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John Fox: Kyle Orton to be Broncos starter

Posted on: August 22, 2011 3:36 pm
Edited on: August 22, 2011 3:39 pm
 
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

So much for Tim Tebow as the Broncos starting quarterback. So much for Denver trying to trade away Kyle Orton. While perhaps those were decisions former coach Josh McDaniels would have made, those scenarios didn’t interest John Fox.

Which is why he told reporters today, via the Denver Post, that Orton will be his starting quarterback for Week 1 of the regular season.

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This shouldn’t be a huge surprise, because it’s been clear since the first practice of training camp that Orton was many levels ahead of Tim Tebow when it came to performing as a legit starting NFL quarterback (and, you know, when Fox called Tebow “a work in progress,” that wasn’t great news for him either). In the second preseason game, Orton completed 10 of 13 passes to seal his spot.

Meanwhile, Fox said he wasn’t going to name a second-string quarterback any time soon, though it’s clear that it very well could be Brady Quinn, who played well in the second preseason game after he replaced Orton.

Another sign that Quinn could be No. 2 was when the Denver Post’s Jeff Legwold wrote, “The feeling is that if Orton got injured in a regular-season game, it would be Quinn who would go in for him because of his experience. Quinn has shown big-time improvement over last season when previous coach Josh McDaniels rarely worked him in practices -- Quinn called 2010 a 'very, very tough year' -- and may have the most raw arm strength of any Broncos quarterback."

For now, it seems like Tebow has fallen to third on the depth chart, and he’s got many miles to go to catch Orton.

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Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:56 pm
 

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Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: August 24, 2011 3:03 pm
 

John Fox: Kyle Orton to be Broncos starter

By you bringing up the fact that he put himself out there in a divisive issue and saying he should apologize to the ladies, you were basically inferring that he was wrong to do that...
Again, no. I don't have to make a value judgment about the rightness or wrongness of Tebow's actions to point out the hypocrisy of a commenter. You can take all the time out you want, but you're not going to force this straw man on me.
Since you have no interest in engaging me, instead preferring your straw man, I will leave the two of you alone together.



Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: August 24, 2011 12:07 pm
 

John Fox: Kyle Orton to be Broncos starter

Time to ease out of this useless argument.

Too many assumptions and arguments being based on part of my quote such as the very top one. You conveniently skipped the part about you saying you never said anything about being right wrong. By you bringing up the fact that he put himself out there in a divisive issue and saying he should apologize to the ladies, you were basically inferring that he was wrong to do that, but you skip around and leave part of my quote out instead of admit you really meant he was wrong even though you did not type the exact words "right or wrong."

Secondly, when in my posts did I ever proclaim to be a Christian. You must have assumed that I was, because I stand up against people who bash them. Probably the same way I assumed you were against Xtians as you call them, because of all your negative remarks about Christians.

I actually did get your sarcasm and was just being sarcastic back, but again you love to call people dumb, stupid, childish or whatever if they use sarcasm as you do.


Had fun and again Websters and other dictionaries do have more than one definition for crush or crushing, but since you may not have access to educational materials. I meant you were being very critical or denigrating toward Tebow standing up  for his faith, while ridiculing other Xtians for not doing the same thing. Oh yeah, the dictionary thing was sarcasm.

Gotta get back to work, but hope to debate with you on future boards.




Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: August 24, 2011 1:34 am
 

John Fox: Kyle Orton to be Broncos starter

So what do you mean here?  Why should he say he is sorry if he is not wrong by lending his celebrity?
Try to keep up, scoot. This was a sarcastic reply to the idiot who thought that "everyone" should stop picking on Tebow, as if Tebow had never put himself out there. When you do a national commercial for a divisive issue, you're going to draw criticism. To expect or petulantly demand otherwise (as the poster did) is childish and hypocritical.
Who do you mean here? Not quite clear with perfect English grammar. Are you talking about all Christians, Tebow or Fred Phelps. I believe some Christians have earned respect.
This is the sort of pathetic hand-wringing I've come to know and love. The suggestion is that because some Christians have earned repect, all Christians deserve respect, while the inverse in never true. The point (follow closely, now) is that the original poster was whining because people were picking on Tebow. He then conflates Tebow with all Christians (i.e. an attack on Tebow is an attack on all Christians), and pitches a hissy fit because the Christian beliefs aren't "respected". I provide examples of blatant hypocrisy in the behavior of groups of American Christians as reasons why people might not take the integrity of American Christians very seriously, and then you fail to follow the bouncing ball, stammering out half-cocked questions that raise issues I have not.

Oh the part about Tebow murdering someone was sarcasm.
The difference between this sad, childishly echoing, limp jab and the original is that I understood the point of yours and answered it. You obviously missed the point of mine. "I know you are, but what am I?" might still be considered the height of logical argument in your circles, but we outgrew it 30 years ago in mine.

Also, since you have a very limited vocabulary and only know one definition of crushing, it can me to oppress or burden physically or mentally.
Sweet Goddess Eris, but you are dense. I know what the word means, moron. You just used it wrong. (Also, you used it to accuse me falsely, but that's beside the point.) There's no such thing as "crushing on" someone unless it means "having amorous feelings about". That was obviously not what you were accusing me of. You can stop the pantomime, now. You're embarrassing yourself.

Last, but no least, I do not hate anyone - even people who persecute Christians or people who ridicule others for disagreeing with them.
I'll take you at your word, mostly because I don't really care whether you hate no one or everyone. I just thought you might like to know that - like other self-proclaimed Christians on these boards - you use it with alarming frequency.



Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: August 23, 2011 11:16 pm
 

John Fox: Kyle Orton to be Broncos starter

Sure thing; will do. Right after he does a commercial saying, "Sorry, ladies. Didn't mean to add my national celebrity to the cause of denying you control over your own bodies."

So what do you mean here?  Why should he say he is sorry if he is not wrong by lending his celebrity? If he isn't wrong, then he has nothing to apologize about.  Since you never said anything about right or wrong. I don't think most people need to say "Sorry" for standing up for a cause they believe in. Obviously, you think he was wrong to to lend his celebrity this cause and should apologize to the ladies. Either you are saying he is wrong for this or not. Stop trying to twist your original argument. I did not see any women who so called was trying to deny their rights to control their own bodies complaining about Tebow.

Well, when you someone says they're pro-life and then murders people, it's pretty easy to ridicule their beliefs. Ditto with throwing bricks at teenage girls trying to acquire birth control from Planned Parenthood. Maybe get your own house in order (start with Fred Phelps) before demanding the respect you haven't earned.

Who do you mean here? Not quite clear with perfect English grammar. Are you talking about all Christians, Tebow or Fred Phelps. I believe some Christians have earned respect.

Oh the part about Tebow murdering someone was sarcasm. Obviously, your comprehension level of the english language did not grasp that, so I thought I would spell it out for you.

Also, since you have a very limited vocabulary and only know one definition of crushing, it can me to oppress or burden physically or mentally. I apologize for using a definition from my kindergarten reading level. Oh by the way, that again is sarcasm.

Last, but no least, I do not hate anyone - even people who persecute Christians or people who ridicule others for disagreeing with them.

Especially you Lotus, your arguments and twists of not only other's words, but your own during an argument are entertaining.



Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: August 23, 2011 11:14 pm
 

John Fox: Kyle Orton to be Broncos starter

Sure thing; will do. Right after he does a commercial saying, "Sorry, ladies. Didn't mean to add my national celebrity to the cause of denying you control over your own bodies."

So what do you mean here?  Why should he say he is sorry if he is not wrong by lending his celebrity? If he isn't wrong, then he has nothing to apologize about.  Since you never said anything about right or wrong. I don't think most people need to say "Sorry" for standing up for a cause they believe in. Obviously, you think he was wrong to to lend his celebrity this cause and should apologize to the ladies. Either you are saying he is wrong for this or not. Stop trying to twist your original argument. I did not see any women who so called was trying to deny their rights to control their own bodies complaining about Tebow.

Well, when you someone says they're pro-life and then murders people, it's pretty easy to ridicule their beliefs. Ditto with throwing bricks at teenage girls trying to acquire birth control from Planned Parenthood. Maybe get your own house in order (start with Fred Phelps) before demanding the respect you haven't earned.

Who do you mean here? Not quite clear with perfect English grammar. Are you talking about all Christians, Tebow or Fred Phelps. I believe some Christians have earned respect.

Oh the part about Tebow murdering someone was sarcasm. Obviously, your comprehension level of the english language did not grasp that, so I thought I would spell it out for you.

Also, since you have a very limited vocabulary and only know one definition of crushing, it can me to oppress or burden physically or mentally. I apologize for using a definition from my kindergarten reading level. Oh by the way, that again is sarcasm.

Last, but no least, I do not hate anyone - even people who persecute Christians or people who ridicule others for disagreeing with them.

Especially you Lotus, your arguments and twists of not only other's words, but your own during an argument are entertaining.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: August 23, 2011 8:02 pm
 

John Fox: Kyle Orton to be Broncos starter

Orton and Quinn both padded their 2nd preseason game completion percentage with BS dink & dunk, junk passes.
But feel free to totally ignore the above 1st preseason game stats and continue spouting your Tebow-hating BS.
And you can feel free to ignore how ineffective and lost he's been in practice and scrimmages, the coach's evaluations, and the entire second preseason game. It's good that the Broncos don't have you as a head coach, since you're willing to set aside 95% of available evidence for one game's worth of preseason garbage time versus a 3rd string defense.

Let Tebow start the next preseason game with the 1st teamers.
Then put Kyle last with the 3rd teamers and scrubs and see what happens.....
Well, you'va already predicted what happens, since you are so highly touting Tebow's efforts versus 3rd stringers: Orton shreds them and is therefore superior. Irony is lost on you, isn't it?

What I know is this: Your ears can easily and clearly determine who the fans want as the QB.
All you have to do is listen any time that Tim comes on the field....
Wow, all those years the coaching staff and Broncos management put into learning football were a complete waste! All they needed to do was parade their players in front of the fans. Whoever gets the most applause starts. It's brilliant! Now they don't have to fritter away all that time with practices and drills and watching the players play. Defense doesn't win championships, cheering does! You're a friggin' genius!


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