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2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'

Posted on: June 15, 2011 7:12 pm
Edited on: June 15, 2011 7:41 pm
Posted by Ryan Wilson

The week started on a high note, and for the first time all spring the promise of a 2011 season not only seemed possible, but imminent. More than that, the acrimony between owners and players (and the lawyers that represented them), palpable for most of the lockout, suddenly melted away. Not to overdramatize the past few days, but hope is a powerful emotion, particularly for fans who live and die with their NFL teams.

The recent secret meetings between the two sides was almost simultaneously described as "heading in the right direction" and nearly "blowing up." The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle (though the optimist in us likes to think a new deal is "80-85 percent complete").

For now, however, owners and players will retire to their respective corners to reevaluate what just transpired and regroup for future get-togethers. (Note to interested parties: give the lawyers the wrong address for the next round of meetings. Trust us, it's for the best.)

As for the just-concluded two-day talks,'s Albert Breer writes that "According to sources, the talks remain productive and are moving forward, though a resolution to the three-month-old lockout is not on the immediate horizon.

"Both sides have evaluated and strongly considered the concessions and compromises that could ultimately lead to the problem being solved, though, and sources indicated an agreement could come within a month."

The sides also released a joint statement Wednesday, and promised to keep the media out of the proceedings. Their statement:

“Discussions between NFL owners and players under the auspices of Chief Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan took place again this week and will continue. At the request of Judge Boylan, both sides have agreed to maintain the confidentiality of the substance of the talks.”

Next up for the owners: a June 21 meeting outside Chicago. The meeting is scheduled for one day but could drag on longer as both sides presumably work toward a deal.

The players, meanwhile, will continue to workout -- both informally and on their own -- with renewed hopes for an NFL season.

"Probably a sense of urgency with the season just around the corner," Saints quarterback Drew Brees said Wednesday. "The general understanding from everybody is that if we don't have something done by July it would be hard to start on time."

Well, no time like the present, fellas.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 9:34 am

2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'

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Since: Oct 9, 2007
Posted on: June 18, 2011 11:51 am

2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'

I'm not talking about Robert Kraft's personal lawyer.  He's not even in this equation to any significance.  There are TWO main players here: the lawyer for the Owners and the one representing the NFLPA.  They are not associated with any single owner or player.

I find it interesting that the most inflammatory statements in the past few weeks were made by one of the lawyers representing, not by any owner or by any player.  And again, they had to be reigned in by both sides just a couple days ago before they screwed the process up.  So in this case it DOES look like the lawyers aren't interested in seeing this hashed out outside the legal system.   Why the heck are they trying to stir up the bad blood more if they are serious about helping the settlement process?  Not every lawyer is completely honest and lives just to serve their clients.  There are some who will manipulate to meet their own agendas. 

My guess, the Owners and Players will (and are better off) sending the lawyers home for the time being while the deal is completed, then bring them back in and tell them what papers to write up.  That's all they need to do right now, not make potentially derailing statements to the press.     

Since: Apr 14, 2007
Posted on: June 16, 2011 2:41 am

2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'

One thing is clear by Ken Valpo's post...the JD does not stand for Juris doctor given his knowledge of the law, and the current state of the lockout. Seriously, I hope you guys are getting paid by the NFLPA to spin this garbage on message boards because if not you come off looking nothing but foolish.

Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2011 1:17 am

2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'

Friskyone (11:33 p.m.), who hired the lawyers?  The lawyers aren't the problems, and if the clients don't like what the lawyers are doing, they'll fire them--especially if they're paid by the hour, which not all lawyers are.  The problem is the clients' positions.  It's those that will have to change before the dispute can be settled. 

America has more lawyers than the rest of the world combined.  Could this be part of the problem?

America has more of a lot of things than other countries do.  Some of them are pretty good things, too.  As to lawyers--some of the people in those other countries you mention only wish they had lawyers.  And as to you--if what you wish for is for us to be just like every other country in the world--be careful what you wish for.

Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 11:39 pm

2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'


You make no sense at all. The owners just won the last major legal battle and by all accounts the players are giving ground due to the fact that they think they'll lose in the 8th circuit and the lockout will remain. The loss of the TV money is a blow to the owners but by no means affects them more than no paychecks affects the players.

Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 11:33 pm

2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'

Walker, Seems to make sense to me. I assume the lawyers get paid by the hour so stringing things out would make sense. Also, if they get their name attached to some big legal ruling it would up their status in the legal world. Seems kind of telling that everything was reportedly going well untill the lawyers got involved...then the bickering started.

Here's a sad fact...America has more lawyers than the rest of the world combined. Could this be part of the problem?

Since: Nov 17, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2011 11:17 pm

2-day talks end; owners, players 'moving forward'

The problem wasn't the lawyers.  It was the owners thinking they had the players by the short and curlies and determined to hammer them.  When the owners' little "lockout insurance policy" was thrown out by the court and a preliminary injunction entered against them, even though they got a stay of that injunction from the appeals court, the owners suddenly realized that this could cost them money, and they were finally ready to talk.

Does anyone seriously think that if Robert Kraft wants to settle, his lawyer's going to try to keep the lockout going?  Of course not. The lawyer's going to do what's in Kraft's interest, which has changed from lockout to settlement.  Same for all the other owners.

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