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Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Posted on: July 4, 2011 6:46 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2011 8:35 pm
 
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

As the NFL owners and the NFLPA prepare to return to the negotiating table after the three-day weekend, it seems their lives are doomed to become more complicated. That’s because the The New York Times is reporting that the group of retired players involved in the Brady v. NFL case is set to prepare a complaint against the players and owners.

From the Times:

The class-action complaint, to be filed in Federal District Court in Minneapolis against the teams, the league, the players named in the Brady v. N.F.L. lawsuit and DeMaurice Smith, the head of the N.F.L. Players Association, asserted that the sides were violating antitrust laws by negotiating settlement terms that improperly encompassed the rights of retired players in the time since the N.F.L.P.A. renounced its union status.

The complaint says that the current players and the association, along with the N.F.L., “are conspiring to depress the amounts of pension and disability benefits to be paid to former N.F.L. players in order to maximize the salaries and benefits to current N.F.L. players.”
And it says that while the N.F.L. is willing to commit additional money to retirees from within and outside the league’s salary cap, the union “has insisted that the sum within the salary cap be given to current players instead.”

The complaint will ask Judge Susan Nelson to issue an injunction to halt the talks between the owners and players regarding retired players’ benefits, and it asks for a declaration that the NFLPA cannot represent those retired players in a new CBA settlement or for other litigation.

Basically, the alumni want to represent themselves in these talks.

“We feel we have a seat at the table, but we’re having the chair pulled out from under us,” Michael Hausfeld, the lawyer representing retired players, told the paper. “Both sides are saying, ‘We’ll decide what’s in your best interests.’”

As the Times points out, though, Nelson might be reluctant to add a third party to the mix so late in the negotiations, partially because it seems like the two sides might be closing in on a solution and partially because bringing somebody else to the table might make matters much more complicated.

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Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: July 9, 2011 11:25 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

These old guys made the NFL what it is today so give 'em their money they earned it without a doubt, they didn't play for millions or whinge about it either, and the late John Mackey is just one example, pay up tight wads!



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 7, 2011 12:04 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

I think its a shame that NFL doesn't figure out a way to create a fund to take care of these guys... But I don't think they have a legal leg to stand on... Although its the right thing to do, I don't think the NFL or the Players Assoc are legally obligated to take care of the retired players.... Obviously I don't know all the facts involved but thats just my opinion....

I don't get it.  Why is it the NFL's responsiblity to take care of everybody that ever plays the game for life?  Why can't the NFLPA create a fund that takes care of retirees and their current membership for life?  I posted this a million times but here I go again.  The players made over 4 billion dollars last season alone.  If they save a lousy 5 percent of their income through the NFLPA they would have put aside over 200 million dollars in just one season.  That amounts to ONE BILLION DOLLARS in 5 years.... how much medical coverage do you think you get for a BILLION dollars?  This means a player making 400 grand has to live on 380.... this means the average NFL player making 1 million dollars has to learn to live on 950 thousand..... and the guy making 10 million needs to survive on 9.5 million instead... EVERYBODY can do that.... and if they have a half a brain they can easily afford to do this.  It's not the owners responsiblity and certainly not feasible long term.  How can anybody expect the owners to cover every retiree and any current and future NFL player for life? Those numbers will grow almost exponentially for God sakes.... what happens if the NFL isn't as popular in 20 years?  Do the owners go bankrupt to cover player retirement costs?  Players in a union that claim they only provide an average of 3.5 years of service?  C'mon man.....

 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 6, 2011 10:41 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

well being denied coverage at 30 years old because insurance companies were already saying these knee, back, neck ect.... surgeries are pre-existing.

That problem would have been avoided if a player would have purchased private medical insurance prior to playing in the NFL or prior to being hurt.  The problem is too many people were cheap and didn't want to invest in medical at that time because the NFL was covering them for as long as they were playing and for a while after that.  They didn't think ahead... and unfortunately that decision is going to cost them for as long as they live.  Had they purchased a good private insurance policy early enough and kept paying premiums throughout their career they would still have coverage today..... but they didn't.

Two things.... last I looked I have never seen anyone paying for tickets to entertain themselves to watch someone pour chemicals or work with asbestos. 2nd... if they can prove chemcials or asbestos has effected them, they can win a lawsiut and get paid. I don't know of any retired players able to go back after the league with a lawsiut for injuries that they can prove many times with video were the injury came from. 

Who would you like them to sue? I know of an example of a company that was around for over 30 years about 20 miles from my house. They paid well and benefits were included.  A few years ago they shut down and it wasn't long after that as ex employees got older problems started coming out.... some were dying young and others are sick for life.  The ones that didn't purchase private insurance right after they lost their job and before they got sick are in big trouble.. there is nobody to sue.

And what do you mean when you say you won't pay to watch somebody pour chemicals?  What does that have to do with anything? Just because I'm willing to pay to watch Calvin Johnson catch a football doesn't mean his life is more valuable then a guy that works in a factory.... that comment you made was stupid. 



Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: July 6, 2011 2:02 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

I think its a shame that NFL doesn't figure out a way to create a fund to take care of these guys... But I don't think they have a legal leg to stand on... Although its the right thing to do, I don't think the NFL or the Players Assoc are legally obligated to take care of the retired players.... Obviously I don't know all the facts involved but thats just my opinion....


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