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Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

Posted on: August 24, 2011 5:03 pm
Edited on: August 25, 2011 7:13 am
Posted by Ryan Wilson

On Tuesday, Titans running back Chris Johnson was headed to Nashville to meet with the organization, ostensibly to discuss a new contract. As for what he was expecting, Johnson was both cryptic and pragmatic, tweeting "Could get better or worst."

Well, according to reports, the two sides have gone their separate ways Wednesday afternoon, no deal has been announced, and no update given as to the status of Johnson's ongoing holdout. Neither Johnson nor his agent Joel Segal, or Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt, were immediately available for comment, the Associated Press reported.

This is the latest chapter in a saga that has dragged on since training camps began in late July. Johnson hinted during the offseason that he wanted a new contract, and two weeks ago Reinfeldt announced that the team was willing to make Johnson the league's "highest-paid running back." He'd just need Johnson to show up to camp and negotiations would proceed from there.

Seemed reasonable except that Johnson wanted to be one of the NFL's highest-paid players. And even after a face-to-face meeting Wednesday, the impasse continues.

We've argued that Tennessee shouldn't pay Johnson. Not because he's not a great player, but because running backs are fungible. In the Titans' last preseason game, Jamie Harper rushed for 83 yards on 11 carries, and Stafon Johnson added 68 yards on 11 carries.

Chris Johnson's Holdout

While we shouldn't make too much of one preseason game, there are countless examples from the regular season, too. Willie Parker, Chris Ivory and Arian Foster immediately come to mind as undrafted backs who got opportunities after players ahead of them were injured.

It's rare that a player holding out for more money has leverage over the team, but the Titans have a rookie quarterback in Jake Locker (though Matt Hasselbeck will likely start the season under center) who will need all the help he can get. And there's the very real chance that the league suspends wide receiver Kenny Britt, Tennessee's second-biggest offensive weapon.

Whether it's enough to force the Titans' hand is another story, especially since the team -- with Johnson on the field -- won six games in 2010 and eight games the year before.

And if he does return before the regular season? Head coach Mike Munchak says Johnson can't just show up and expect 30 touches a game

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Since: Aug 22, 2011
Posted on: August 25, 2011 7:14 am

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

Uhhhh @ greenuns7...The Spurs were average to horrible before Tim I guess you could say Timmy was the reason for that 99 championship. The Admiral was there long before Timmy and couldnt get it done, while Timmy has thrived since The Admiral retired...just saying, thats back to Chris Johnson

Since: Aug 25, 2011
Posted on: August 25, 2011 3:58 am

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

Come on dude, lets be real! You don't even make sense your making points to justify both sides and then you say just pay the guy. You obviously think you know way more than you really do. Who cares what his numbers are. Obviously he has one of the better O-Lines in the game. And thats the only reason he hasn't got his legs broken yet. If you stuck any top five RB into his situation he thrives so since he wont sign for highest paid RB in the league hes a dumb ass. He deserves to not play just like Vincent Jackson last year. Before you take a side on something atleast try to stick to your side. Your just another wanna be analyst who trys to make a point but is unclear why. Just like half the retards out there. Adrian Peterson is by far the best RB in the league over the last five years. And probably two other guys that are equivalent if placed in Chris Johnson's situation.

Since: Aug 25, 2009
Posted on: August 25, 2011 2:32 am

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

Let him sit.  They have already offered to make him the top paid RB, and that isn't good enough?  He really thinks he needs to be paid liek a top QB???  Crazy.  Let him sit and move on with life.

Since: Aug 25, 2011
Posted on: August 25, 2011 1:54 am

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

First if all, lets cconsider the impact on the entire team that is relying on CJ. He obviously is NOT a team player!! He has made it obvious that it IS about the money and not the game. CJ must realize that he is idolized by many many fans and that his greed has surpassed his loyalty to the team. If I was on the Titans I would vote to NOT pay him the incredible amount of money that he is asking for instead, I would vote to trade him and in return get a more team oriented player thus making the entire team better. CJ is not content with being the highest paid RB in the league and has greedily insisted that he should be the highest paid PLAYER in the NFL joining the ranks of Tom Brady, Larry Fitz....these guys have put in their time and earned it, sorry CJ you have not!!!!
What it all boils down to is the fans of the Titans need to say get your shit together CJ and get your ass on the field!! RB's are a lot easier to come by and I'm sure Tennessee could get GREAT value from a trade....CJ's backups are not just scrubs waiting in line to get a chance to play; they are proven RB's in college that would risk everything they have, including health, to make it in the NFL!!
Its time that the coaches and owners take control of their teams and dictate that these types of greed players will be passed on and ultimately be benched and hopefully other teams will NOT even consider picking them up! I understand that winning is everything but sooner or later these high salaries will surpass what fans are willing to fork over and then what???
Bottom line is CJ is a phenomenal player unfortunately his greed has surpassed his blood boiling desire to be a part of a team. Tennessee fans should do the right thing and vote him GONE!! Once he has started acting in this manner hopefully other teams will just overlook him and he ends up working at KFC!! Enjoy it now CJ cuz if you keep acting like a greedy fool you will end up working at KFC!! My vote, let him go and get some seriously good draft picks for players that really care about his teammates NOT his own bank account!! PERIOD!

Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: August 25, 2011 1:06 am

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

What jerk he is being. He should have taken the money with the highest paid running back, but he is too greedy. Not worth QB money, and not worth the trouble now. Let the jerk sit and rot.

Since: Jun 13, 2007
Posted on: August 25, 2011 1:03 am

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

I  must be missing something here, or there are representatives from CJ's PR company chiming in this thread about how woefully underpaid he is.  The franchise is making him an offer to make CJ the HIGHEST paid running back in the game.  Unless the top running backs make $800,000.00 per year, he will make about an order of magnitude higher than his current salary.  If CJ wants to be the highest paid player in the game, why didn't he carry his team to the Super Bowl?  Tom Brady was drafted in 2000 and he led the New England Patriots to a Super Bowl Championship in 2001.  In Kurt Warner's "rookie" season, he led the 1999 St. Louis Rams to a Super Bowl Championship.  If we consider other sports, Earvin Johnson was a rookie when the Lakers won the Finals in 1980.  Larry Bird was a second year player when the Celtics won in 1981. Tim Duncan was a second year player when the San Antonio Spurs won it all in 1999.  Aaron Rodgers was the Super Bowl MVP in his second full year as a starter

If CJ wants to be paid like the highest impact player, he has yet to deliver like the athletes mentioned above.  He should accept his paltry salary of the highest paid running back in the National Football League or stay home.  If that is not amenable, the Titans should trade CJ for either of the Mannings, Brady, Larry Fitzgerald, Aaron Rodgers because that what CJ thinks he is worth.  Good luck with those proposals. 
The Titans can finish 6-10 without him on the field.

Since: Nov 1, 2010
Posted on: August 24, 2011 11:16 pm

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

Chris Johnson definitly doesn't need to go from underpaid to highly overpaid. There needs to be a balance and CJ doesn't want to meet that balance. I doubt the Titan's haven't offered a good balance... they wanted to make him the highest paid RB in the game. Oh well.

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: August 24, 2011 9:51 pm

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

Personally - I think that instead of guaranteeing a player like Chris Johnson $30MM... the teams should instead purchase an insurance policy that inures to the benefit of the player so that the team is not left holding the bag on a player that could essentially play one game for $30MM. Obviously the insurance policy would be moderately high risk, and the premium would reflect that, but it would provide each side with a safety net for such situations. It wouldn't be too difficult to calculate risks based on the number of career-ending injuries that have occurred over an arbitrary period of time. I can count on one hand the number of careers cut short due to serious injury in the last five years... and when you look at the overall compensation to players... this could be a win-win for the teams, the players, and still be profitable for the insurance companies. The arrangements could also have a termination clause that kills the players agent compensation in the event the player goes out - after all, why should an agent benefit from a player's injury?

The Titans need to do a deal with Chris Johnson, but he needs to step up and recognize the limited value he brings to the team too. How much does a person really need to be "set for life" in the event of the unthinkable?  

Since: Apr 8, 2009
Posted on: August 24, 2011 9:37 pm

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

Fungible?  Really?  I was in a mock draft two nights ago and a guy used the word fungible and the rest of us laughed over it.  There was a long discussion over the word cause most of us thought it was a made up word or a typo and now it shows up here.  So was I drafting with Ryan Wilson two nights ago or does he and some random guy just have the same "word of the day" calender?  Its a damn good thing I am not a paranoid schitzophrenic or I would be freaking out right now!

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: August 24, 2011 9:10 pm

Titans, Chris Johnson end meeting without deal

While Chris Johnson is probably the most explosive RB and possibly, player in the league, I think Adrian Peterson is more valuable to the Vikings than CJ is to the Titans.  A big play back is great but a grind it out guy helps the team win.  The Titans didn't win last year...or the year before.  Lets face it, the Titans are cheap asssed and are in no shape to contend for anything in the playoffs with a Rook QB in Jake Locker and who knows what other woes they have in the passing game and defense.

If the Titans want something for nothing, then they need to trade this guy for at least a 1st and 2nd round pick.  They OBVIOUSLY don't want to pay him a fair contract and it will come at their expense and his expense either way.  They want him to play for cheap like he did last year because that's how these people operate...and CJ is smart enough to hold out for a fair deal.  However, the player then looks like the bad guy, especially to 'whitey' and 'whitey's' fans, because he wants to be paid what he's worth for his work.  I personally would have traded him by now because the Titans are obviously not interested in winning this year nor do they believe they can compete with the elite teams of the AFC.   

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