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Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Posted on: July 4, 2011 6:46 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2011 8:35 pm
 
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

As the NFL owners and the NFLPA prepare to return to the negotiating table after the three-day weekend, it seems their lives are doomed to become more complicated. That’s because the The New York Times is reporting that the group of retired players involved in the Brady v. NFL case is set to prepare a complaint against the players and owners.

From the Times:

The class-action complaint, to be filed in Federal District Court in Minneapolis against the teams, the league, the players named in the Brady v. N.F.L. lawsuit and DeMaurice Smith, the head of the N.F.L. Players Association, asserted that the sides were violating antitrust laws by negotiating settlement terms that improperly encompassed the rights of retired players in the time since the N.F.L.P.A. renounced its union status.

The complaint says that the current players and the association, along with the N.F.L., “are conspiring to depress the amounts of pension and disability benefits to be paid to former N.F.L. players in order to maximize the salaries and benefits to current N.F.L. players.”
And it says that while the N.F.L. is willing to commit additional money to retirees from within and outside the league’s salary cap, the union “has insisted that the sum within the salary cap be given to current players instead.”

The complaint will ask Judge Susan Nelson to issue an injunction to halt the talks between the owners and players regarding retired players’ benefits, and it asks for a declaration that the NFLPA cannot represent those retired players in a new CBA settlement or for other litigation.

Basically, the alumni want to represent themselves in these talks.

“We feel we have a seat at the table, but we’re having the chair pulled out from under us,” Michael Hausfeld, the lawyer representing retired players, told the paper. “Both sides are saying, ‘We’ll decide what’s in your best interests.’”

As the Times points out, though, Nelson might be reluctant to add a third party to the mix so late in the negotiations, partially because it seems like the two sides might be closing in on a solution and partially because bringing somebody else to the table might make matters much more complicated.

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Comments

Since: Apr 2, 2009
Posted on: July 5, 2011 3:37 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

well I think, the MODERN day player should be set for LIFE, just as most of you have stated. If they are not, it's their own fault in a lot of cases.(but not all, there are some min.wage players folks) But the big thing here, that it's those OLD players as you stated that didn't make the big bucks. They had a job in the OFF SEASON!. Those are the ones that should be taken care of, or better yet, NOT ripped off. I just hope all you younger guys realize that YOU are going to get old some day....:)




Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: July 5, 2011 3:13 pm
 

Old guys just shutup please

Retired. As in: no Longer employed by the NFL or a dues paying member of the NFLPA.  Let's see. Free college. Unworldly salary while employed as compared to anybody else.  Apparently unable to plan for your future with the FULL KNOWLEGE YOU COULDN"T PLAY FOREVER.  Retirees could use some help from today's players, yes. Is it "owed" to them? NO. Are the dunces not planning for tomorrow as we speak "owed" anything by tomorrow's players? NO. So I suggest the retirees who "sacrificed" by earnig 4 to 20 times the average American without taking responsibility for their own future humbly and gratefully accept what today's players miraculously obtain from the owners when they have NO OBLIGATION TO DO SO. (This message brought to you by Americans sick n tired of cleaning up the mess made by others too stupid to plan further ahead than tonights steak and lobster dinner).



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 5, 2011 3:05 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Didn't every one of these ex players come out of college, where they had a full ride scholarship? It seems to me that they got college given to them. They should have a degree. And they were paid very well for their services when they did actually play. It was up to them, just like it is up to us, to invest wisely and plan for our future. I have no sympathy for ex millionaires that squandered their money. Their playing days are done. Now go use hat college degree that the universities allowed you to get for free.

Yeah. Most of them had a free ride and a lot ended up with university degrees but they refuse to use them.  Instead they intruct their union to bark instructions to the owners demanding they are taken care of for life.  Worse yet is others came out early and didn't graduate, choosing instead to make millions faster then if they waited until graduation.  So these so called "star college athletes" choose the easy way, take the money and leave themselves no room for error.  When their career doesn't go as planned and/or when they are retired from the NFL and broke they go bankrupt because they don't have an alternative plan... no life beyond football.

Player supporters on these boards constantly remind us of how rich the owners are and how greedy they are. What they fail to understand is the owners were extremely wealthy before they ever bought an NFL franchise.  I don't care if they built their businesses or inherited them, what I know for sure if the players didn't contribute to their wealth outside of football.  And if the owners would have lost money all these years the players wouldn't have bailed them out... just because they've made money doesn't mean they owe a player that contributes to their life for 5 years another 50 years of benefits after they retire.

I can't understand the idea of a guy making millions getting free benefits for life.. can't wrap it around my head at all.  What makes me laugh even harder is idiots that talk about the guys that are "only" making 400 grand for a season.  They are "only" taking home a minimum of 250 grand for one year's work.... people feel sorry for them yet I would guess there isn't one person in this thread that grossed 400 grand last year.... I don't feel sorry for the idiots.  I don't even feel sorry for the guy that only played one season for that 400 grand. Take the net 250 thousand dollars, buy a house and maybe a decent car and go find a job like everybody else.  Find a job that pays well and provides medical benefits for life..... get lost. 



Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: July 5, 2011 1:22 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Didn't every one of these ex players come out of college, where they had a full ride scholarship? It seems to me that they got college given to them. They should have a degree. And they were paid very well for their services when they did actually play. It was up to them, just like it is up to us, to invest wisely and plan for our future. I have no sympathy for ex millionaires that squandered their money. Their playing days are done. Now go use hat college degree that the universities allowed you to get for free.



Since: Jul 28, 2007
Posted on: July 5, 2011 1:06 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

From the current players point of view..... why wouldn't they want to a slice of their pie goinig to the retired players?????? Their career will be short.  Some #s are as high as 78% of players going broke witihin 2 years of being out of the league.  Wouldn't it make sense for them to work out a deal through the cba that would ensure something for their own future?   It shows you how stupid and short sighted the players are. 

I laugh at these A holes.  These are the same jocks that were giving nerds wedgies in highschool.  Within in just a few short years after retireing from the NFL, a nerd making $30 K per year is in better shape then these NFLers are after retirement.

These jerks are good for my fantasy football team, that's it.  lol



Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2011 12:47 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Um, excuse me? Players whose careers ended 20-to-40 years ago are multi-millionaires, when the whole point of your post would seem to suggest the opposite?

A guy who played five years in the 1970s and earned, let's say, a million dollars over those five years probably doesn't have any of it left now unless he had a really good investment advisor and got into a well-paying profession after his playing days. The ones who went into business or broadcasting are doing well, especially if they have endorsement contracts on the side (Dan Dierdorf, for instance - he makes good money as a broadcaster and occasional TV pitchman). But the majority of retired players, the anonymous ones who didn't have the high profiles to be wooed right into a business partnership or a TV job, need the money.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 5, 2011 12:30 pm
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

While it is very easy to dislike the players, and they have shown a great deal of greed over the years, medical care is something the NFL should absolutely be 100% on the hook for.

Too bad you don't have the slightest understanding about how a business operates or we could actually chat about this a little longer.  You want the NFL to be 100 percent responsible for every past retiree as well as every single NFL player that ever plays this game for the rest of their lives?  Are you kidding me?  When does it end?  How many players can the league be responsible for and what's that number going to be 20 years from now?  What happens if revenues decrease and/or become stagnant over time?  What happens if insurance companies keep raising premiums?  You want the owners to end up personally bankrupt so the players don't have to live responsibly and save their own money?

Give me a break... 



Since: Apr 25, 2008
Posted on: July 5, 2011 11:52 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

The rich owners need to put some big money up to fund the pensions and other benefits for all these retired players.  A lot of these players are broke and need cash for their retirements.

So because the players did not manage their incomes properly and are now broke, they are entitled to additional payment from the owners?  Doesn't sound very American to me, then again, American is no longer a great country due to all these people that feel entitled to be handed money and benefits for doing nothing. 




Since: Mar 15, 2011
Posted on: July 5, 2011 11:15 am
 

Time to pay up!

The rich owners need to put some big money up to fund the pensions and other benefits for all these retired players.  A lot of these players are broke and need cash for their retirements.



Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2011 10:59 am
 

Report: Retirees to file suit vs NFL, NFLPA

Why doesn't their most recent employer pay for their benefits/pension?  If these guys retired in their 30's or younger - what have they been doing since then?


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