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Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

Posted on: September 8, 2011 11:21 pm
Edited on: September 8, 2011 11:34 pm
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Posted by Will Brinson

One of the NFL's rules is that "striking an opponent with fist" is illegal and will result in a 15-yard penalty and an ejection in the even that it's flagrant.

So Charles Woodson probably shouldn't have played the last quarter and a half against the Saints after he threw an uppercut David Thomas' way.

On a first and 10 from the 36, the Saints ran the ball to the left side. Woodson was blitzing but missed the play and while coming back to the runner got entangled with Thomas. A quick tussle ensued and Woodson swung at Thomas, which you can see to the right, courtesy of Chris Chase of Yahoo.

Sean Payton quickly pointed out that the referees "gotta throw a flag."

They did, and Woodson was given an unnecessary roughness penalty, but he should have been ejected because he winded up and threw a punch at Thomas given how flagrant it was.

But the referees decided to leave Woodson in and the Packers began to pull away thanks to some big defensive stops. He'll likely see a fine coming his way from Park Avenue, but if the Packers win the game because he stuck around, it'll be worth it.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 1:19 pm
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch




Since: Nov 19, 2011
Posted on: December 25, 2011 4:44 pm
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

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Since: Jun 13, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:19 pm
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

Woodson should been ejected for the uppercut to Thomas's package.  Maybe the blow was incidental, but you can't allow a man to get away with bashing another man in the sack.  Each of us know the intense pain of taking a shot at the groin, but a closed fist is never acceptable.  Woodson should be suspended a game and be made to watch baseball catchers take foul tips into the "lower stomach".  As Bill Cosby once said, "if you get hit down there, grab your head and scream about the intense pain of an instant headache."



Since: May 21, 2007
Posted on: September 12, 2011 9:20 am
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

 I agree there could be a better way of writing the rule and that some players like Finnegan should be punished much more severely for his multiple offenses, but the issue would still be that it would be at the refs discression. One way that they could fix the problem is to have a central group of people review each instance and issue suspensions in addition to any type of penalty issued in the game, for example if they were thrown out or not.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: September 11, 2011 4:24 pm
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

True, they don't want draconian rules, but I think they could do better. At the refs' discretion, they could decide what is "accidental" and what isn't. It will never be perfect, of course. Charles Woodson plays physically, and he might get flagged a few times unnecessarily, but if the NFL can do something about punks like Cortland Finnegan, it would be worth it.



Since: May 21, 2007
Posted on: September 11, 2011 1:50 pm
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

Im saying that there is a technicality which makes it so that the official not throwing him out was a legitimate call, i personally believe he should have been thrown out but the way the rules are written it could have went either way and either outcome would have been the right call based on your individual interpretation of the rules. I also feel that they cannot really rewrite the rule to make all punches be an automatic ejection based off the explanation of the Rip technique sometimes accidental punches occur when trying to use good technique, so there is no real way to rewrite it without there being loopholes or it taking away important techniques in the game.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: September 11, 2011 1:29 pm
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

pack_fan55: Surely you aren't saying Woodson shouldn't have been ejected, right? Perhaps a case can be made that he didn't technically violate the rules, but that's a technicality. He punched another player; that should be enough for an ejection. If it isn't, the rules need to change.



Since: May 21, 2007
Posted on: September 11, 2011 12:59 pm
 

Charles Woodson not ejected after thrown punch

Just incase someone doesnt quite get where im going with the interpretation angle of the NFL rules I'll also break down the Woodson call, once again the rule is taken from the same rule book site as before:
15 Yards (and disqualification if flagrant)
  1. Striking opponent with fist.
  2. Kicking or kneeing opponent.
  3. Striking opponent on head or neck with forearm, elbow, or hands whether or not the initial contact is made below the neck area.
  4. Roughing kicker.
  5. Roughing passer.
  6. Malicious unnecessary roughness.
  7. Unsportsmanlike conduct.
  8. Palpably unfair act. (Distance penalty determined by the Referee after consultation with other officials.
the definition of flagrant is conspicuously or obviously offensive. so with that definition a flagrant punch could be considered going more than one step out of your way to throw the punch, which he didnt which from a MMA and a High School/College football background is the definition id go with. another thing on the subject is that from high school on D linemen are taught to throw punches to get through the line this is also known as the Rip move which is still legal in the NFL
heres a video showing how to perform that move from youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZRMtknRj5o
even though the fist is supposed to come down beside the opponent truth is that it does frequently hit the other player i know thats less fragrant than woodsons punch but it is still a punch if your going to say any punch is fragrant


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