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Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

Posted on: November 8, 2011 4:14 pm
Edited on: November 8, 2011 4:20 pm
Several players could be lighter in the wallet following the Sunday night game. (Getty Images)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

NBC color analyst Cris Collinsworth must've mentioned it a dozen times Sunday night: the Ravens-Steelers rivalry transcends the NFL's recent emphasis on player safety. It was old-school football, where people actually hit each other. And if that resulted in the league handing down fines then so be it.

Well, it sounds like that's exactly what will happen. Ray Lewis, Ryan Clark and James Harrison can all expect to be out some money after hits the NFL will almost certainly deem illegal, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Monday.

Lewis, the Ravens' ageless linebacker, had arguably the most egregious hit, a head shot to Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward that sent him to the bench with "concussion-like symptoms." Lewis wasn't flagged on the play.

Clark's open-field collision with tight end Ed Dickson was penalized at the time (unnecessary roughness -- hit on a defenseless receiver), and this could be his second fine for a personal-foul penalty in as many weeks. Against New England in Week 8, Clark incurred what turned out to be a $15,000 penalty for a late hit on Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski.

(Three years ago, Clark did this to Wes Welker. He was flagged on the play, but the NFL later admitted that it was a legal hit and he wasn't fined. Now look at us, fining guys for low blocks.)

The NFL also has an issue with Harrison's third-quarter helmet-to-helmet hit on running back Ray Rice, though replays show Harrison falling on Rice at the end of a play. At the time, it seemed innocuous -- and legal -- but the league's history of arbitrary punishments suggests that everything's fineable.

Ravens coach John Harbaugh, who received a Gatorade bath for the Week 9 win and later cut his chin celebrating with general manager Ozzie Newsome, didn't "want to get into that conversation right now" when asked about the hits leveled by Clark and Lewis.

"I mean, it's tough. There's no doubt about it, it's tough. It's fast and it's physical and all that, but the rules are in place for a reason, and that's the way it works," he said, according to the Baltimore Sun.

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Since: Oct 24, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2011 7:32 am

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

The worst call of the game by the refs was the holding call on Ray Rice's 76 yd TD run. That call was a joke. I don't remember which Baltimore player got called for holding, but he didn't even need to touch William Gay. Gay wasn't making that tackle. He just fell to the ground. Just out of curiosity, why is it perfectly acceptable for a RB to lead with his helmet? Nobody ever talks about those hits. What's the difference if helmet to helmet contact is initiated by an offensive or defensive player? The end result could be the same type of head injuries either way and that is what the NFL is trying to eliminate. Why don't offensive players ever get penalized or fined?

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: November 9, 2011 4:16 am

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

The En-Ef-El is reaping what it has sown.  With the changes over the last few years that were meant to skew the rules in favor of a "quarterbacks' league," defenses are left to try be relevant through sheer physical play.  If the league really wants to change things, they need to rework the rules back to the pre-fantasy stats days.  I've heard more than one commentator mention the fact that in the college game, pass interference does not kick in until the ball is actually in the air.  Until the ball is in the air, the defensive back is free to shove the receiver all he wants.  The flip side of that coin is that the reciever can do his own pushing on the defensive player.  But none of this no-touching-five-yards-past-the-scr


Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2011 3:35 am

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

They beat us fair and square, but it was a regular season game and all you steelers fans are missing the obvious...they have zero, thats right ZERO chance of beating us 3 times in a row. Steelers play playoff football, that is what we get geared up for, and liitle Joe F----O is by no means a Playoff caliber QB. Wont it be all the more sweeter when we level these trash talkig morons on national TV in the playoffs to reclaim our place above them, ALWAYS above them. Then lets hear their  trash talk.

Since: Nov 19, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 1:25 am

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

Goodell is ruining football as it was meant to be played. Soon it will be the National Flag League. Goodell = POS

Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: November 9, 2011 1:08 am
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Since: Dec 21, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2011 1:03 am

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

With the speed of the game changing and the equipment development (Except for Helmets) not keeping up with the protection, these rules may have actually saved a couple lives.  I love hard hitting football, but the helmet has been so developed that delivering a blow with it, even into another helmet, can cause very serioius injury.  It has become a weapon.  Maybe the NFL should work on developing better body armor, but even if the players were all inside a tank, the Raven Steeler game would have fines given out each time.

Oh, and it's high time for us Steeler fans to stop whining about calls.  We are developing quite the reputation around the league and even have friends who attend chat rooms to laugh.  I have been to too many games where the calls went our way when they shouldn't have.  Seems we only remmeber being injured and laugh when the calls go our way.  Time to be men and admit we were beat and carry the class Steeler Nation football used to have, showing respect and winning and losing as warriors.  Not only have the fans lost class (as we hate to lose) but the team has really gone downhill since Tomlinson. It was embarrassing in both Raven games to see those ducks in Baltimore show more class on the field than Steelers.  You never saw this kind of whining with Cower.  ...and its time for Hines (after getting leveled in both Raven games) to hush, smile, and play football at the caliber we've had grown accustomed to.     Just an opinion, which I am sure will make my colleagues angry.

Since: Dec 9, 2007
Posted on: November 9, 2011 12:55 am

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

T Smith was GRABBED and reacted to free himself.  Me thinks this okay.

Since: May 4, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 11:36 pm

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

not a big time steeler fan but i do like the way they play and i dont know i might be way wrong but the ravens last TD looked like it should of been off pass interference can you stiffarm a defender befor you have the ball just wondering

Since: Sep 25, 2007
Posted on: November 8, 2011 11:18 pm

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

The real problem I have is "The Commish", he is single handedly trying to put his mark on the game in a negative way by being Judge, Jury, and is a violent collision sport at high speeds.  It is too hard to control the types of hit that are occuring because defenses trying to initiate contact and offence is trying to avoid them...very unpridictable results...if you want to reduce the violence, take away the helmet...see how many time Ray Lewis, James Harrison, or Ryan Clark lead with the head to make a tackle.

The dumbest rule on the books which needs to be changed is the off-sides penalty on the defense for causing the offense to move when they enter the neutral zone...come on! ever since this game has been played, defenses have been allowed to move and even cross the neutral zone as long as they don't touch opposing player or are back before the ball is snapped...the defense drew the offence into moving and they get penalized...give me a break, total lack of concentration on the offense...I hate that call 

Since: Jul 31, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2011 10:36 pm

Lewis, Harrison, Clark could face fines

Dear NFL,  Could you please find it in your heart to knock off all this bull**** fining for hitting in a contact sport?  And while your at it, get rid of that ridiculous penalty about "leading with your helmet!" A player cannot tackle properly without doing just that.  If you want to make a personal foul call, call it "spearing!" 

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