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Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Posted on: July 26, 2011 1:15 pm
Edited on: July 26, 2011 2:39 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



Two of the biggest offseason storylines this year -- the actual lockout notwithstanding -- were the respective sagas of Carson Palmer and Kevin Kolb, both quarterbacks under team control through 2011.

Kolb appears to be moving on via trade (though as Clark Judge noted, it's not "imminent") and it sure does look like Palmer's gone too -- Bengals owner Mike Brown reiterated on Tuesday that he is absolutely not going to bother trying to get anything of value of Palmer and will instead let him ride off into a youthful millionaire's sunset.

"I honesty like Carson Palmer. He was a splendid player for us," Brown said, via Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. "He is a good person. I wish him well and he has retired. That is his choice."
End of the Line for Palmer?

Yes. Yes it technically is Palmer's choice. And there's an argument to be made that Palmer is shirking his commitment. Mike Brown is making that argument.

"I'm not expecting him to be back. Carson signed a contract, he made a commitment," Brown continued. "He gave us his word. We relied on his word and his commitment. We expected him to perform here. If he is going to walk away from his commitment we aren’t going to reward him for doing it."

That is a very firm stance to take in this situation.

Unfortunately, it doesn't really qualify as "impressively strong" or "morally inflexible."

Instead, it's probably closer to "stupidly stubborn." If the Bengals traded Palmer -- and they absolutely could trade Palmer and get good value for him at this stage of things -- would the Bengals be harmed in any particular way?

No, no they would not, because they would acquire something in return for Palmer that would benefit the organization -- and the fans! -- over the long term.

Instead, they're going to let Palmer just walk away because he's sick of playing for the organization that treats its employees -- and its fans! -- in this way despite having just gotten through the longest work stoppage in history?

Yes, that's a much smarter move than trying to build for the future.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 9:45 pm
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'



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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 28, 2011 11:27 pm
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Great logic.  Lets keep a player that doesn't want to play here....and let him retire.  Or we could trade him and get back a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.  Brilliant!  THese bungles are a joke.

It's fantastic logic !!  Finally, I said FINALLY an owner stood his ground.  The CBA is plain and simple enough even morons can understand it.  A player agrees to a deal with a team.  So many dollars over so many years with x guaranteed.  The player's job is to play out the entire contract, if he doesn't he remains property of the team.  In return if a player that signs a deal with a 5 or 10 or 20 million dollar signing bonus sucks ass or gets hurt early in the agreement he gets to keep the money and the owner is obligated to pay out whatever is left of the guaranteed money.  If there is no guaranteed money left, the owner can cut the player and he becomes an UFA.

Carson Palmer has 3 years left on the deal he signed.  He can either play or retire.... he chose to retire.  Adios .... see ya.... byebye !!!!

For once an owner had the balls to make an example of somebody.  I pray to God that doesn't change and he lets Palmer rot at home... 



Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: July 28, 2011 1:19 pm
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Great logic.  Lets keep a player that doesn't want to play here....and let him retire.  Or we could trade him and get back a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.  Brilliant!  THese bungles are a joke.



Since: Dec 17, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 9:11 pm
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

That's why the Bengals and each one of their fans are complete jokes and will always be.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 27, 2011 9:05 pm
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Owners should not have ultimate control over these players, if they want to leave because you can't bring in the right tools to win, then why should players have to suffer.

You're a funny guy.  So you want the owners to honor contracts but for the players to have a right to walk whenever they want to walk?

I can tell ( and pray to God) that you're a fairly young man because what you just suggested should happen not only doesn't make any business sense but would destroy the NFL completely.   First of all the league would immediately go from about 30 teams to no more then 15 or 20 teams because good or great players would only want to play for a "winner".  You would have a few stacked teams and everybody else wouldn't have a chance to win anything.  Fans would stop going to games soon after and would stop following the NFL.  Those teams would disappear quickly.  Less teams = less revenue, not good for the players or owners.   And even the teams left would immediately refuse to allow big contracts and signing bonuses in deals because a player could walk whenever they feel like walking.  

This is a league that grossed over 9 billion dollars just last season alone.  They didn't get there thinking like you do.  



Since: Mar 6, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 7:56 pm
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Owners should not have ultimate control over these players, if they want to leave because you can't bring in the right tools to win, then why should players have to suffer.  Palmer will be the next Barry Sanders, though not as good, and leave because owners think they know football.  Same problem in Oakland, owner thinks he knows football.  News Flash you both are idiot owners1



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 27, 2011 7:42 pm
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Has Mr. Brown ever cut a player before his contract was up? Was his signature on said contract not a commitment? I'm guessing that Mr. Brown has cut a player and thus not fulfilled his side of more than a few commitments. So, Mr. Brown is a "Do as I say, not as I do." kinda boss. Good to know. All hail, leader of the now and forever Bungals of Cincinnati.

Pen15, you sir are a MORON.   Mr Brown and every other NFL owner honor EVERY SINGLE DIME of GUARANTEED MONEY in a deal and follow the rules as determined by a CBA the players put their signature on.   Cutting a player is not illegal or against the rules.  There is nothing illegal or immoral about it... it's allowed as per the CBA .....  

On the other hand a player CAN'T change his mind in the middle of a contract, once again the CBA says so.  End of story. All done !!!

Retiring is not illegal.  Carson Palmer retired.... see ya later.  Bye ! 



Since: Aug 21, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 9:17 am
 

Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Good riddance Carson! It was fun while it lasted...thanks for taking us to that next level :)



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