your negotiations.  Is it really a surprise to anyone that these  attorneys don't really help the the process, instead they make sure their pockets are going to continue getting lined with the necessary amount of cash to keep them happy?

Hopefully this is realized before it's too late, and both sides continue their efforts, sans lawyers.

Since: May 22, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 3:45 pm

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

It's kind of incredible that the owners and the players don't realize there's a gold mine here and it's the fans. I think the fans are going to be hurt the most because the NFL product this year will not be nearly as good as in past years. One thing is for sure as was mentioned in a prior post...the players take all of the risks going out there and playing...what do the owners risk besides the scads of money they already have.

It would be nice if the fans could boycott the games this year and show the players and owners who really has control over the NFL, but the poor fans won't, but they will feel the brunt of it all.

Since: Feb 22, 2011
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:53 pm
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Since: Mar 3, 2011
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:51 pm

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

This entire labor dispute is ridiculous. The owners are not taking any risk at all with their investment. The owners' dispute is really bewteen themselves. Why should big market cash cows like Giants Pats Cowboys and teams like that share revenues with owners of the Bills Bengals Jaguars. Those of you who say it is business 101 that owners shouldn't share more than they make have a valid point. What about the idea that we have a true "Free Market" league and do away with the cap and revenue sharing? Isn't that more American than the socialist way the league is run right now? The product being sold is the athletic ability of the players, they take 90 % of the risk when they step on the field. It's a shame that most of the players  are too arogant, stupid, or ignorant to realize how good they have it, and also a shame that the owners don't realize how good they have it making billions off someone else's talents. Every year some moronic act by a player or obnoxious billionaire owner begging a community for $ causes me to care less about the NFL. I love football but will not give 1 more $ to either of these 2 groups of jerks.

Since: Oct 28, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:49 pm
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Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:44 pm

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

Millarben: I hate it when people inject political crapola into sports discussions, but I couldn't let your characterization of Republicans wanting to "screw the little guy" go was the Democrats that just last year stripped hald a TRILLION dollars out of Medicare to provide care for young people that don't really need it, and you say it's the Republicans that screw people????  LMAO.

Since: Mar 23, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:44 pm

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

LIke I said on a diferent thread...the lawyers don't want this to end...they could endure a lockout as long as both sides could afford to pay them.

I am thinking  more of DeMaurice Smith after he shipped the lawyers out of the room. 

I suspect a deal gets done before the fourth....

Sean Durity
Since: Jun 15, 2011
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:35 pm
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Since: Oct 28, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:33 pm

Report: CBA talks almost blew up Tuesday

im guessing your a republican from that comment, screw the little guy as long as the business makes all the profit, yet doesnt even break a sweat, right? ....

Put down the bong 420 and read my comment in it's context.  I meant exactly the opposite of how you took it.

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