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Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

Posted on: August 9, 2011 12:47 pm
Edited on: August 10, 2011 5:40 am
 
JohnsonPosted by Josh Katzowitz

With the new CBA rules stipulating that if holdouts don’t show up by August 9 they would lose a year of accrued free agency, that clause hasn’t stopped Titans RB Chris Johnson from not showing up for practice Tuesday.

Which means that Johnson loses his year. Which also means that it’s pretty clear Johnson doesn’t care about it -- unlike, say, Eagles WR DeSean Jackson, who reported Monday so he wouldn’t lose the season.

But as ESPN.com points out, Johnson probably isn’t worried about his free agent status because, assuming Johnson gets the long-term deal that he wants, the year he’s losing won’t matter at all.

The problem with Johnson’s approach, though, is that the Titans have been pretty clear that they won’t negotiate with Johnson if he’s not in camp. Johnson is set to make a base salary of $800,000 this year and $2.21 million for 2012 (he did get a nice pay raise to convince him to report last season), but since he’s in the absolute prime of his career (for a RB, anyway), Johnson feels like this is the time he needs to get paid.

And he’s probably right about that, though whether it’s a good idea to give a RB the $30 million guaranteed contract Johnson said last year that he feels he deserves isn’t so clear cut. But Johnson is also correct in thinking that Tennessee will get a hell of a deal to pay him only $3 million for the final two years of his contract and that the Titans need to up the ante in order to make happy one of the best runners in the league.

And if the Titans thought they had any kind of leverage over Johnson in the accrued free agency deadline, it looks like that notion was incorrect.

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Since: Aug 6, 2011
Posted on: August 9, 2011 9:37 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

i never thought about it that way, the players do get there guaranteed money. even before that great point i never understood players holding out or complaining about there deal.....U GET PAID TO PLAY A GAME! u wanna hear about not fair i had to go to college and actually had to do the work and ill never see millions of guaranteed money. this crap that people keep saying "its not fair owners expect players to honor contracts when they dont" is exactly that CRAP! owners own and players should just play i bet its been years since an nfl player just sat back and realized how lucky he is to get paid millions to play a game. kind of sad really.



Since: Jul 29, 2007
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:57 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

you are missing my point completely. i am NOT saying that CJ should get an extension or that he should fullfill his current deal. you should just be able to SEE both parties points of view, whether or not you agree. these situations are the business side of the NFL & most fans dont want to be bothered with the business end. we just want to watch the game




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:46 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

 When a player underperforms or succoms to injury the team may choose to terminate the remaining length of the player's contract. However, the team ALWAYS honors the binding factors of the contract & the player always recieves the guaranteed money.

Exactly. So when you say CJ should get an early extension you're saying good players should get early renewals but bad players should still get every nickel of their guaranteed money.

Gotcha ! That amost makes sense. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:43 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

Also I thought you were on this guy's side for being underpaid.  I know there was one player, was it Forte? 

Yes it was Forte but I believe he's in camp if I remember correctly.  And I wouldn't be opposed to CJ getting an early extension if that's what the team wants to do but I don't support anybody that doesn't show up to camp and that doesn't honor their deal.

When that happens they just cut the player and are no longer on the hook for the rest of the contract. 

That's not true at all man, where do you get your lousy information?  If a player still has guaranteed money left on his deal he gets every penny of it..... ALL OF IT.  Why do you think the Raiders hung onto Jamarcus Russell for so long?  They did because he was guaranteed 35 million dollars before they could let him go, either way they had to pay him.   Don't tell me NFL players aren't guaranteed any money. NFL starters that you and I watch every week are guaranteed plenty of money in their deals, look it up.  Go to rotoworld.com and punch in any players name and then click on salary.  You'll learn a lot.

You can bitch and whine as much as you want about "honoring" a contract, but good businessmen and financially savvy people simply do not do so.  The law is specifically designed to encourage efficient breaches, such as here.

What part of THE PLAYERS AND THEIR UNION SIGNED A CBA THAT SPELLS ALL THIS OUT don't you understand? In this case it has nothing to do with law, it has everything to do with the CBA.   If the players want all contracts 100 percent guaranteed they should have fought for that.  And even now nothing stops a player from asking for a 100 percent guaranteed deal or even an 80 or 90 percent guarantee to a deal.  Players get it all the time.  Kolb is in the 2nd and final year of a 100 percent guaranteed deal.... 
 



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:36 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

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Since: Jul 29, 2007
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:35 pm
 

business as usual

There are 2 sides to this story- (1) CJ signed the deal, he should honor the contract. (2) CJ has outplayed his contract, the Titans should redo his deal. One need not to agree with either angle to understand them both. As fans we love our favorite players, teams, & above all the game. We are consumed by the game as we feed our hunger of personal gratification. A professional football player is just that, a professional. Playing football is his job. When a player underperforms or succoms to injury the team may choose to terminate the remaining length of the player's contract. However, the team ALWAYS honors the binding factors of the contract & the player always recieves the guaranteed money. When a player feels he is underappreciated he will generally seek to renegociate his contract. If the player & team can not come to terms the player sometimes chooses to "holdout". The average NFL career is between 2-3 years & all players are just one play away from their last play. For these very reasons players must market themselves accordingly (by all means necessary, even if it means "holding out") & owners wish for players to "live out" their contracts. Ofcourse CJ wants to play this year & the Titans desperately need his services. Wants & needs will not get you to gameday but money will. Say CJ plays this season under his current terms & in week 10 dislocates his hip. The Titans can release him & not have to pay a penny of his $2.21 million salary for 2012. The Titans come out on top of this scenario, so to speak. On the other hand, say CJ signs a new deal for 6 years/$50 million with $30 million guaranteed. Same injury occurs & CJ's career is over. CJ walks away with his 30 million guaranteed dollars while leaving 5 years on the table. Only ignorance can prevent you from seeing both ends of the spectrum. Let us all remember, the NFL is first & foremost a business. $o don't hate the player, hate the game.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:34 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

No true. Barry Sanders NEVER considered playing anywhere else for even a second. His only goal was to spend time with family and take care of his church.  People like to believe he left the Lions because he didn't want to play in Detroit because people on these boards don't understand what a family is all about...... Barry Sanders proved what a great person he is by choosing his family over a sport.  He earned his money and that was it.... good for him. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:31 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

 The Titans at any time during Chris Johnson's "contract" could have cancelled the contract for any number of reasons and cut Chris Johnson.  Yet for some unknown reason the players are never afforded this lopsided luxury.  If you were to be a true man and value honesty, one would think you would have made this point and made the argument that Johnson and all players should be afforded the same option, which is to negate the contract when the value of the contract is not to proportion.


You make stupid comments like that and you insult me in the same post?  An NFL owner is obligated to pay EVERY PENNY OF THE GUARANTEED MONEY OF A CONTRACT.  Doesn't matter if a player is injured or anything else.  Heck, Stallworth got arrested and then suspended for the entire season only a couple weeks after collecting a 3 million dollar signing bonus and didn't have to pay one nickel back.   The non guaranteed portion is not guaranteed as per the CBA.... the owners can cut anybody if there are no guaranteed dollars left.

You say i'm not a true man and I don't value honesty because the NFLPA CHOSE TO SIGN A CONTRACT THAT OBLIGATES PLAYERS TO PLAY OUT EVERY DEAL BUT LET'S OWNERS OUT WHEN GUARANTEED MONEY IS DONE?  How is that my fault?  Why would I cheer for something the union never even fought for?  Why would I care to do this for them?

Finally, shithead, tell me what you think when a player gets a 10 million dollar signing bonus and sucks for years after? Should the team get the money back? What about Jamarcus Russell idiot?  Did he earn 35 million dollars in guaranteed checks he received?  Do YOU want YOUR TEAM to hold onto a crap player that hurts your team and keep playing him because they can't get out of the agreement?  Of course you don't......  you only care right now because you wish you were in CJ's pants... 


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Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: August 9, 2011 8:13 pm
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Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: August 9, 2011 7:41 pm
 

Chris Johnson still hasn't reported to camp

Your response is ill informed and narrow sighted.  If you think Johnson should be honoring his contract then you know nothing about professional sports and should continue with your other hobbies instead of commenting on a sports chat board.  The Titans at any time during Chris Johnson's "contract" could have cancelled the contract for any number of reasons and cut Chris Johnson.  Yet for some unknown reason the players are never afforded this lopsided luxury.  If you were to be a true man and value honesty, one would think you would have made this point and made the argument that Johnson and all players should be afforded the same option, which is to negate the contract when the value of the contract is not to proportion.


Chris Johnson is exercising a player's only option when it come to an ill proportioned contract.  He is holding out.  If this were from the teams point of view and they viewed Johnson's value as being ill proportioned to the amount of money they would have to pay out on his contract they would cut him.  I'm disgusted by your cookie cutter response regarding a "twisted arm" when in the same breath you invoke honesty.  If you're going to talk honesty then where is your sentence saying that owners should be paying out the contracts they sign instead of cutting productive players? 

Stay off the boards amateur, you're stinking them up.  



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