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Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

Posted on: November 15, 2011 9:30 am
Edited on: November 15, 2011 9:32 am
We're Tracking Tebow … because it's impossible not to watch. 

Posted by Ryan Wilson

We'll sometimes joke about a particularly appalling quarterback performance setting offenses back a 100 years (it usually happens anytime Rex Grossman plays). But the Broncos' Sunday gameplan for Tim Tebow, the glorified running back who occasionally is asked to throw the ball, was right out of Fred Flinstone's high school playbook.

Of Denver's 64 offensive snaps, Tebow threw the ball eight times. He completed two passes, and ended the day with 69 passing yards. A week after Denver unveiled the read-option against a flummoxed Raiders defense, they followed the same strategy against the Chiefs. The difference: Kansas City didn't seem surprised that Tebow would, you know, run the ball. In fact, defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel prepared his players well for it; the read-option didn't yield much in the running game. It was the conventional hand-off-to-the-running-backs play-calling that caused Kansas City all sorts of problems.

Recapping Week 10

Not counting Tebow's nine rushes for 43 yards, Denver averaged 4.3 yards per carry with Willis McGahee and Knowshon Moreno early (they left with injuries in the first half) and Lance Ball late. And this includes the final two series of the game -- all Ball runs -- as the Broncos ran out the clock.

As for the historical significance of what happened Sunday, consider this (via ESPN): the Broncos had never won a game with two or fewer completions, and no NFL team in the last quarter-century had accomplished that other than in a Week 5 2009 win for the Browns, when Derek Anderson went 2 of 17 against the somehow-more-hapless Bills.

In that game, Cleveland ran the ball 50 times and squeaked out a 6-3 victory. For an idea of just how bad it was, Captain Checkdown Trent Edwards was the most prolific passer on the day, going 16 of 31 for 152 yards.

The Broncos, meanwhile, are 4-5 and just one game back of the division-leading Raiders. The question going forward, of course, is can Denver win with the "run, run, then run some more" game plans.

Against the Chiefs, Tebow's passing opportunities were limited. He didn't attempt a throw in the first half, maxed out with five attempts in the second quarter, added two more in the third and was 1 for 1 with a 56-yard touchdown pass in the final quarter. His misses weren't nearly as off the mark as they have been in recent weeks. Two early deep throws should've been caught, another was woefully underthrown, and his running back dropped a short pass in the second half. Tebow's worst throw of the afternoon was on 3rd and 4, when the ball traveled approximately 2.5 yards in the air before short-hopping his intended target. In that sense, Tebow improved, though probably not nearly enough to be considered anything other than a fullback with a pretty good arm.

But, hey, style points don't matter. And Tebow is 3-1. It's hard to believe, yes, but it's the truth. Welcome to the AFC West, everybody!

                                                   Play by Play

(Note: Below are the plays -- both running and passing -- involving Tebow. You can view the entire play-by-play breakdown here)


"After a while, you come to the realization that Ernie Els' golf swing is different than Lee Trevino's, but it's what they're comfortable with, they both work, and they both win.'' - Broncos head coach John Fox

"I thought they had a terrific plan, and it just took us too long to figure out how to get the run stopped, whoever was running it, whether it was the quarterback or the backs or the receivers," - Chiefs coach Todd Haley (By the way: this is why Haley will probably be looking for work in January)

"If you don't have to throw it as much, I guess you're probably winning, but eight times? Never heard of that." - Broncos CB Champ Bailey on Tebow's 2-for-8 afternoon. When asked the last time he played in a game in which his team passed the ball eight times, Bailey said "never."

“This is very frustrating because you’re in a good position. Leading up into the game, you’ve got a good scheme against a guy like Tebow. There’s no one to blame. It’s just us as a unit. We didn’t pull it through. … They just outexecuted us. That’s all that happened. Can’t say they wanted it more. I mean, I don’t know what happened, man.” - Chiefs CB Javier Arenas

"At this rate, I would say yes. Now, who knows? But he's running the offense well, and he's not turning it over.'' - Fox responding to SI's Peter King on if Tebow as the starter for the rest of the season.


Here are the moving-pictures recap of the Broncos' win over the Chiefs:

Tim Tebow hit Eric Decker on a 56-yard touchdown pass, one of his only two completions in the game, helping the Denver Broncos to a 17-10 win over the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday. CBS Sports' Bill Macatee and Steve Tasker have the recap.

Here's a rare glimpse of the Broncos' aerial assault. Rarer still, a Tebow completion:

Because you can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him.

                                                   Eye on Tebow

Tebow (15) gets past Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Glenn Dorsey (72) to score a touchdown during the first half of an NFL football game on Sunday, Nov. 13, 2011, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

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Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: November 17, 2011 1:23 am

Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

In reality Tebow should have been 5 for 8 passing with around 125 plus yards. The Decker deep ball drop may have gone for a TD, if not it was inside the 5. Bottom line is Tebow really has no talent around him. He doesn't have a receiver who would be drafted or ranked in the top 20 in the NFL. Runningbacks are much the same.   and  aren't top 20 backs either and by the way who is the TE in Denver? Beats the heck out of me to, so it's safe to say he isn't top talent either. I don't know that John Fox is a good coach either. I doubt anyone would have him in their top 10.

Wonder who would have the better record, Tebow on New Englands team or Brady on this Denver team? The only difference would be the QB, everything else stays the same. A quarter can break a team (McNabb in Minny) or a team can break without one (Peytonless Indy). But I don't think a good quarterback can make a really bad team good. By no means am I saying Tebow is the greatest QB ever, but I think he is a lot better than people give him credit for.

Since: Aug 15, 2008
Posted on: November 17, 2011 12:47 am

Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

I get so tired of people saying this "college" stuff won't work in the NFL, because of the talent level. That’s baloney.

In peewee football you play peewee talent, in high school you play high school talent, in college you play college talent, in the NFL you play NFL talent. At each level the skill level goes up, so of course the high school team can do more than the peewee team, and the college players can do more than the high school teams, and the pros more than the college teams.

But at each level the talent is equal for both teams, peewee teams play peewee teams and not high school teams and high school teams don't play college and college don't play pros. But the style of play, at each level, is not based on the inferiority of the lower level, but that as players progress (grow up) they can do more and that gives each higher level more options.

A peewee style offense played by high schoolers, against high schoolers, while it may be limiting, it will work, because your playing against the same level of talent.

The pro T formation, didn't go out of fashion because defenses were able to stop it, but because the single wing gave the team more options, the single wing didn't go out of fashion because the defenses were able to stop it, but because the I formation gave the team more options. The I formation, didn't go out of fashion because defenses could stop it, but because the pro set gave the team more options. Remember the west coast offense? With its success teams started drafting players to fit the mold, so they could implement it.

One thing everyone seems to forget, is that all the advances in Pro offenses started in college, and as the advances became more accepted in college it got moved to the pros.

The Packers of the late 50's and 60's, played old fashioned football, even for their day, everyone knew what they were going to do, they just could not stop it. The spread offense and the read option, as they gain more success and more of a following in the College ranks, then the pros will follow suit.

If the read options works with college players playing against other college players, then it will work with pro players playing against other pro players.

To be successful, at any level with any offense or defense, you have to have the right personnel running it. Just ask the coaches that try to play the 3-4 defense, with 4-3 personnel.

Since: Feb 6, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 8:53 pm

Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

Bottom line, folks, is just what it says in the headline.  The kid does what it does takes to get the win for any team he plays for.  I am not a Broncos fan, nor a fan of the Gators.  All I know is that Tebow wins.  Thats all I need to know.  He seems to be an easy target for some commentators mostly because of his beliefs.  While I will agree that he is not the prototypical NFL quarterback, I will say that it doesn't matter because he gets it done by more exciting methods than the straight drop-back passer.  It makes me want to watch NFL games again.  So...just keep winning TIM!

Since: Sep 28, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2011 7:33 pm

Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

Wow Ryan. I don't know if you are stoned, stupid, or simply have a huge man crush on tebow. Fox's tebow playground offense didn't work (barely 300 yards total), it was merely not as bad as Kansas city's. Denver's defense won this game, not touchdown Jesus' whopping 120 yards of total offense. And bs that you watch tebow "because it's impossible not to watch". What utter nonsense. You watch because you are a mindless drone following the media pack who cares about sales over truth and substance. Want to talk about a good young quarterback? There are several who deserve attention before tebow (dalton, newton and ponder to name a few), maybe if you started acting more like a journalist than a fan you would realize it.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 12:45 pm

Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

Sure the competition might be questionable but more than a few of those throws hit as good as any pass I've seen by any other qb in the NFL

I agree,  he has shown some incredible passes and passes that were right on the money (long TD to decker is a good example)
He is growing and has his team winning, which is all that matters.  I believe the kid will get better with time, its a given fact that he was going to be a project, so people need to back off him for a bit.  His record is better than Cams, Gabberts, any of the Redskin QBs and a few others this season. And he is playing on a less talented team than Cam. (I'm a Panthers fan btw)  He is statisticly comparable to Eli and Vick when comparing this point in their careers as well as a few greats like Elway.
Time will tell if he will grow into the position and take the next step like Eli, Vick, and others or if he will level off/degres like many other QBs.

Since: Oct 27, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:36 am

Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

Because none of the elite qbs ever short hop anything?  Don't get me wrong, the kid doesn't play like you'd expect and at some point you have to think he's going to lose a lot of games because of it but that still has yet to happen.   They're certainly not contenders by any means but you have to almost wonder would they have won more or less than Orton produced in his first 5 starts had he got the shot at this point.  Sure the competition might be questionable but more than a few of those throws hit as good as any pass I've seen by any other qb in the NFL (although watching him throw it is almost painful).  But hey, if it works go with it.  Even if the kid's an utter and complete flop when all is said and done you can't deny the rest of his team plays up when he's at the helm which I haven't seen out of Denver since Elway (even with some decent outings by Cutler).

Since: Nov 15, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:31 am
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Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:18 am

Tracking Tebow, Week 10: Just win, Timmy

Tebow is improving as a passer, even with only 8 attempts.  Sad that his guys couldn't catch a cold though.  Wonder what could of been if they kept Lloyd or traded for a decent WR.
Timmy still has a lot of work to do though to become a competent QB as evident by his short hops.

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