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Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Posted on: July 4, 2011 6:46 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2011 8:35 pm
 
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

As the NFL owners and the NFLPA prepare to return to the negotiating table after the three-day weekend, it seems their lives are doomed to become more complicated. That’s because the The New York Times is reporting that the group of retired players involved in the Brady v. NFL case is set to prepare a complaint against the players and owners.

From the Times:

The class-action complaint, to be filed in Federal District Court in Minneapolis against the teams, the league, the players named in the Brady v. N.F.L. lawsuit and DeMaurice Smith, the head of the N.F.L. Players Association, asserted that the sides were violating antitrust laws by negotiating settlement terms that improperly encompassed the rights of retired players in the time since the N.F.L.P.A. renounced its union status.

The complaint says that the current players and the association, along with the N.F.L., “are conspiring to depress the amounts of pension and disability benefits to be paid to former N.F.L. players in order to maximize the salaries and benefits to current N.F.L. players.”
And it says that while the N.F.L. is willing to commit additional money to retirees from within and outside the league’s salary cap, the union “has insisted that the sum within the salary cap be given to current players instead.”

The complaint will ask Judge Susan Nelson to issue an injunction to halt the talks between the owners and players regarding retired players’ benefits, and it asks for a declaration that the NFLPA cannot represent those retired players in a new CBA settlement or for other litigation.

Basically, the alumni want to represent themselves in these talks.

“We feel we have a seat at the table, but we’re having the chair pulled out from under us,” Michael Hausfeld, the lawyer representing retired players, told the paper. “Both sides are saying, ‘We’ll decide what’s in your best interests.’”

As the Times points out, though, Nelson might be reluctant to add a third party to the mix so late in the negotiations, partially because it seems like the two sides might be closing in on a solution and partially because bringing somebody else to the table might make matters much more complicated.

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Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: July 6, 2011 12:13 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Why doesn't their most recent employer pay for their benefits/pension?  If these guys retired in their 30's or younger - what have they been doing since then?


well being denied coverage at 30 years old because insurance companies were already saying these knee, back, neck ect.... surgeries are pre-existing. Yea i know, a lot of the folks on here clammering about why don't they take care of thier money and invest. Most people have insurance through the company they work for until they are about to retire. How many of you have heard your parents wanting to retire at 62 or 63 or 65 but putting it off because of health insurance costs when they leave thier current company? Why are they putting it off? didn't they invest and save for 40 years so they would't have to wait? Now, all the money they could have invested over all those years ( because they weren't being denied insurance coverage for pre-existing injuries) at age 28!!! You go back to the players in the 60's and 70's, well that is exactly what a lot of them had to do. Spending thier own money instead of being covered by an insurance company. And to one guy that said there are aother jobs people worked with chemaicals and whatever that do not have a company paying for thier healthcare for life? Two things.... last I looked I have never seen anyone paying for tickets to entertain themselves to watch someone pour chemicals or work with asbestos. 2nd... if they can prove chemcials or asbestos has effected them, they can win a lawsiut and get paid. I don't know of any retired players able to go back after the league with a lawsiut for injuries that they can prove many times with video were the injury came from.  




Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: July 6, 2011 11:48 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

STOP comparing pro sports to ANY working stiffs job in America, the two are NOT comparable at all. It's a supply and demand business and only WINNING fills the seats and brings a Lombardi, not just any fat old wannabee athlete will do as so many boldly state.
As for the retired athletes, seems alot of the posters have never seen the HOF Induction Ceremony? These guys leave their parts all over the fields and not every player's a god damn millionaire. One bad apple ruins it for the bunch.
Mike Ditka's in favor of retired players healthcare, that says enough for me.


WELL SAID !!!




Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: July 6, 2011 10:01 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

you keep saying the modern era should be set i dont see players like terry bradshaw complaining or jim brown?.. these are players that took care of the little money that had and made it work for them. dez bryant been in the league a year and owes a jewelery store 870k?  there is your problem its not the owners being greedy its the players..  randy moss complained outta the 123 million he made last year he wanted the lock out to end so he can feed his family.??? in the same interview they asked him what he was doing later in the day he said he was going to play the slots.. how do u have money to play slots yet u need the lockout to end so u can feed ur family..? yeah ok.. then again the nflpa hired a lawyer to represent there union in desmith.. should have taken troy vincent.. this wouldnt have happened



Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: July 6, 2011 10:00 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

you keep saying the modern era should be set i dont see players like terry bradshaw complaining or jim brown?.. these are players that took care of the little money that had and made it work for them. dez bryant been in the league a year and owes a jewelery store 870k?  there is your problem its not the owners being greedy its the players..  randy moss complained outta the 123 million he made last year he wanted the lock out to end so he can feed his family.??? in the same interview they asked him what he was doing later in the day he said he was going to play the slots.. how do u have money to play slots yet u need the lockout to end so u can feed ur family..? yeah ok.. then again the nflpa hired a lawyer to represent there union in desmith.. should have taken troy vincent.. this wouldnt have happened



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 6, 2011 12:19 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

The only point I will add to the discussion is that some role players from 10- 20 years ago never made big money. Maybe they were in the league for 3-4 years but have damaged bodies due to the sport. 

What are you talking about man?  Give me one example of any other job on the planet where you work 3 or 4 years and get benefits for life?  WHY?  Did somebody force them to play football or something?  This whole discussion is getting dumber by the second... I can't beleve the things some people are saying.   There are people that work 100 times harder then NFL players in this world that don't get benefits for life.  There were people that spent 20 and 30 years working in tough environments ending up with cancer because of the chemicals they were breathing in but they don't have benefits.   But you want NFL players with 3 or 4 years in the league to be covered for life?  Almost EVERY SINGLE NFL PLAYER from back in the day could and should have worked a regular job when they were done, maybe they would have benefits today instead of whining and begging for bailouts.

 



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2011 8:51 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

The only point I will add to the discussion is that some role players from 10- 20 years ago never made big money. Maybe they were in the league for 3-4 years but have damaged bodies due to the sport.

These guys should have some ongoing support inthe form of health care etc.

Salaries are obscene today but it wasn't always like that.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 5, 2011 8:23 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

@footballforevah'

Let me make a million dollars over the next five years.  I'll use it to buy my own business and live comfortably for the rest of my life.  I will not use it to buy sports cars, hookers, and drugs.  See what I did there?

@ji2my22

How about the realization that I am paying hundreds of thousands of my hard earned dollars into a little something called Social Security that will all gone by the time I retire.  You mean that kind of ripped off?  the only thing I realize (and believe me I've learned the hard way) is that the only person responsible for taking care of ME is ME.  I am counting on nothing and no one else.

Beautiful post man.... kudos to you.  Give me one million dollars or even about 600 thousand dollars after tax every year for 5 years and I will do amazing things with that money.  My parents will live out the rest of their retirement comfortably, my kids will have a great start to their lives and my wife and I will never again struggle financially in any way, shape or form.  I wouldn't even think about owning a mansion and wouldn't take 2 looks at a sports car..... don't need it.  

Oh yeah... and I live in Canada where our Canada pension is very likely to disappear by the time I can use it.... nobody is going to give me a refund on my contributions either.... it kills me when people think players making millions of dollars to play a game are getting ripped off... it's a joke. 



Since: Nov 14, 2010
Posted on: July 5, 2011 7:41 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

As much as I want this lockout to end, it should include the participation of retired players.  Never forget what the pioneers of this game have done for where we are today.  Not only is the NFL a fine source of entertainment, but it provides a level of quality, competition, and intricacy that make it "America's Game."  So take care of the retired vets, they deseve it. 



Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: July 5, 2011 5:47 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

@footballforevah'

Let me make a million dollars over the next five years.  I'll use it to buy my own business and live comfortably for the rest of my life.  I will not use it to buy sports cars, hookers, and drugs.  See what I did there?

@ji2my22

How about the realization that I am paying hundreds of thousands of my hard earned dollars into a little something called Social Security that will all gone by the time I retire.  You mean that kind of ripped off?  the only thing I realize (and believe me I've learned the hard way) is that the only person responsible for taking care of ME is ME.  I am counting on nothing and no one else.




Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2011 3:50 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA



STOP comparing pro sports to ANY working stiffs job in America, the two are NOT comparable at all. It's a supply and demand business and only WINNING fills the seats and brings a Lombardi, not just any fat old wannabee athlete will do as so many boldly state.
As for the retired athletes, seems alot of the posters have never seen the HOF Induction Ceremony? These guys leave their parts all over the fields and not every player's a god damn millionaire. One bad apple ruins it for the bunch.
Mike Ditka's in favor of retired players healthcare, that says enough for me.


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