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Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

Posted on: November 10, 2011 9:03 am
 
GabbertPosted by Josh Katzowitz

If you were asked which team currently employed the worst starting quarterback in the league, it’d be an easy answer. Tim Tebow, right? Not even close, yes?

Well, no, not exactly.

As ESPN.com’s Paul Kuharsky reports, on passes that travel less than 10 yards in the air, Jaguars rookie Blaine Gabbert has a 50 percent completion rate, and his passer rating of 60.9 is the worst in the league.

Even worse than Tebow? Yes, apparently.

The article in question wasn’t a comparison between Gabbert and Tebow, but Kuharsky gives an interesting answer regarding the question of why the Jaguars shouldn’t get away from their running game and give Gabbert a chance to show what he can accomplish if he’s throwing down the field. That’s because, according to Kuharsky’s stats, Gabbert is 10 for 10 on screen passes with a quarterback rating of 105. His long-distance passing is somewhat less than that.

And even though running back Maurice Jones-Drew hasn’t been as effective as a pass-catcher this year, there doesn’t seem to be any reason to believe that Gabbert suddenly would become a rookie of the year contender if he began heaving throws down the field, especially considering his top two receivers are Mike Thomas and Jason Hill

But what about Tebow, you ask?

Funny thing, he’s getting more comfortable in the Broncos offense (going 2-1 in your first three starts and having your coach install more of a college-style offense probably doesn’t hurt).

"Our offense is what it is, and we'll continue to run that, but every week we'll continue to game plan new things, just like any team would to try to take advantage of the defense we're going to face," Tebow said, via the Denver Post.
 
So, with Gabbert’s worth falling and Tebow’s worth rising, what can we gather from all this information? Easy, Gabbert is not > Tebow.

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Comments

Since: Nov 12, 2011
Posted on: November 12, 2011 4:17 pm
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

Any way you twist the stats, he is not a good nfl QB.  He is a great athlete, and a great effort guy, but you have to be an accurate passer in the nfl, and he is not.  Eventually that will lead to him being a backup somewhere, after Elway runs him off.  Great kid though.




Since: Nov 12, 2011
Posted on: November 12, 2011 4:11 pm
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

This is the dumbest article I have ever seen.  Tebow is a great kid and athelete who lacks the tools to be a top QB.  Gabbert is 22 has all the tools to be a franchise QB, was either the consensus 1 or 2 QB in the draft.  He was forced into action as a rookie with no OTAs and has played the Bengals, Steelers, Ravens, and Texans, the top 4 defenses in the league.  Did you want to wait more than 6 games before evaluating Gabbert's ability?



Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: November 11, 2011 3:40 pm
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

Curtis Painter isn't battling for the top spot? 
i think people arent putting Painter on the top spot due to the fact that people KNOW he's a backup, he's only playing due to injuries of Manning and Collins. Beck is starting because the Redskins ignored the QB position and thought Beck was the future and Grossman could hold down the fort and neither were true.
I wonder if this comparison was born from the "Jacksonville should have drafted Tebow argument" we have suffered through for the last two years in J-Ville?
i think that's exactly what it is, it's the Jaguars should've gotten Tebow argument and the reason is because Tebow is a local guy who would've been a ticket seller. that's why (i think) this article was written.
My biggest criticism of Gabbert is that he shies away from contact; which, is a pretty big deal. With that being said, he is not as bad as his numbers.
i agree. Gabbert isnt Newton or Tebow as runners and i agree, he's not as bad as his numbers, i think one issue is the Jaguars seem to have him handcuffed and dont let him loose.
His receiving core is horrible. Receivers are not finishing routes and tend to drop several catchable balls every game.
yep, i agree, that's the other problem, his WRs stink, i only can name two and that's because i know a Jaguars fan, if i didnt, i would only be able to name you two guys on that team who play offense. they need a go to number one WR, Justin Blackmon or Alshon Jeffery to Jacksonville would be the BEST move for the Jaguars, even if they cant get one of those guys, Michael Floyd would look great there too.
Pro Bowl tight end Merceded Lewis has had problems getting any separation and has had a case of the droppsies as well.
yep, also true, Lewis isnt playing like he has played before.
The offensive line is missing starters every week and some of the starters that do play are dinged up. 

i think the line has been good enough, the problem is all the others i brought up, talent at WR, Lewis struggling and coaching not letting him loose.
Truth be told, Del Rio has an old school defense and run the ball 1st mentality that seems to kill QB play
yep, in a way, Fox and Del Rio are one in the same. both are defense, run the ball type of teams, they dont like to pass much. i like Gabbert and think in time, he will be good, Tebow, i am not sure, i HOPE he's great, but i dont know if he will end up being good.



Since: Nov 11, 2011
Posted on: November 11, 2011 11:49 am
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

How do you figure Tebow is so bad? It's not even close.. The QB ratings Speak for themselves...

Philip Rivers 80.2
Tim Tebow 80.1
Matt Moore 79.7
Kevin Kolb 77.8
Matt Cassel 77.8
Christian Ponder 77.5
Joe Flacco 76.9
Colt McCoy 76.5
Sam Bradford 72.3
Carson Palmer 71.5
Blaine Gabbert 62.0



Since: Nov 10, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 4:13 pm
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

Who says Tebow is playing bad. The so called experts, give me a break, these same idiots told us how great leaf, russell, henne and bradford were gonna be. If you compare stats the only area that he looks bad is his comp. avg. But under closer inspection it's not that bad. Only 4 or 5 QB's are over 60%. Elway himself has a career avg of 56% ( under 50% first 11 games). When you look at the big picture he is actually doing great for only 6 starts. He is far ahead of Bradford in all categories and cost 40 million less. No one gives him credit for taking care of the ball (6 TDs 1 int). He'll take the heat, sacks. etc instead of throwing the ball up for grabs or trying to squeeze it in resulting in ints. Given time to develop Tebow will make his mark in the NFL just like he done at every level.



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 3:08 pm
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

BTW: worst QB in the league?  Not Tebow.  John Beck, hands down.  Matt Moore is second, while Tavaris Jackson places.  I'd say Tebow is perhaps the fifth or sixth "worst QB" in the league right now, in fact, behind those three, Curtis Painter, and maybe even Kevin Kolb.

Curtis Painter isn't battling for the top spot?  Really, I actually think he is worse than T.Jax and maybe worse than Beck.

Matt moore isn't that bad of a QB though.  He has proven he can win at times.  I wouldn't even put Matt Moore in the company you just named TBH.

Heck,  I would even take Moore over Sanchez.


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Since: Nov 10, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:08 pm
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Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: November 10, 2011 12:48 pm
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?


Tim Tebow in his 6 starts is averaging 2 TD's and 257 yards per game. 

When you start breaking down the QB's in this league who are endorsed by their coaches and GM's as being anything other than interim QB's who would you rather have than Tebow in regards to your starter from all the 22 other QB's outside of the top 10?
Ranking-Player-Team-AVE TTL Yrd--TD's--INT's-Fumbles/losses

11 Michael Vick  PHI------315----11----9----8/3 
;
12 Joe Flacco  BAL--------261----10----6----9/5&nb
sp;
3 Matt Hasselbeck  TEN
14 Josh Freeman  TB-------265----10----10---2/0 
;
15 Matt Ryan  ATL---------253----14----9----3/3&n
bsp; 
16 Ryan Fitzpatrick-------248-----9----8---

-3/1 
17 Jay Cutler  CHI--------242----11----6----5/2&nb
sp;
18 Mark Sanchez  NYJ------230----15----7----7/5
19 Colt McCoy  CLE--------235----10----6----8/2&nb
sp;  
20 Kevin Kolb  ARI   
21 Andy Dalton  CIN-------215----13----7----1/1&nbs
p;  
22 Matt Cassel  KC   
23 Tarvaris Jackson  SEA  
24 Alex Smith  SF---------193----10----2----5/2&nb
sp;  
25 Sam Bradford  STL
26  
27 Jason Campbell  OAK  
28 Rex Grossman  WAS   
29 Donovan McNabb  MIN  
30 Kyle Orton  DEN  
31 Matt Moore  MIA 
32 Blaine Gabbert  JAC----161-----5-----4----7/2

Of the 11 QB's broken down above

Only three QB's have more yardage per game average.
Only 3 have more TD's, and that is with 2 more games started, kick in Tebows TD average and none of the broken down then Tebow emerges to have more TD's than them all.
Only one QB has less turnovers.

 

Bradford has only started 6 games this season, comparing his second season to Tebows first 6 starts and it really starts hitting home at just how good Tebow actually is when compared to the first pick of the draft Tebow was later selected in. Bradford is heralded as the Future of the Rams without question, yet the guy is 0-6 this season.


Total Yards
Tebow 1547
Bradford 1,456


Touchdowns
Tebow 12 
Bradford 3

Turnovers
Tebow 5
Bradford 7




Since: Jul 14, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 11:35 am
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

he beat the Ravens. nuff said !



Since: May 2, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2011 10:00 am
 

Is Gabbert playing worse than Tebow?

I wonder if this comparison was born from the "Jacksonville should have drafted Tebow argument" we have suffered through for the last two years in J-Ville?


My biggest criticism of Gabbert is that he shies away from contact; which, is a pretty big deal. With that being said, he is not as bad as his numbers.

His receiving core is horrible. Receivers are not finishing routes and tend to drop several catchable balls every game. Pro Bowl tight end Merceded Lewis has had problems getting any separation and has had a case of the droppsies as well. The offensive line is missing starters every week and some of the starters that do play are dinged up. 


So what does all of this mean? Nothing. The numbers are what the numbers are. Newton gets to throw to Steve Smith. Andy Dalton has A.J. Green. We have......(queue criket sounds) nobody. Not to mention that Gabbert has played arguably the 4 best defenses in the NFL this year over the last 4 weeks. Pretty brutal stretch.

Truth be told, Del Rio has an old school defense and run the ball 1st mentality that seems to kill QB play.


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