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Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

Posted on: September 13, 2011 9:39 pm
Edited on: September 13, 2011 10:15 pm
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Carl Eller is one of the plaintiffs suing the NFLPA (US Presswire).Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Just because the NFL lockout is over and the owners and players have signed a new CBA (without, mind you, agreeing to HGH testing), that doesn’t mean the lawsuits have stopped.

No, not in regards to the former NFL players who believe they helped make the current NFL what it is today and also feel like they’re getting screwed in the aftermath.

Yahoo Sports’ Dan Wetzel reports the latest, as a group of 28 former players, including Hall of Famers like Carl Eller (pictured at right), Chuck Bednarik and Elvin Bethea, have filed a lawsuit against the NFLPA, union executive director DeMaurice Smith, and Tom Brady and Mike Vrabel, two of the plaintiffs from the lockout lawsuit.

The suit -- filed in U.S. District Court in Minneapolis -- states that when the NFLPA decertified last March, the players were in no position to bargain for and agree to the benefits for the retired players, and as Wetzel writes, the players want a declaration that “the ‘right to negotiate with the League the rights and benefits for NFL retirees’ rests with the Eller plaintiffs.”

The veterans’ attorney Michael Hausfeld said this lawsuit does not affect the current labor peace but that the former players want to readjust the benefits they’ve received in the new CBA.

Said Hausfeld: "The retirees rights were sacrificed for the benefit of the active players.”

Why this continues to come about, I think, is a general feeling of disrespect from the current players to those who came before them. That’s the sense I got from former Oilers quarterback Dan Pastorini when CBSSports.com spoke to him recently. Even with the $620 million Legacy Fund created by the NFL and the NFLPA in the new CBA, the players obviously feel that doesn’t adequately compensate them for their sacrifices in the past.

“I think it’s a travesty the way they treat the older players,” Pastorini said. “I’m part of that group. They’re throwing us a bone with the $620 million. By the time they get to a new CBA after 10 years, they won’t have to worry about us pre-(19)93er’s. It’s sad, but it’s their M.O. They want to wait for us to die.

“What they’re talking about now is to give us a bone and to shut us up. It’s just wrong. It’s damn wrong. And the players association is just as greedy as the owners are, if not more so. The players don’t go to bat for us, which makes us ashamed.”

Although some current players, like Saints quarterback Drew Brees, have advocated for the retirees, the general feeling of discontent still lingers. Now, the former players are hoping the court system will bestow upon them the relief they feel the NFLPA hasn’t given to them.

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FootballGuy44
Since: Nov 3, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:26 am
 

Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

Smithyamiami,

 And stop with this, "they played 50 years ago" crap; that's b.s. and you know it. We're talking about guys who played in the last 10-30 years, so quit acting like these men played ages ago.

uhhh, well the 3 names mentioned in the article all played 50+ years ago, these are the crotchety old men that are complaining dude.


That being said, it doesn't mean that a retired NFL player who played in the 1960s doesn't deserve a little something either. 
My grandmother was a telephone operator in the 50's and 60's, she paved the way for telecommunications to NATURALLY eveolve into a multi-billion dollar industry. If she didn't opperate a switchboard 50 years ago telecom wouldn't be where it is today. Does she deserve money? 

These old-timers are receiving $1,000 per month, but thats not enough for thwese guys who claimed they played the game for pride and not for money. Of course it seems like that might not have been the truth all along.


 the former NFL players did help make the game what it is today.
How? Don't just make that statement, provide some facts and examples to prove your point.


They paved the way for the current generation of players, and have helped the game to evolve and become much more lucrative in the years since they played. 

They did? They invented instant replay? they invented fantasy football? they invented dish network? they invented the superbowl? the probowl? Cmon man, all these guys did was to become the 1st guys to play the sport, thats all they did. Lets not forget that college football was immensly more popular than pro football back in the day. It wasn't until business minded owners and commissioners figured out how to market the league to make money. Those old-timers didn't overcome insurmountable odds, they didn't risk their bank accounts like the owners did, they just played football and as fate has it they were the 1st of thousands.

 


rvsquared
Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:05 am
 

Every Man for Himself

It's always been that way and always will.  Retirees should stop pretending they ever "sacrificed" anything for the benefit of the players of their tomorrow.  They fought for contracts and money for themselves the same way the players today did and will continue to.  Take what's offered, be grateful that there's anything at all considering you were all mostly too stupid or too lazy to go out and fight for a real job after a short career earning ten times the average American at the time.  If you'd planned and saved, instead of livin' like the money was going to continue for twenty years, you'd be fine today.  The last time a previous generation sacificed anything for the sake of the next generation of workers to follow happened somewhere aroung 1900 when the men who first formed true Union power knew their sons were about to follow into the same career. Speaking of which,where the heck are all of the illegitemate kids these football heros spawned and why aren't they stepping up to help dear ol' dad?


mnix47mn
Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:03 am
 

Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

Although some current players, like Saints quarterback Drew Brees, have advocated for the retirees, the general feeling of discontent still lingers. Now, the former players are hoping the court system will bestow upon them the relief they feel the NFLPA hasn’t given to them.


That is just not true about Drew Brees. There is a reason why Dan Pastorini said **** Drew Brees. It is because:



      
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  Brees said in 2009 when discussing retired players who complained about their benefits --
“There's some guys out there that have made bad business decisions,” Brees said then. “They took their pensions early because they never went out and got a job. They've had a couple divorces and they're making payments to this place and that place. And that's why they don't have money. And they're coming to us to basically say, 'Please make up for my bad judgment.' In that case, that's not our fault as players."

It might have seemed Brees was talking directly to Pastorini, who’s had to declare bankruptcy twice and has been divorced after ending his one-time Pro Bowl career. Clearly, Pastorini feels that Brees -- who is making $7.4 million this year and could be the next quarterback to win a $90 million contract -- made it personal.

It's pretty sickening how everyone is saying what a nice guy Drew Brees is. He's a greedy bastid who deserves nothing but disdain. 


topofstack
Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: September 13, 2011 11:35 pm
 

Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

And the owners were the problem with the lockout?

D Smith and the NFLPA flopped on the decertification costing the league and players millions in legal fees and time to handle a legal loophole that was never there (a sham).  Now their former members (the ones they supposedly were trying to help) are suing them.  The players don't care about anyone other than themselves.  In 30 years, how many players will be broke or without a job because of character (not medical) issues?  How many of the owners?  Probably none.


smithyamiami
Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: September 13, 2011 11:29 pm
 

Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

That's where you're wrong -- the former NFL players did help make the game what it is today. They paved the way for the current generation of players, and have helped the game to evolve and become much more lucrative in the years since they played. 

And stop with this, "they played 50 years ago" crap; that's b.s. and you know it. We're talking about guys who played in the last 10-30 years, so quit acting like these men played ages ago. That being said, it doesn't mean that a retired NFL player who played in the 1960s doesn't deserve a little something either. 


1967packer
Since: Mar 29, 2011
Posted on: September 13, 2011 11:00 pm
 

Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

Football guy get your head out of your as. who do you think made teh game what it is what are you 10 years old and dont know your ass from the whole in the ground walter payton, Bart starr didnt do anything for the game you probably dont even know who they are your a idiotInnocent


1967packer
Since: Mar 29, 2011
Posted on: September 13, 2011 10:57 pm
 

Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

Typical Players move f...over the old guys to make them selfs richer its all about me. look at p manning he cant even play but it was all about him. when guys like manning and the bit... brady get old and cant play no more I hope the union f... them over also.


FootballGuy44
Since: Nov 3, 2007
Posted on: September 13, 2011 10:37 pm
 

Retired players file lawsuit against NFLPA

This is a joke, the old retired players need to get over themselves, stop being jealous and realize they had noithing to do with football being what it is today. Commissioners Pete Rozell and Paul Tagliabue made football what it is today with brilliant marketing schemes and unparalelled leadership. They brought us the superbowl, the probowl, the AFL/NFL merger, merchandise sales, and most important of all they limited expansion to keep the league from getting watered down.NBA and  NHL have added 10 teams each in the past 20 yrs, MLB and NFL have each added 4 in that same time frame. Basketball and Hockey is absolutely unwatchable now, where as football and baseball are our national past times. 

Think about it like this, if chuck Bednarik and these other grumpy old men were so influential and pioneered the sport, then why is basketball so bad and unwatchable? I mean we just witnessed basketballs "golden era" in the 80's and early 90's with some of the greatest players of all time: Jordan, Magic, Bird, Olajuwan, Ewing, stockton, Malone, Barkley, etc etc etc... Shouldn't basketball be off the charts as far as popularity with the same natural progression that concrete Charly is crying about? And shouldn't hockey be off the charts too following in Gretzky and Lemiex footsteps? Does anyone know or care who the superstars are in hockey now? Nope, because its a watered down league with terrible leadership.

It's just pathetic, it's not any different than someone working for the phone company 50 years ago and now complaining that they aren't rewarded everytime someone buys a cellphone plan as if they had something to do with telecommunications now becomming a multi-billion dollar industry. These babies are just as greedy as they claim Drew Brees is. Sorry you played 50 years ago, stop looking for handouts, maybe you should have made smart investments with your money so you still have some. PATHETIC! 


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