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Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

Posted on: July 18, 2011 9:50 pm
Edited on: July 18, 2011 9:54 pm
 


Posted by Ryan Wilson

It's no secret that the Arizona Cardinals are desperate to find a starting quarterback. After Kurt Warner retired following the 2009 season, the team decided to release former first-round pick Matt Leinart and take their chances with Derek Anderson, Max Hall and John Skelton. Head coach Ken Whisenhunt may not have thought enough of Leinart to keep him around but we can't imagine he would have performed worse than the three guys the Cards trotted out their in 2010.

Either way, as soon as the lockout ends, Arizona will move to find their next franchise QB. And according to the Arizona Republic's Kent Somers, the most likely target is a name we've heard often in recent months: Eagles backup Kevin Kolb.

"Look for the club to immediately attempt to trade for Eagles backup Kevin Kolb," Somers wrote Monday. "He is the first choice, but the Cardinals don’t want to give up a ransom for him. They also have interest in the BroncosKyle Orton, who is under contract. The path of least resistance would be to simply sign Marc Bulger, a free agent, and let John Skelton back him up."

Although he has little starting experience, Kolb will cost the most to acquire (more on that in a second). Meanwhile, NFL.com's Steve Wyche thinks that Orton, who has thrown for more than 7,000 yards the last two years in Denver, could be had for a third-rounder. As for Bulger, Mike Jurecki of XTRA 910 in Phoenix tweets that he "doesn't want to play in Arizona according to my source."

The Seahawks, another team in dire need of a quarterback, reportedly offered the Eagles a first- and third-round pick for Kolb earlier this offseason, which sounds unreasonably steep given that Kolb has started seven games in four seasons and has thrown three more picks (14) than touchdowns (11).

But it's all about upside. And NFL Films' Greg Cosell thinks that Kolb is "very, very good" with his first reads although he struggles when he is "forced to reset and look elsewhere."

This sounds like a lot of young NFL quarterbacks. While it's not a glowing endorsement, it could be much worse. Like, say, what Whisenhunt had to endure last season with Anderson, Hall and Skelton. The only question is how much will Arizona have to give up get Kolb. Which brings us back to XTRA 910's Mike Jurecki, who hears things: "Kevin Kolb is the guy, Cardinals are prepared to offer DRC straight up...according to source."

This isn't the first time a Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie for Kolb trade has made the rounds. In fact, CBSSport.com's Josh Katzowitz wrote about it last month. It seems like a long shot, but who knows, maybe it will allow the Cardinals to go after Ike Taylor. Then all that will be left to do is petition the league and officially change their name to Pittsburgh West.

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Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:41 pm
 

Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

If the Cardinals think Kolb is of such value that they are willing to trade two players plus a draft pick for him then that is the going price.
If the Cardinals think Kolb is of such value that they give up even close to that much, then our front office is retarded beyond belief. DRC for Kolb straight up is bad enough as it is. You don't make it worse by giving the Eagles more. The deal already favors the Eagles. To make the deal fair, a draft pick would have to be coming Arizona's way, and a good draft pick, too.



Since: Apr 13, 2009
Posted on: July 19, 2011 1:09 pm
 

Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

I'll take Kyle Orton, please.



Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: July 19, 2011 1:07 pm
 

Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

What make a deal or sale is what a willing buyer is willing to pay to a willing seller for the product or services that are rendered.

If the Cardinals think Kolb is of such value that they are willing to trade two players plus a draft pick for him then that is the going price.

Kolb is relative young an could be the answer to the quarterback situation for 5 years or more. If that is the case then perhaps the deal is not all that bad.

Then every now and then you would have to gamble on the fact that someone would work out for your team. Draft picks are such gambles. Look at the first round draft picks of quarterbacks running backs and Heisman Trophy winners have been a bust.

Kolb does have a little experience and would probably be the starter for the Eagles if Vick had not had the season he had.

In the thinking of the Cardinals they might be better off with Kolb. I am sure they have decided that if they get him they have the system that would make him a success, or build a system around him that would fit his strengths.

 
“FIGHT ON”





Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 19, 2011 12:17 pm
 

Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

Don't forget when Rodgers was backing up Favre in Greenbay NOT EVEN ONE person on these boards or even one writer out there was predicting Rodgers would put up the numbers he put up and do the things he's done including win a superbowl like he did.

That's not true, actually. First, I thought Green Bay did the right thing when they got rid of Favre from the beginning, and I said it multiple times. After Favre beat the Packers twice, I still said the Packers were vindicated because Rodgers had outplayed Favre both times. But that comparison doesn't work anyway because Aaron Rodgers was drafted by the Packers. They didn't have to give up a pick or a player to land him, he was already there. To get Kolb, the Cardinals will have to give up a king's ransom.

Any potential "upside" from Kolb is not worth setting our team back in other positions. I prefer Orton. He comes cheaper and he's on the same level. I don't believe Kolb is anything special, or the Eagles would hang on to him. In a year, we'd have to pay Kolb a huge extension. I'd rather sign Orton to a two or three-year deal and have him mentor our next quarterback that we'll get after this ugly season.

That qb caroussel they had going on was embarassing for God sakes...  two of the qb's they used were undrafted young players...they won't let that happen again.

Pity. Letting it happen again now is our best chance to win in the future. Andrew Luck's out there, and all he'll cost is this season, which we were never going to be competitive in anyway...with or without a quarterback. Plan A for me is Orton. Plan B is Skelton/Hall. I will be very ticked off if we acquire Kolb, especially if we give up DRC for him and get nothing else back.




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 19, 2011 11:32 am
 

Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

Matt Cassel started for an entire season and was only worth a second round pick (plus the Patriots threw in Mike Vrabel). But Kolb has only started 7 games and is worth a 1st and 3rd? Seems like a very high price for an unproven QB.

I know that Kolb is unproven, I can't argue that point.  But as a big NFL fan that's followed this game religiously for a very long time there is no comparison in my opinion between Kolb and Cassel.   Until Brady got hurt I believe the last time Cassel was a starting quarterback was highschool....  He did well on a great Pats team with great coaching and a system in place that didn't allow him to fail.   I'll take Kolb over Cassel every day of the week and wouldn't even spend 5 seconds thinking about it. 



Since: Jun 20, 2011
Posted on: July 19, 2011 10:55 am
 

Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

Matt Cassel started for an entire season and was only worth a second round pick (plus the Patriots threw in Mike Vrabel). But Kolb has only started 7 games and is worth a 1st and 3rd? Seems like a very high price for an unproven QB.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 19, 2011 10:13 am
 

Report: Cards will go after Kolb, could trade DRC

I meant to say they would be paying Kolb 1.4 million dollars this season, not Orton... sorry about that. 


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