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Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:59 pm
 
Carson Palmer and Kyle Boller at Raiders practice Wednesday. (US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

If we're to believe Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders, Carson Palmer, less than a week out of retirement, will start Sunday against the Chiefs "as long as he's breathing."

CBSSports.com's Clark Judge isn't buying it, primarily because "It just seems as if starting a quarterback who hasn't played in over nine months, has no history with your team or his teammates and isn't in football shape isn't such a smart idea."

Palmer to the Raiders
We'll know one way or the other Sunday afternoon, but for now the discussion remains if a) the Palmer we'll see will be a better rested version of the 2010 quarterback who appeared skittish, or b) a reinvented Palmer more closely resembling his 2005 self, when he was one of the league's best QBs.

CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco thinks it'll be the latter.

NFL Network's Albert Breer talked to former NFL quarterback Ken O'Brien, who's been working with Palmer during his retirement/holdout, and let's just say O'Brien was impressed with what he saw.

"He's healthy as a horse," O'Brien told Breer. "I just helped him get through drills. And from where he was, he had to get healthy after the end of the season. That's the good part of the layoff. He rested his body up. … Everyone wants to be in top shape, but when you have an injury inside of you, with ligaments or cartilage, that takes time to heal, no matter how strong or muscular you feel."

After the issues about being in shape and learning a new offense, there were also concerns about Palmer's arm strength. He came into the league with a cannon, and after 2008 elbow surgery, he left looking more like Chad Pennington (slight exaggeration, but everybody can agree that he had lost a few MPH's off his fastball).

"If everything else is equal, he has all the talent in the world to do whatever he wants to," O'Brien said. "Talent and desire is not an issue. It might've been a dysfunctional situation he was in, or being injured, where he didn't have as much success of late. And being healthy certainly helps. He can do everything he wants to do physically now, and that's exciting.

"Add to that, he and Hue have history together. Hue knows what to do, he's an exceptionally smart coach. Carson will fit right in, where they were looking for an answer. You can't just get guys like him."


The Kansas City Chiefs will battle the Oakland Raiders this Sunday at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum. Which team has the advantage? NFL.com's Pat Kirwan joins Jason Horowitz to preview this AFC West matchup. Watch the game at 4:05 PM ET on CBS.

Not without giving up two first-round picks, anyway. With just a handful of practices with his new team, Palmer has looked every bit the franchise quarterback. Any questions about his arm strength will linger until he has to make a stick throw under pressure during a game, but for now, the reassuring tweets of Raiders beat reporter Steve Corkran will have to do (from Thursday's practice): "Palmer sideline throws arrive in a hurry, plenty of zip on his throws."

If you still have doubts, here's Saunders, upon first viewing Palmer on the Raiders' practice field Wednesday. “He walked out on the field yesterday and everybody kind of looked at everybody and said, ‘You know what? This is a real quarterback,’” he said. “That was the comment made by a couple people as they watched him throw. It just depends on how quickly he feels comfortable in what we’re doing and that shouldn’t take too long.”

Hardly a ringing endorsement for Kyle Boller (which he must be used to at this stage of his career), but that's sort of the point. You don't mortgage the franchise for a slight upgrade from your backup. That said, just how good Palmer will be -- and if he's worth what the Raiders gave up to get him -- remains to be seen.

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Comments

Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: October 21, 2011 9:31 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

haha I don't know about the sliver and Black winning the SB this year but they will be in the mix no doubt. If they can take care of K.C. then Palmer would step into a good situation.

Lets not forget the Chiefs have a lot to play for as a win here would surely boost their confidence and suddenly they would have won 3 in a row. this game could be really good .



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:04 am
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

It's not like Boller gives them a better chance of winning this weekend!

Boller just might give them a better chance this weekend.  You're assuming he doesn't just because Palmer is a much better qb with a lot more talent.  I don't think everybody completely understands what's happening here though,  Palmer didn't have a training camp and hasn't played competitive football in around 10 months.  And he's only going to get about 4 days in of practise before game time...   rushing a qb makes no sense at all..... not one bit. 



Since: Mar 23, 2009
Posted on: October 21, 2011 3:26 am
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

A lot of you ask why are they putting in CP now, why not just wait til after the bye.  I think it is because they are in the same spot if they use Boller this game.  Why not put in CP and let him get used to his mates during the real thing?  It's not like Boller gives them a better chance of winning this weekend!



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 2:04 am
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

PALMER = giant upgraded on Campbell, let's not even bring up Boller.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 9:15 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. Yes CP is in shape and has good arm strength but it will take him a couple of weeks to get used to his receivers and the Oline.

It's going to take any quarterback in Palmer's situation time to be effective, no doubt about it.  Don't the Raiders have a bye after this week?  If so, why aren't they letting Palmer get back into shape, learn the playbook and get some chemistry going with this teammates before they try and put him out there?  I don't understand the big rush....  and I don't care if he's been working out on his own.  The guy has been sitting around at home for a long time, there was no training camp and he's with a new  team..... doesn't make sense to play him this week.



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 7:16 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

This was so obvious.  That's why the media and fans don't run football teams.  That's why the Bungles are consistently one of the worst franchises in the NFL. 

Sure the Raiders have struggled for the last several years, but Palmer is the real deal.  I almost feel sorry for the Chiefs.

Raiders are winning the SB this year!



I won't disagree with you that the Bengals have been abysmal during the past twenty years, and the overall history of the Raider's organization speaks for itself.  But please don't try and tell me that the Raider's  have only been bad for the past several years. Since 1990 the Raiders have won only 29 more games than the Bengals, an average of only 1.45 games per year. So for the past twenty years the Raiders have sucked nearly as bad as the Bengals! With the extra draft picks the Bengal's are in a position to turn the franchise around. If Mike Brown will just allow the coaching staff to make quality draft picks, as they have the past 3 years or so, I can see the Bengals becoming a dominate force over the next decade. The Bengals, while nowhere near the proud franchise the Raiders have been, were in fact among the ten winningest teams in the NFL from 1970-1990. The time has come for the Bengals to turn things around!



Since: May 24, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:37 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

Some people make stupid comments. If Palmer alone were enought to raise a good team to the top, the "BUNGLES"would have done more with him at the helm. No one disputes that Cincy has had some very talented teams in the last several years. Carson HAS to share in the blame for the mediocre results.



Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:34 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. Yes CP is in shape and has good arm strength but it will take him a couple of weeks to get used to his receivers and the Oline.

But I agree that the Raiders will get to the postseason, if for no other reason than to honour Al.

Go raiders 



Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:19 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'has plenty of zip on his throws'

This was so obvious.  That's why the media and fans don't run football teams.  That's why the Bungles are consistently one of the worst franchises in the NFL. 

Sure the Raiders have struggled for the last several years, but Palmer is the real deal.  I almost feel sorry for the Chiefs.

Raiders are winning the SB this year!


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