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More on same-sex marriage from David Tyree

Posted on: June 20, 2011 3:23 pm
Edited on: June 20, 2011 3:39 pm
D. Tyree still says gay marriage should not be legal (Getty).Posted by Josh Katzowitz

You remember how we told you about former Giants WR David Tyree and his belief that same-sex marriage was a sin? Well, actually he didn’t say the word "sin," but he did say that allowing gay men and women to wed would lead us to “anarchy.”

This is obviously a hot topic, especially in New York where the state legislature will decide whether to allow same-sex marriage, possibly today. So the NY Daily News caught up with Tyree and asked him if he would trade his greatest catch in Super Bowl XLII in order to stop same-sex marriage.

"The catch was a gift, it's not like I'd try to do it," he said. "I couldn't do it again so that was a miracle. There's nothing worth more than [maintaining heterosexual marriage] right here for me."

The Daily News then asked if he would trade his Super Bowl title to stop gay marriage.

"Honestly, I probably would,” he said, “Nothing means more to me than that my God would be honored. Being the fact that I firmly believe that God created and ordained marriage between a man and a woman, I believe that that's something that should be fought for at all costs.

"So I'll lay down everything I am to preserve the honor and integrity of the God that I serve."

One might think, with opinions like that, the God that Tyree serves is somewhat intolerant, but in an interesting twist, Tyree also said he doesn't oppose recognizing same-sex unions. As in, he wouldn’t mind if those couples received benefits.

Said Tyree: “But to call it marriage is not something I would ever agree with or think that our government has the right to change the definition of marriage when it didn't start here."

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Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: June 21, 2011 12:17 pm

More on same-sex marriage from David Tyree

Is Tyree on a team?  Shouldn't he have bigger concerns than commenting on same-sex marriage?  His focused should be on his shaky career and whether he put enough money away.  I guess he is trying to start his next a career as Christian social commentator.  Interesting enough, Barack Obama is trying to stake out the same ground on same-sex marriage err...civil unions.  I wish people would spend less time defending the concept of marriage, and more time tending to thier marriages.  The divorce rate is ridiculous, and Christians have down their own part in dishonoring marriage.  "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" Matthew 7:3.  Christians need to spend more time being Christians, instead of legislators.  Leave the laws alone.  You don't need laws to honor your God. If you want to honor Him, do it through your actions. 

Since: May 19, 2007
Posted on: June 21, 2011 9:54 am

More on same-sex marriage from David Tyree

A little US Marriage Definition History:

In the United States, the meaning of "marriage" has  been in a continual state of flux:

  • In the early part of the 19th century, marriage was generally considered a legally sanctified contract of mutual support between two consenting non-African-American adults of opposite gender.  African-Americans were prohibited from marrying in many states.
  • Later, in the area that was to become the state of Utah, polygyny was legalized; marriage there became a legally sanctified contract of mutual support between a man and one or more women, all being non-African-American consenting adults. A few years before Utah became a state, the earlier definition was reinstated, restricting marriage to one woman and one man.
  • After the Civil War and over the objections of many conservative folks, African-Americans were permitted to marry. A marriage then became more inclusive: a contract between two consenting adults of the same race and of opposite gender.
  • In 1967, again over the objections of about 70% of the population, mixed-race couples were permitted to marry. The U.S. Supreme Court decided on JUN-12 of that year that all 16 remaining state miscegenation laws which prohibited interracial marriage were unconstitutional. <sub>1</sub> Ironically, the court case was called "Loving v. Virginia." A marriage then became even more inclusive: a contract between any two consenting adults of opposite gender.
This brings us to present day and now instead of descriminating based on race we are now doing it based on sexual orientation.  Tyree should remember that if people that thought like him had won 44 years ago, he still would not be able to be married.

In the words of K Johnson...Tyree just let someone throw you the damn ball.

Stop the hate...keep the peace.

Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: June 21, 2011 8:44 am

More on same-sex marriage from David Tyree

What does "being healthy" have to do with raising kids?  What does being able to conceive have to do w/ it?  You shoot your own argument in the foot acknowledging that some people can't have children, including post-mentepausal women.  If two people can raise children in a home with love and tolerance (something you are w/out) then why not?  Look at society:  you have "natural" parents who abuse, abandon, sexually molest, sell into slavery, and even kill their children.  Would you create a test for prospective parents, and "put an asterisk" on the marriages of those who fail? 

Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: June 21, 2011 8:34 am

More on same-sex marriage from David Tyree

Jack_:  Do us a favor:  keep religion out of the discussion.  Marriage is NOT between man/woman and God.  Marriages done by religious leaders are valid ONLY if a license from the government is signed.  Marriages performed by the gov. without a religious leader (like at city hall before a JP) are legal.  A religious leader can perform a legal marriage ONLY if he is approved by the state.  In other words, if you called yourself the leader of some religious cult, any marriage you perform is not legal.  So, marriage needs the state to be legal, not the Church.  Marriages all over the world are done w/out religious connections.  None are recognized if they are not sanctioned by the  government.  THINK ABOUT IT.  How can a religion dictate tax policy, inheritance rights, property rights?  That is a function of what society recognizes, and not everyone in society believes in YOUR religion. That's the beauty of separation of church & state.  "Remder unto Caesar..." remember?

Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: June 21, 2011 8:31 am

More on same-sex marriage from David Tyree

Magicfan 1423: “Ask yourself, if it’s true that sexual orientation is innate, is God-given, then what does it mean to the moral force of your argument? To put it in the vernacular, what I would ask is, ‘How many more people does God have to create before we ask ourselves whether or not God actually wants them around? How many gay people does God have to create before we ask ourselves whether the living of their lives the way they wish as long as they don’t harm others is a Godly, holy, happy, glorious thing?”--quoting Rep. Steve Simon (MN House)

All men and women are possessed of free will, Fan, just as all of us are Fallen. Adam and Eve first sinned, Cane slew Abel, and each of us has committed numerous sins since then. None of which gives any of us the right to PROMOTE any particular sort of sinfulness as righteousness. Doing so is itself seriously sinful. Seeking to lead others astray is wicked. Promoting a particular sin to the extent that one seeks to make others acknowledge your profanation of a holy sacrament is not merely sinful, but FOUL. As well offer brimstone as the Body of Christ, communion with Satan as Holy Confession, or the Black Mass as Holy Mass.

Some actions reveal the sinner's KNOWING intent. This is one such. 

Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: June 21, 2011 8:06 am

More on same-sex marriage from David Tyree

Josh, in what way is Tyree being "somewhat intolerant"? In Christian theology, NEW Testament variety, there is no out. Marriage is not merely a contract between "man and woman," but also both a contract between man and God and another between woman and God. Each of these is a reminder of the Covenant between the Israelites and God. (The which  some, but not all, Christian denominations extend to themselves, or even other Christians, as their wont is to include within the definition.) Acceding to what is, in essence, a demand that we ALL henceforth call a pig a horse and blue red goes too far for a great many of those who have heretofore refrained from engaging much in the "culture wars." 

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