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Hue: Palmer throwing 'like you wouldn't believe'

Posted on: October 22, 2011 8:14 pm
Edited on: October 22, 2011 9:29 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

Ever since Oakland sent (potentially) two first-round picks to Cincinnati in order to acquire Carson Palmer, there's been a fierce debate about whether or not they paid too much.

One of the reasons for concern is that many a pundit believes Palmer lost some the zing off his throw. An elbow surgery injury in 2008 coincides with the last time he averaged more than seven yards per attempt as well an obvious decline in production; his numbers in 2009 and 2010 aren't close to his 2005 and 2006 numbers, when he was arguably one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

But Hue Jackson, the man who green-lit the deal to acquire Palmer, isn't trying to hear any of that business. In fact, he says Palmer's slinging the rock around like it was the good old days.

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"You’ve got to be kidding me," Jackson said about the speculation that Palmer lost strength and velocity. "He’s throwing the ball like you wouldn’t believe. Trust me, if he’s out there -- I mean, we wouldn’t have signed him if he couldn’t throw.

"I get surprised at those kinds of questions because I would never put the guy on the team or [trade] draft picks like that if he couldn’t throw the ball or he could not do or be what I think he has the potential to be."

Palmer to the Raiders

Of course, everyone else is surprised because it seemed obvious that Palmer's skills declined after his elbow injury. And because Jackson gave up big-time draft picks in order to land him.

It might not matter; Palmer's an upgrade over Kyle Boller if he goes under the knife tomorrow. And as bad as everyone feels for Jason Campbell, Palmer's an upgrade over him too, even though he missed the first six weeks of the season.

But none of that is important -- Palmer can throw for 4,000 yards, or he can throw for 400, but if the Raiders don't make the playoffs this year or next, after giving up the pair of picks they did, then they lost the deal.

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Since: Oct 16, 2011
Posted on: October 23, 2011 9:51 am

Hue: Palmer throwing 'like you wouldn't believe'

Only time will tell if Carson Palmer can still win in the NFL. The raiders have always had a way of resurrecting careers. Jim Plunkett, Lyle Alzado, Rich Gannon, Tyrone Wheatley, even Richard Seymour were all thought to have been washed-up.. All of them and many others had renewed success with the Raiders. Plunkett winning a couple of Super Bowls in the process. Why not Carson Palmer?

Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: October 23, 2011 7:23 am

Hue: Palmer throwing 'like you wouldn't believe'

Dude... We have a Proven Franchise QB and THEY CAN't STAND IT!!!!! Leadership is everything and CP is THAT!!!!!


Since: Oct 22, 2011
Posted on: October 23, 2011 1:50 am

Hue: Palmer throwing 'like you wouldn't believe'

     That's what I'm talking about!! Dude, how many "first-rounders" have we seen come n go. Dude, do we need to start a list of the busts, and we'll put Raiders at the top w/ J.Russell.  I've been saying this the whole time!  Also, to piggyback off what you said, dude, if WE WIN a PLAYOFF game that means by definition, it'll be a LOW 1st rnder at that. Yeah, we aren't talking about a top tier recruit. We needed a quality QB, right here and right now. Besides, even if CP didn't play for the SnB, I would still list him about hmmm 1/3rd of the QBs playing right now. Easy.  Or at least have played the past season. D.Garrad, Kyle Orton, Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, J.Clausen (sp?) Chad Henne, the Hasslebacks, Kerry Collins... etc.etc.

Since: Mar 7, 2011
Posted on: October 22, 2011 9:18 pm

Hue: Palmer throwing 'like you wouldn't believe'

Apparently, nobody has been paying attention to all the first round busts and hundreds (yes hundreds) of millions of dollars down the toilet spent on gambling on a first round pick.  It's all a gamble.  Anyone know the name of New England’s two first round picks they got from the Raiders?  Of course not - they were mostly busts - and New England picked them.  I'm guessing they would like Seymore back about now.   If the Raiders end up in the playoffs - those first round picks are not top 10 or even top 20 - but everyone is talking like they are top 5 and they are talking like whatever the Bengals get are sure fire hits.  Yet these news reporters write these stories with blinders on. 
The big difference for the Raiders here is that they know what they have in Carson Palmer.  He could be good for 7-9 years.  What do you do in that time? You do what you have not done in a long long time - win games AND groom the next QB.  When you can't even get a starting QB, how are you supposed to groom the next one?  Rodgers benefitted greatly from sitting and watching - so did Steve Young.  Also - the Raiders have been getting players (that may or may not have something left) nobody wanted in the past.  Now, they are getting players that a lot of teams want.  There were many teams that called about Palmer and offered a lot - the Raiders were willing to offer more.  The Raiders are now making moves for the right players and yet all they get is criticized. 
Why not give the other side of the argument.  If the Bengals first round draft picks don't win them a Super Bowl then the whole deal was a bust for them.

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