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Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:10 pm

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Fans in Cincinnati have been upset with Carson Palmer ever since he walked away from the Bengals and (kinda, sorta) retired. They think he abandoned the team -- which he did -- and they think he was selfish. But he had his reasons, considering he knows exactly how the Bengals organization is run, and I think he had good reasons for not returning.

But … he was still selfish for leaving, and even he’s willing to admit it.

“Well it’s been a long eight years,” Palmer told KNBR in San Francisco (via “I’ve been through a lot, seen a lot within that organization, and just decided. I definitely realized it was a selfish decision that I was making. I talked about it a lot with my family and decided that I’d like to continue to play but it was time to move on. And it was time for them to move on.

“I’m just excited and happy and blessed to be in the situation I’m in now playing for Coach Jackson and with this organization. I’m excited where this one is headed, and it’s also good where the Bengals organization is headed -- they’re headed in a great direction. They’ve got a good young nucleus of players, they’re playing really well, and I think it worked out well for both organizations.”

So, did he think he would actually beat Bengals owner Mike Brown in a game of chicken?

“I actually thought I might not get a chance to play this year,” Palmer said. “I didn’t think (Brown) was going to do it and was hoping for next year. But if that was what it was going to take, that’s what it was going to take. But fortunately I got the chance to play this year.”

Palmers Intro to Oakland
And sure, the Raiders were terrible last week, watching as Kyle Boller and then Palmer threw a combined six interceptions, but Palmer is pleased to be reunited with Hue Jackson. Meanwhile, the Bengals have moved on with Andy Dalton. But still, that doesn’t stop Marvin Lewis from taking shots at Palmer’s willingness to remain loyal to the team that committed tens of millions of dollars to him.

“At what point did Carson quit?” Lewis asked Yahoo Sports. “At some point last year he decided he didn’t want to be here. This didn’t happen at the end of the season. There was a point earlier on when he said, ‘This isn’t the place for me.’”

Or as one unnamed Bengals official told Les Carpenter: “We got rid of all our [expletive].”

Which strikes me as blatantly unfair. But Palmer seems happy in his location. The Bengals seem happy with their new quarterback. And everybody can go along on their merry way.

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Since: Sep 12, 2009
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:29 pm

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

While I wouldn't agree that the Raiders are where QBs go to die (Rich Gannon MADE his career in Oakland in his late-30s), I don't agree with your inference that Oakland is one of the better teams in the league either. Their winning percentage over their history is just 55% and that includes years when they WERE a perennial powerhouse. Unfortunately, Oakland has not had GREAT teams since the days of Stabler and Plunkett. Their last Super Bowl victory was almost 30 years ago. Still, Oakland is a storied franchise with great fans and players they can point to and be proud.

Carson Palmer should count himself very lucky. It looks like the Raiders are on an upswing. With the addition of Palmer (who IS an adequate QB), the Raiders might just become a force to be reckoned with...

Since: Aug 13, 2010
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:17 pm

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

The Bungals are a joke. First of all, they play in a division with who? Two of the greatest defenses to set foot on a field in the last decade. Second, how many games have the Bungels played against these two division rivals so far? 0! Let me rephrase that; ZERO! Dalton hasn't face Pittsburgh or Baltimore. When he does he'll come crashing back to earth. All that "JU JU" will return 10-fold. You'll WISH you had Palmer back. Dalton won't even survive Seattle. As for Palmer's pick six, I'll take it. He needed his butt kicked so he can get his head right. This isn't couchball anymore. He'll see what talent he has here and what was lacking in Cincy since the WHOSYOMAMA days. While Palmer's playing in a playoff game, Dalton and his gang will be playing poker in the basement. The basement, now that's funny because that's exactlly where the Bungals are headed; its where they belong. So go ahead and celebrate that 4-2 mediocre record for as long as you can. This is best part of the season for you. In essence, you look like you still have a chance. LMAO!!!

Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:14 pm

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

I've got to give Palmer a pass on this whole thing. As far as I'm concerned, he made just the one mistake, signing that second contract with the Bengals. He bit off more than he could chew, maybe more than just about anybody could chew. Mike Brown, either by choice or because he's nearly as hopeless an executive as Matt Millen, has no grasp of how to put together a team. His locker rooms have been a dysfunctional mix of 10-year old boys who spend their days looking out the windows at the clouds and career criminals. Mostly petty crooks, sure, but the sort of guys who end up with rap sheets longer than their bedsheets. Then, there's the head coach, as ineffectual a fellow as ever came down the pike. Close your eyes and picture him blowing a whistle to begin practice. Now, tell me that you don't picture a mad scramble out to the field, ending with Lewis picking himself off the ground, stars floating about his head. Cincinnati? They might as well call the place Kindergarten San Quentin.

Since: Aug 20, 2008
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:12 pm

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

What's crazy to me is that when the Bengals were on Hard Knocks, I was blown away by Carson Palmer and actually said, "That is the kind of guy I would want to lead my franchise if I were an owner."  It's hard to imagine what was so horrible that things changed that quickly...  Oh well, I hope both parties prosper through the divorce.

Since: Oct 28, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:00 pm

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

I just love how all these commenters think they know what they're talking about when it comes to the hapless Bengals...

The Bengals Org. has had success in the last few drafts. Akili, etc. those drafts were YEARS ago.

WE hae a fresh, young, hungry, and healthy team. Lewis has the chance to start over again, literally. We've got a new OC and Mike is obviously listening to someone, other than himself. 

Many people are writing and commenting on the Bengals, in a positive way. All that bad Ju Ju is gone! Everyone thought Ocho and TO was the problem, but I knew it was Pick Six all along. Carson threw HOW MANY interceptions last Sunday? Of course, it wasn't HIS was everything but his fault...

Who Dey! The Bengals are a new team and it seems that the front office is finally making the right decisions.  With that, I am betting we'll see the Bengals win the Lombardi in the next few years. 

Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: October 28, 2011 11:06 am
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Since: Jan 7, 2008
Posted on: October 28, 2011 10:31 am

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

I think you're pretty well dead on. Only points I disagree on are some of the historical screwed up draft picks. While, yes in the end, they all were busts, most were very well thought of by many other teams. Wilkinson was a "can't miss", KiJana Carter was going to be a top 10 pick by someone, Klingler and Akili both put up eye-popping numbers at QB and were evaluated highly by many teams. It probably couldn't have happened to a better guy than Mike Brown but it happens a lot more frequently than people think. My guys in KC have screwed the pooch a number of times and had a couple of looooooong droughts as far as success is concerned... (admittedly these were not high picks like the Bungles' but if the Chiefs didn't draft well in the middle rounds they would have had the opportunity to challenge Cinci for Klinkler and Wilkinson)  Sylvester Morris, Trezelle Jenkins, Ryan Sims, Percy Snow, Paul Palmer, Brian Jozwiak and Todd Blackledge [This was a killer: we passed on Jim Kelly & Dan Marino]

Other significant top 10 picks that were maybe not busts but we can agree they were drafted maybe a round too high:
2009 - Tyson Jackson, Andre Smith, Aaron Curry, DHB
2008- Vernon Gohlston, Derrick Harvey
2007- Jamarcoughsyrup Russell, Gaines Adams, Levi Brown
2006- Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Matt Leinart
2005- Alex Smith, Pacman Jones, Troy Williamson, Mike Williams (and you could make a case for Cadillac Williams

Point is, about one in three swing and miss with top 10 picks. Really for about the past 10 years, the Bengals have not drafted poorly in the first round (save some misfortune in the injury department). And while not all are all-pros, it could have been a lot worse. So Bengal fans, get your pitchforks and torches and go picket Mike Brown to add at a minimum a second college scout and hopefully a college scouting staff. That is when the Bengals may turn the corner.

Since: May 25, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 10:03 am

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

I'm not a Palmer fan by any means. He was overrated since the time he left USC for the NFL. He says he suffered through 8 years with the Bengals, but how about his fans suffering watching him try to play NFL football. This guy is lucky the Raiders are giving him another chance. There is still something to be said about the Bengals organization though. For some reason. a lot of key players want out at any cost. Not too many NFL teams would put up with the coaching performance that Marvin Lewis continues to produce. Their fans deserve more than this soap opera.

Since: May 29, 2010
Posted on: October 28, 2011 9:55 am

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

I might have some pity for him if he were trying to walk out on his rookie contract, but no one held a gun to his head when he signed the big extension.  He just didn't want to see it through.  Regardless, Cincy comes out way on top on this deal - they get a 1st and a 2nd for a QB that is more washed up than Vanilla Ice.

Since: Feb 20, 2008
Posted on: October 28, 2011 9:29 am

Palmer admits he was selfish by leaving Bengals

First of all, the Bengals are not going to get two first rounders. The Raiders have to make the AFC championship for that to happen and it won't.
Palmer really slipped after the knee injury in the playoffs a few years back. He started to get happy feet and his judgement/timing became an issue. I think he might be successful if he had a great offensive line (who wouldn't), but he is not an elite quarterback. He was good for about a 3 year span.

The Bengals top priority is not to screw up two first rounders this year (their own and Oaklands) and two second rounders next year. Mike Brown is about as worthless as they come but if they can draft well, maybe they can turn the francise around. Is Ki-Jana Carter, Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson, David Klingler, Akili Smith, Alfred Williamson, Jeremy Irons still available?

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