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Don't ask Orton about his relationship with Tebow

Posted on: August 18, 2011 4:34 pm
Posted by Ryan Wilson

The Broncos host the Bills Saturday in their second game of the preseason, and as has been the case for almost the entirety of training camp, Kyle Orton will likely be the starting quarterback. Orton gives Denver the best chance to win now, although this doesn't preclude Tim Tebow from maturing into a capable NFL quarterback down the road.

(Obviously, ESPN analyst Merril Hoge disagrees with this, but then again, he also thought Brian Brohm would be a better NFL QB than Aaron Rodgers. The takeaway: you can't predict everything; at some point you have to let guys prove they can't play. And while Tebow isn't better than Orton, he'll probably get a shot to be an NFL starter at some point in his career.)

For now, though, it's Orton's job. And while he's happy to talk about the mundane -- what training camp has been like, when things really started clicking for him, the burden of being called a "game manager", etc… -- Orton wanted no part of a discussion involving The Backup Who Shan't Be Named. Here's his response to a seemingly innocuous question about how much coaching and mentoring Orton does with Tim Tebow (via Sports Radio Interviews):

Can Tebow make it as an NFL QB?

“I don’t do any coaching, I take coaching," he said. "I’m a very coachable player so I take coaching. … I’ll answer any questions that anybody’s got and Tim’s asked me a lot of questions this camp. I’ve been there and can answer them for him and I’ll ask questions of Brady and he’ll ask questions of me. I think we’ve got a good quarterback group. I think a lot of the stuff is overblown. I don’t live any relationship through the media, so people want to come out and [ask], ‘How’s your relationship, how’s this?’ That’s nobody’s business but our own.”

That response is usually reserved for inquiries about a player's private life. In Orton's case, his relationship with a teammate is also nobody's business.

Fair enough. And truthfully, it's the right thing to say if for no other reason than to discourage others from asking it, too (although we doubt it will).

Orton has stated previously that "My first goal is to win over my teammates, to win over my coaches, and I think I'm well on my way to doing that. … My last goal playing quarterback is to win over the fans." And we believe him. Orton doesn't appear to care what fans or media think. And perceptions in August don't mean much anyway. If the Broncos win, Orton will be popular. If they don't, the calls for Tebow will intensify.

Either way, Orton ain't talking about it.

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Since: Jul 18, 2008
Posted on: August 25, 2011 12:07 am

Don't ask Orton about his relationship with Tebow

Orton has a losing record as an NFL QB...enough said!

Since: Aug 23, 2011
Posted on: August 24, 2011 3:55 am

Don't ask Orton about his relationship with Tebow

If Orton doesnt like the title of game manager then he needs to grow a new arm that is able to through the ball down field. His completion rating and quarterback rating are based on short throws which tend to be a little easier to complete. He tends to be in my opinion too conservative with the ball. While I believe Orton is one of the more consistant quarterbacks in the game today This also makes him very predictable and easy to defend. Denver needs to find a way to establish a deep threat down field. In todays game it is the ability to create the big play down field coupled with consistant short field play that produces championship teams. While Tebow does not have the consistancy Orton has he brings the possibility of the BIG PLAY. John Elway, Peyton Manning, Brett and all the other greats had these abilities. Use it or lose it rings true here. I would hate to see Denver Lose the opportunity to develope a new franchise quarterback <Tebow>
because of short sighted coaches not willing to invest game time in a young player. Tebow will be a starter somewhere. I just hope he is given an opportunity in Denver before its too late. As far as being asked by the media about his relationship with Tebow. Proffesional football is a very public game. This indeed makes his relationship with Tebow and any other player on the team of interest to the fans,
No ones asking if he washes Tebows back in the shower. They just want to know how the players mesh. You really cant fault the media for asking questions like these. The fans are interested in this type of thing and lets remember if it werent for the fans and the money they spend Orton wouldnt get a paycheck.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: August 19, 2011 1:28 am

Don't ask Orton about his relationship with Tebow

jesus cant we just get a trade done and get him the hell out of denver.  SF is bringing in Daunte? Cmon orton is an upgrade over Daunte. has Miami seen thier qb play? Cmon, Orton is all star caliber, come get him.

Since: Apr 10, 2008
Posted on: August 19, 2011 1:05 am

Don't ask Orton about his relationship with Tebow

"Orton gives Denver the best chance to win now..." This is a statement I read everywhere and has been repeated so much it's like gospel. But is it? How does Orton give Denver the best chance to win now?  The team's 3rd down numbers when Orton started and when Tebow started last year are virtually the same. Orton is awful in the red zone (43% completions) and late in games.

Saw this on another blog:

"In 5 out of Orton's last 8 games, he threw for less than 220 yards. 220 yards in a pass happy offense is nothing. They lost 7 of those games.

In his last 2 games of 2010, Orton was 28 for 69, 283 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT. I

n Orton's 13 starts last year, they scored more than 3 TD's 3 times.

In Tebow's 3 starts, they scored 3 TD's twice. Same personnel, same system and the "veteran" does it 3 out of 13. The rookie does it 2 out of 3."

Those stats have nothing to do with Defense. Anyone who is watching Orton play knows he does NOT give that team a chance to win.

The good news for Kyle is that if he wanted to get an endorsement deal out of his comments the last couple of weeks, Massengill could use a good pitch person.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: August 18, 2011 7:42 pm

Don't ask Orton about his relationship with Tebow

Orton's comments all make sense to me.  He's right - he's not the coach.  His job is to make himself the best quarterback he can, getting all the repetitions and game preparation he can.  He's doing the right thing as a teammate by answering (and asking) questions of the other quarterbacks, but this isn't some old geezer brought in as a player-coach to mentor a young guy.  There's competition for the petition among what look to all be good guys, and they owe it to themselves to spend their time preparing. 

By repeating asking the same useless question, the media forces Orton to look like he's ready to accept the bench or like he's a bad teammate.  He had a great answer here that avoided both, but fans and media will certainly pigeonhole him into one of those soon enough.  Kind of like when the Packers had Favre and brought in Rogers.  Even by Rodgers' accounts, Favre was never a bad guy to him - he just didn't go out of his way to mentor him, which again makes sense since Favre was a starting NFL QB.  Now everyone paints Favre as a bad teammate for not handing the reins to Rodgers.

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