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Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Posted on: November 22, 2011 12:30 pm
Turner could be looking for work come January. (AP/US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Norv Turner is in his fifth season as the Chargers head coach. He took over the team in 2007 after general manager A.J. Smith fired Marty Schottenheimer for going 14-2. In three of the four seasons since, two things have been constant: the Chargers have gotten off to glacially slow starts only to mount a late-season run and make the playoffs. And San Diego, despite a franchise quarterback and plenty of playmakers, is still looking for its first Super Bowl.
Turner's record in San Diego
2007: Started 1-3, finished 10-2, lost to the Pats in the AFC Championship game
2008: Started 3-5, finished 5-3, lost to the Steelers in the AFC Divisional game
2009: Started 2-3, finished 11-0, lost to the Jets in the AFC Divisional game
2010: Started 2-5, finished 9-7, missed the playoffs 
But 2011 was different; the Chargers started 4-1, were the clear favorites in the AFC West (and even some folks' Super Bowl favorites), and everything was finally coming together. Unfortunately, the new collective bargaining agreement didn't shorten the regular season to five games. San Diego has dropped five straight and is a complete mess of a franchise. Philip Rivers has looked, well, awful, the run defense is non-existent, and head coach Norv Turner, through it all, remained expressionless.

But barring a Tebow-like miracle, Norv won't have to worry about the Chargers much longer. The San Diego Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee writes that Turner's days could be numbered.
At this point, it is apparent only a drastic turnaround will save Turner, as the Chargers have lost five straight and are in last place in the AFC West, in grave danger of missing the playoffs for a second straight season. [Owner Dean] Spanos also has wondered about repeated game management decisions, and after five years it is possible Turner has been given enough time to get done what no Chargers coach ever has – win a Super Bowl.
Ah, yes, those game-management decisions. The latest came Sunday, in the Chargers' loss to the Bears. San Diego lost its final two timeouts with 3:16 to play and trailing by 11. They burned the first one, and then during thee timeout decided to challenge a ruling. The Chargers lost the challenge (of course they did) and another timeout. You don't see that every day.

But Turner isn't the only guy who should be worried about his job. Smith could be in trouble, too. Acee writes: "But even late last week, word had begun to circulate in league circles about Spanos' escalating concern about the state of his franchise in the hands of Turner -- who has the second-highest winning percentage in team history at .608 (45-29) -- and even Smith, the man Spanos has given virtually complete control of football operations over the past nine years."

In general, Smith has done a good job of roster-building and fielding a winning team. But the lack of success in the postseason coupled with Turner's weekly gaffes have started to add up.

Early last season, when Vincent Jackson was holding out for a new deal and Smith refused to budge, Jackson's agent Neil Schwartz said "We had multiple deals in place. It is our understanding … that the Chargers were unreasonable. More than one general manager referred to A.J. as the 'Lord of No Rings.'"

Short of an improbable turnaround, Norv and A.J. might soon be the Lord of No Jobs.

As we mentioned in Tuesday's Coach Killers, maybe Rex Ryan was onto something.

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Since: Oct 24, 2011
Posted on: November 22, 2011 11:48 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

i say philip rivers bs attitude needs to go!

Since: Mar 15, 2010
Posted on: November 22, 2011 11:19 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

It's about time.  Every year it's gotten worse.  It's time for a change and it needs to start at the top.  AJ and Norv need to go.

Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 22, 2011 9:10 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

after five years it is possible Turner has been given enough time to get done what no Chargers coach ever has – win a Super Bowl.

Five years?  Wow.  Good thing Andy Reid doesn't work for these guys.  

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 8:39 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Sure am glad the GMen traded Phyllis Rivers For ELI Manning.

Since: Nov 21, 2011
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:44 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Ryan is a good rb, he needs coaching. LT fumbled a few times before marty coached him thru it. A coach is a teacher. if you cant teach they cant learn. you can have a ton of talent but if they arent coached corectly, they wont learn. Cason.. same thing  ..a lot of our players need to be coached th right way, thats the differance between good team and not so good teams. its a simple consept ..

Since: Nov 17, 2009
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:39 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

I call the last INT that Rivers threw on Sunday, "The Norv Killer". I think he did it on purpose.

Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:16 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

A.J.Smith fired Marty after going 14-2. He hired a coach who has NEVER shown that he is head coach material. OC at best. But there are bigger problems than Norv. Smith has had an antagonistic way of dealing with ALL the players. McNeil, V.Jackson just to name a couple. He doesn't care what happens to the team, as long as everybody knows HE'S in charge. This is really the most underperforming team in the last decade. Marty made everybody responsible for their job. He was tough, and he knew how to win. But Smith didn't like that. So he brought in his "friend" Norv. Who doesn't know anything about disipline. I've never seen a team with the talent that they have, look so lost during games. They stand on the sidelines and have that glazed look on their faces. NO DISIPLINE! Well A.J., you got the coach you wanted, now you have to live with the results. Well done.

Since: Jun 4, 2011
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:11 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Dude, don't hate on still4greenbay.  Read the preceeding three years "finished" totals.  Only in 2010, do they give a final record.  The first three "finishes" all refer to the Chargers run to the end the season (i.e 11-0 after a 2-3 start and then lose to Jets) and to determine final record you do have to add the "finished" games to the games played during the poor start.  NOTE:  I do not call you an idiot for failing to notice this discrepancy.  While I agree that if you do the quick math, it should be be apparent that teams don't play 23 games in a season (unless you count pre-season and possibly 3 playoff games).  However, instead of insulting still4greenbay, why don't you just note that the article is poorly written -- surprise! -- and potentially confusing if you are simply skimming it.   

As a Chargers fan . . time for Norv to go.  Gotta hold on against Jets and can't lose that Monday nighter to KC.  Should have been 6-1 getting ready to host GB - and save for some HORRID throws from Philip in 1st Q, a game they could have taken.  Even if lose to GB, Oak and Chicago, should be no worse than 6-4 and tied with Raiders a top division.  Right now, looking like they are expecting to find ways to lose. 

Fresh voices needed from to inject a positive attitude amongst some talented players.   

Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: November 22, 2011 6:44 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Hey still4greenbay, it says he started 2-5 and finished 9-7.  It means he went 7-2 the rest of the way.  You don't add the two together.  What an idiot!

Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: November 22, 2011 6:42 pm

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

While everyone is blaming Norv, few are realizing he's not the one throwing all the interceptions.  He's also not the guy who went with Rivers over Brees.  There is plenty of blame to be shared for the Chargers demise but it starts with the GM Smith.

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