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Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

Posted on: October 26, 2011 10:03 am
Posted by Will Brinson

The Ravens looked downright dreadful on the offensive end of things on Monday in their 12-7 loss in Jacksonville. As such, the critics came calling, with many a pundit ripping Joe Flacco and even Baltimore linebacker Terrell Suggs questioning the playcalling after the game.

Suggs was baffled about the number of touches that Pro Bowl running back Ray Rice received. That number -- eight! -- apparently didn't sit well with head coach Jim Harbaugh, who said he's on the "same page" with Suggs re: touches.

"I listen to all of our guys and definitely I listen to Terrell Suggs, especially with the way he’s playing," Harbaugh said. "And then, the things he says are right. But, that’s what we’re trying to do. It’s not like we’re not trying to do the things he’s talking about doing. So, I think we’re all on the same page with that."

So that's not good news for offensive coordinator Cam Cameron. Although our own Mike Freeman reported Wednesday morning that Harbaugh isn't happy about the way Suggs criticized Cameron publicly, so perhaps it's Suggs that should be worried.

Indeed, reported late Tuesday that Harbaugh and Cameron huddled up and discussed the offensive problems and determined that everyone's at fault.

"It’s warranted for all of us,” Harbaugh said. "I think we all deserve to have fingers pointed at us when the offense plays like that. That’s tough."

Oh, right, and add Flacco to the list of people that deseve blame, according to Cameron.

"That’s part of our deal," Cameron said. "Heat on me, heat on Joe. The coordinators, quarterbacks, we can all do better. It goes with the territory."

Flacco deserves criticism for making bad throws, of course. But it's not Flacco's fault that the offense is plodding through a late-game situation, or that Rice only got eight carries.

Now, there's an argument that the Ravens weren't moving the ball well on the ground -- Rice averaged just 3.5 yards per carry and Ricky Williams picked up just five yards on three carries.

But the problem with that argument is that 12 total carries for your running backs in a game that doesn't feature more than 19 points is simply illogical. 19 total points means that a game's either a defensive bloodbath or a sloppy offensive game. Either way, mistakes and the other team's opportunities can be mitigated by running the ball and looking to run it more effectively.

Cameron could have worn down the Jaguars defense and limited Flacco's mistakes if he'd simply given Rice the ball more, but for some reason, he didn't feel interested in doing so; when the score of a football game is 6-0 at halftime and still takes two hours to play, something has gone amiss in the respective offensive gameplans.

"Eight carries is never going to be a winning formula for Ray Rice," Harbaugh said. "There is no doubt about it."

Indeed it isn't, and Cameron should probably heed Harbaugh's words and perhaps take a look that the coach had on his face during Baltimore's next-to-last drive of the game. Cameron didn't go with a no-huddle offense initially, and melted nearly 1:30 off the clock with three plays that picked up a whopping 23 yards.

After finally letting Flacco put his foot on the peddle, the offense moved the final 60-plus yards in less than two minutes, scoring their first points of the game.

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Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 3:51 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

Players calling out coaches is not good and now shows a team in disarray. Harbaugh needs to tell Suggs, although a great defensive player he is just that, a defensive player and he needs to shut up.

Cameron calling out Flacco and placing some of the blame on him?....WHAT? Cameron just broke another cardinal rule of placing the blame on one of HIS players. Harbs needs to bring Cameron into his office right after Suggs.
Well said Ravenmaniac881.  Your whole post was spot on.

The Ravens should be fine. Sometimes a game like that is just the wakeup call a team needs.

Since: Apr 3, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 3:49 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

I can recall the dark times of football in B-more after the Colts were Mayflowered out of Owings Mills and before Art Modell brought us the Ravens.  With no team to cheer for I was happy for my friends who were Redskins fans.  The one thing I was in total amazement of was the way Joe Gibbs made changes during halftime which sparked the Skins to multiple Super Bowls. 

The Ravens had ZERO first downs in the first half.  A good coaching staff can evaluate and make changes.  A good coaching staff does that.  Cam Cameron's offense didn't change.  Credit Jack Del Rio's staff but come on! Ray Rice was taken out on a 3rd down play.  He's the best third down option the Ravens have.  Equally as dredful was the shabby attempt of a hurry-up offense.  A quarterback needs to have a plan on what to do prior to the game just in case a hurry up scenario is needed.  Cameron called every play that slowed down the hurry up, like hurry up and wait a minute.  Pathetic.  Let Joe Flacco call all the plays himself.  If he can succeed the team is set.  If not you know what you have and get another qb.   The Ravens offense needs a spark.

Fire Cam Cameron and make a position coach interim coordinator.  That in itself will shake the offense up a bit and make them feel like they have to perform better.  The players and coaches need to be more accountable for their actions.  Cam Cameron has failed and should be replaced.Cry

Since: Aug 23, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:59 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

Cameron was clearly out coached and just jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire.  As in firing his butt.  This was supposed to be Flacco's coming out party this year and it has not happened.  But give the Jags some respect they beat the Ravens at their own game.  They came out and hit them in the mouth and surprised them.  Sometimes you just got to hit the bully in the mouth to fine out if he's all talk.  Oops! Did I do thaaaaaaat.Cool

Since: Jul 17, 2009
Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:34 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

uh-oh! The Ravens appear to be imploding. It couldn't have happened to a more despicable group of guys!

Don't you worry yourself there Buckeye Kurt, This "despicable group of guys" will be playing football deep into January while the lowly Browns will all be home on their couches watching.  Everything will run it's due course. Surprised

Since: Sep 30, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:20 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

This team clearly needs some lessons on what to say to who and when..........going public with this was a bad idea.  It's obvious to anyone that watched the game that the offense was not working.  20/20 hindsight tells us to have Rice run more, Flacco needs to make better throws, blah, blah.  If it is so obvious, then why are defensive players like Suggs opening their mouths?

Baltimore has enough weapons to be a Super Bowl team, if they just figure out how to work together and keep the crap in-house.

Since: May 30, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:16 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

Ravens Superbowl Formula:  Fire Cam Cameron and cut Michael Oher...

Since: Sep 24, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:53 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

pathetic...player runs his mouth, calling out the offense and coaches to the media, and the head coach addresses it by saying he's right!  Who's in charge?!?!  its ridiculous.  i don't mind players saying things about bad calls, talking smack about the other team, or getting amped up after a loss, but I can't stand players calling out anyone on their own team.  That should be kept "in-house".

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:43 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

uh-oh! The Ravens appear to be imploding. It couldn't have happened to a more despicable group of guys!

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:37 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

wow..players calling out the coaches..
even the Eagle players didn't do that, even though they knew how bad they were being coached, they still had thier coaches back.
Ravens are done...

Since: Oct 25, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:22 pm

Everyone on Ravens pointing fingers at offense

Yeah. Kitch , not everybody is Tom Brady. Huh

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