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Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

Posted on: September 21, 2011 12:06 am
Scott Pioli (right) and Todd Haley apparently aren't getting along (US Presswire).Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Considering the Chiefs are off to an atrocious start and considering we’ve been talking about the warmth of Todd Haley’s seat, it’s not surprising rumors of in-fighting between the coach and general manager have been whispered about lately.

Apparently, Haley and general manager Scott Pioli don’t get along, and though the Chiefs won the AFC West last season, the relationship between the two of them hasn’t improved. That’s the rumor anyway.

If that’s the case, Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel doesn’t know anything about it.

“I haven’t heard that. I haven’t read that,” Cassel told WHB radio in Kansas City (via “To be completely honest I haven’t seen that with my own two eyes. From what I see they talk to each other in the building. They are communicating and everything. It looks great, so I don’t know anything. I can’t really speculate on the article or what is being said out there because I haven’t seen that or know anything about it.”

Yet, if there are problems between the two, it’s not like Haley has any leverage. Pioli presumably could fire him tomorrow if he wanted.

But, as’s Pete Prisco wrote earlier this week, it’s not like Pioli is blameless in Kansas City’s woes. Wrote Prisco: “It's easy to take shots at Chiefs coach Todd Haley. But what about general manager Scott Pioli?  His moves have backfired in a big way. Trading for Matt Cassel and paying him a long-term deal was and is a bad move. The guy is just ordinary. Pioli has made some other questionable personnel moves, like drafting Tyson Jackson with the third overall pick. Pioli is from the "we invented the game bunch" that is (the) offspring of Bill Parcells. It looks like Mr. Rigid hasn't invented the game after all.”

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 7:30 am

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

Since: Nov 19, 2011
Posted on: December 25, 2011 9:20 am

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

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Since: Nov 28, 2011
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Since: Sep 21, 2011
Posted on: September 21, 2011 2:05 pm

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

I firmly believe the blame should be shared amongst both the coach and the GM. (Even if they do hate each other).

1, Quite frankly, both are horrible fits for the KC organization. Looking at the various stories that tarnish the House that Lamar Built has me quite peeved...entirely too many bridges have been burned. It's time I start looking at what the many detractors from OTHER organizations are saying about Pioli and Haley.

2. My "amateur" eyes see a team that quit on the head coach. I don't care how many games into the season it is, or what they did last year, when that happens the organization has no other choice: the head coach has to go.

3. Haley deserves some slack for a short offseason and horrendous injuries to 3 of the 5 best players on the team. (Thankfully, Tamba is still around...). However, Haley also deserves serious criticism for his offseason plan. Standing out from the crowd of 31 other teams in respect to what you focus on during camp is an experiment in my book. Just because he bases his offseasoon plan during NORMAL offseasons on conditioning, does not give him license to fail so miserably with a shortened offseason plan. Re-watch the season opener and tell me this team was prepared. It's embarrassing, amateur, and most importantly: Unacceptable for an NFL coach.

4. Pioli hasn't exactly been the greatest supporting cast member either. Other than the no-brainer 1st round pick last year, how have the rest fared? Two out-of-position flops on the defensive line and a super-reach on a character concern of a WR? What meaningful free-agent acquisitions have been brought in? He did manage to trade away our greatest player in the history of the franchise (Tony G). When Brian Waters says it was a "mutual decision" to split, that's NOT a good reflection on Pioli. Waters is, and still is, a fine offensive guard. He's also a class act. I can't say I've found much about Haley or Pioli that I would describe as "classy" thus far.

5. Pioli's not the only guy who can't seem to play nice. Weis? Gailey? Two fine coaches sent packing after short tenures. I credit Weis with last year's offensive success. I credit Haley with this year's.

Since: Apr 26, 2009
Posted on: September 21, 2011 10:01 am

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

I agree that certain aspects of the early season can be attributed to some bad luck, key injuries and such.  However, good coaches and good teams make their own good luck.  Haley only seems capable of repeatedly shooting himself in the foot and then sticking it in his mouth.  So, sometime between now and the bye week, I expect to see Pioli fire Haley and then Clark Hunt fires Pioli.  Hopefully Mr. Hunt realizes that waiting until the end of the season for the inevitable will not be as helpful as cleaning house now and letting the new management/coaching team get their feet wet as soon as possible.  Beginning their tenure facing adversity may actually be a plus down the line.       

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: September 21, 2011 9:50 am

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

It's wise that Cassel does not choose sides because if he does he might just be out of a job if he backs the wrong guy.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: September 21, 2011 9:27 am

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

Kansas City is such a good football town.  The fans deserve better.
So is Cleveland a "good" football town. Deserving better and getting better are two different things!!

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: September 21, 2011 9:12 am

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

They both suck. Haley has no business calling offensive plays. He has mustered, what, 14 points in 3 games so far calling plays? Pioli grossly overpaid for Cassel and missed on a few in the draft, Dorsey. Cassel is the definition of "average" QB. He'll win 7-9 games a year when his team is healthy. Not bad, but not upper echelon type player, which he was paid. Also, this team has injuries, but not that many injuries. They just don't seem motivated to play. That falls on the coach. Awful. Some of the worst 3 games stats ever for a team.

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: September 21, 2011 2:52 am

Cassel knows nothing about Haley-Pioli rift

we are giving too much credit to GMs..when you are lucky to draft Wilfork and Seymour...after  you drafted Jackson and Dorsey....completely different results...but they weren't bad choices..just you was lucky before and unlucky now...
Haley is strong-minded coach..who had the best year as OC in Arizona of Whisenaut/OL Grimm and....Kurt to Fitz...
also him lucky before..unlucky now
let also Waters go away..not smart move..Pioli if Vrabel is not on the field he feels lost!!...Pioli is overrated and Hale

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