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Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

Posted on: July 26, 2011 10:23 am
 
Posted by Will Brinson

The NFL's trading season, per the official 2011 NFL calendar, officially opened at 10:00 a.m. ET on Tuesday. But there are already some names (Kevin Kolb!) on the trading block; go ahead and add Kyle Orton of the Broncos to that list.

That's because the Broncos reportedly put Orton up on the block, per Mike Klis of the Denver Post. Klis writes that Denver will "begin the business" of the NFL's season by putting his name out there and will be "entertaining offers for Orton" per sources.

However, Klis doesn't necessarily mention precisely what the Broncos would want in return -- we've previously heard they think he's worth a second-rounder -- but he does say if they don't get the proper value in return they won't bite.

In other words, despite the fact that Tim Tebow's been organizing workouts with receivers this offseason, and despite the reports that the starting quarterback job is "his to lose," well, he's probably still going to end up competing with Orton up until the start of the year. (And, yes, technically Brady Quinn.)

There's definitely a market for quarterbacks out there, but two things really pop out about the way Denver is handling this situation. One, even in Madden, players aren't thrilled with their front office when they're publicly lobbed on the trade market like a piece of meat. And while I understand Denver is all about transparency and yet hasn't said that they'll trade him, come on -- you don't publicly shop a guy for mediocre value and then expect him to come back and be all smiles and sunshine.

Secondly, everyone realizes this is John Fox coaching this club right? John Elway might be in charge of the player and personnel moves, but if we're talking about a Fox-coached football team, you have to remember that this is going to be a run-first, keep-it-safe offense.

And while Tebow might very well be able to play the role of game manager for Foxy, it would be somewhat surprising to see the coach entrust his first year on the job to someone so young.

That being said, if the Broncos can find someone willing to give up a second-round pick for Orton, Fox may not have a choice.

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Comments

Since: Nov 22, 2009
Posted on: July 28, 2011 10:38 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

You have no idea! Orton has gotten better every year. He wins and takes care of the ball. He has thrown more TDs that interceptions in all but his first year, rookie...Led Bears to playoffs and yanked for Grossman. I think if they would have yanked Rex in the second half for Orton he might have been able to beat the Colts? IMO...Grossman was saked for huge losses effectively killing the Bears. He is like most of these guys in the NFL. Give him time and he can win. Pressure him and mistakes happen. I think Elway wants to rid himself of Tebow and this may be a sure way to do it?



Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 4:11 pm
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

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I will give you Kolb and Cutler, Kolb is not experienced (even though I personally believe that he is much better than Orton) and Cutler appears to have a serious attitude problem, which isn't worth the trouble. 

The rest, not so much in agreement, here's what I think.

Hasselbeck, he is old, but he isn't 40.  He's 35, coming off an injury, leaving a team that didn't want him, so now he has something to prove.  He knows how to play the game and he's an outspoken leader, he's a guy that seems to be able to inspire.  Good fit for a young team.

Manning, not much to look at, but he is a good leader.  He has won the big game, which is something, and he play's in one of the most scrutinizing cities in the league and is successful at it. 

Romo, despite having a poor playoff record (he at least has one), he is a much more talented QB.  His injury last season is of little concern and his work ethic to recover and return should be the major focal point.  Easy comparison, Drew Brees had similar injury to throwing arm and returned to be top passer for another team.

Cassel, going on his third year as a starter, not his second.  He played very well for NE as the starter, going 11-5 in his first year at the helm.  Went to a new city and system in KC and went 10-6.  Seems like he has proven himself already to me.  2 years, 2 different systems, 2 winning records, kind of QB people would be happy with.

Palmer, is "retiring" from playing with the Bengals, but sounds like it's more of a hold-out to come back next year and force Cincy's hand via inflated salary next year and get out of Dodge.  Bengals are childish and stubborn for not trading him and in the end will get way less next year than they could this year for a talented QB.  While we most likely won't see him this season, pretty sure he isn't done.  I would gladly take a chance on Tebow for one year, then make a move for Palmer next year before I hung onto someone that I didn't see a future with, kind of like Orton.

Freeman, I do not agree with this one, he has one good year under his belt.  If you omit Kolb and Cassel, then Freeman is definitely on the omission list.  I may change this after a second strong year, but not yet.

Sanchez, no way would I want this guy over Orton.  If the Jets had Orton, Rex would have likely had his pre-season predictions come true.  With Sanchez, there's no way that's going to happen.  His numbers compared to Orton's are awful.  He can't make the outs that a good NFL QB needs to be able to make.  He made his name at a school that was built to win championships in USC and the hype on this guy is waaaaaaay to high for his skill level.  The Jets would be scary with almost anyone else at the helm, including Orton, but as long as Sanchez is there, they aren't as scary as they should be.



Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 9:53 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

This is a no-brainer for me.  You trade Orton and start Tebow.  If Tebow can play that's great and you have your QB situation solved for the next 8+ years or so.  If he falters and the Broncos go 3-13, so what.  Your reward for that is drafting Andrew Luck #1 overall and having your QB situation solved for the next 10+ years or so.  Either way it's a win for the Broncos.  Let's face it, the defense is not ready yet anyway to make a serious run at the playoffs.  This team is one or two years away from being a legit contender so why not sacrifice one season to improve your chances for the foreseeable future.  Besides, it's not like Broncos fans aren't going to show up for a year of Tim Tebow.  Jersey sales alone from last year tell you that this is what they want to see.

Kyle Orton is not a winner anyway.  Most of his numbers were put up in "garbage time" when the team was behind and he was forced to pass over and over.  The Broncos won't miss him at all.
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Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: July 27, 2011 9:48 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

Kyle Orton already had Brandon Marshall to throw to.  It's not like Orton was better with him.



Since: Apr 30, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 6:17 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

OH i forgot one thing, kyle Orton would have some very talented receivers to throw to as well. I think Brandon Marshall and Kyle Orton would be one of the best QB TO receiver duo in the league, plus Devon Bess would take a lot of pressure of Orton as well. There are others to be sure but, just wanted to throw that in as well.

      
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Since: Apr 30, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 6:12 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

@ tonycash, Well you are wrong at point 1,2 and 3. At least you are consistent,Kyle Orton has not had an offensive line to protect him, ever. Orton also has had no receivers to throw too of any consequence.

Kyle Orton has always played on crap teams and i mean that in the crappiest way. I am also a big time Dolphins fan, always have been since there has been a Dolphin franchise. I would love to see him with the Fins it would be the best offensive line he has ever played behind to date.

It would also be the best running game he has played with ever. Also i see a much improved Dolphins defense developing for this season, so i think Kyle Orton would be a very good fit in the Dolphins organization. I hope they pick him up, a second rounder would be a steal for Orton.

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Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:51 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

Good for Kyle Orton that he is on the trading block because Orton must be dancing right now knowing that he does not have to be with that awful team of the Broncos or there fans in Denver every again hopefully. Good luck to you Orton because now you can become a winner finally. Lot's hope for Orton's sake that he lands with the Cards if the Cards don't get Kevin Kolb first of course or at least Miami next.



Since: Mar 1, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 12:49 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

TonyCash,
      
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p;  Ask any coach in the leagueif they would take 11-17 with that awful Broncos team. I would. He has never had a team of offensive players to protect him, or that he could throw to. That is what makes his winning record and his stats so incredible, but it also what makes those who don't use their heads to interpret stats under-rate or trash him. Yes, his number are average to just above average. BUT, because his teams were really bad offensively, average to above average would be great elsewhere. Save this post. If Orton goes somewhere with an O-line, a running game, and some decent receivers, Orton will rock that team to the playoffs and be a threat. He is a gamer, tough, and will never quit. Watch some games of his last year. He single handedly carried the team. Check his fantasy points; he was money. BUT, you are all correct; he needs to leave Denver now for a multitude of reasons. The organization has publicly shown they lost faith in him, so he may not be the same, & they spent so much money and a 1st rounder that they need to see what they have.

Good luck Kyle. I will make money off you this year. Good luck Broncos; I love ya, but you are going to need it.



Since: Mar 1, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 12:32 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

Lotusmaglite,
      
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sp; Read two of your posts; absolutely bang on. Orton was the offense. he had to throw 40-60 times a game because the running game would get 12 yards on 15 rushes. There were a couple games where he was THE ENTIRE OFFENSE. He even had about 60 yards rushing in 1 game last year, along with 350 passing. He is a great QB in my opinion, who has always been under-rated and never had any help. The division winner of NFC West is whoever signs Orton first; I will bet large on it.



Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: July 27, 2011 12:25 am
 

Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

All Orton does is win??? He's 32-29 (11-17 with Denver) lifetime as a starter. Seems like all he is does is win about half the time. And the Bears won games with D back then, their offense was awful.


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