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Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Posted on: November 22, 2011 12:30 pm
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Turner could be looking for work come January. (AP/US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Norv Turner is in his fifth season as the Chargers head coach. He took over the team in 2007 after general manager A.J. Smith fired Marty Schottenheimer for going 14-2. In three of the four seasons since, two things have been constant: the Chargers have gotten off to glacially slow starts only to mount a late-season run and make the playoffs. And San Diego, despite a franchise quarterback and plenty of playmakers, is still looking for its first Super Bowl.
Turner's record in San Diego
2007: Started 1-3, finished 10-2, lost to the Pats in the AFC Championship game
2008: Started 3-5, finished 5-3, lost to the Steelers in the AFC Divisional game
2009: Started 2-3, finished 11-0, lost to the Jets in the AFC Divisional game
2010: Started 2-5, finished 9-7, missed the playoffs 
But 2011 was different; the Chargers started 4-1, were the clear favorites in the AFC West (and even some folks' Super Bowl favorites), and everything was finally coming together. Unfortunately, the new collective bargaining agreement didn't shorten the regular season to five games. San Diego has dropped five straight and is a complete mess of a franchise. Philip Rivers has looked, well, awful, the run defense is non-existent, and head coach Norv Turner, through it all, remained expressionless.

But barring a Tebow-like miracle, Norv won't have to worry about the Chargers much longer. The San Diego Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee writes that Turner's days could be numbered.
At this point, it is apparent only a drastic turnaround will save Turner, as the Chargers have lost five straight and are in last place in the AFC West, in grave danger of missing the playoffs for a second straight season. [Owner Dean] Spanos also has wondered about repeated game management decisions, and after five years it is possible Turner has been given enough time to get done what no Chargers coach ever has – win a Super Bowl.
Ah, yes, those game-management decisions. The latest came Sunday, in the Chargers' loss to the Bears. San Diego lost its final two timeouts with 3:16 to play and trailing by 11. They burned the first one, and then during thee timeout decided to challenge a ruling. The Chargers lost the challenge (of course they did) and another timeout. You don't see that every day.

But Turner isn't the only guy who should be worried about his job. Smith could be in trouble, too. Acee writes: "But even late last week, word had begun to circulate in league circles about Spanos' escalating concern about the state of his franchise in the hands of Turner -- who has the second-highest winning percentage in team history at .608 (45-29) -- and even Smith, the man Spanos has given virtually complete control of football operations over the past nine years."

In general, Smith has done a good job of roster-building and fielding a winning team. But the lack of success in the postseason coupled with Turner's weekly gaffes have started to add up.

Early last season, when Vincent Jackson was holding out for a new deal and Smith refused to budge, Jackson's agent Neil Schwartz said "We had multiple deals in place. It is our understanding … that the Chargers were unreasonable. More than one general manager referred to A.J. as the 'Lord of No Rings.'"

Short of an improbable turnaround, Norv and A.J. might soon be the Lord of No Jobs.

As we mentioned in Tuesday's Coach Killers, maybe Rex Ryan was onto something.

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Comments

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 3:44 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

GOOD!

I've said from day one it was a huge mistake & I'm not even a Charger fan!

The saddest thing is he's had the reigns over some of the best teams the Chargers ever had & failed badly.

I would have to agree with the Charger faithfull that have responded here both Turner & the GM should go!



Since: Aug 6, 2007
Posted on: November 22, 2011 3:36 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

I lump Norv Turner and Wade Phillips in the same cormer. They are both good and proven coordinators. Norv with the Cowboys and the Chargers before he was coach. And Wade with the Chargers and now he has Houston as a top defense. But once they have the head job, they cant do it. The only reason they have made it to the playoffs is because they had so much talent. There wasnt much coaching going on and now that the talent has left or is injured, this is when a coach is supposed to earn his paycheck, and obviously that is not happening.



Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: November 22, 2011 3:28 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Fire AJ. Now. How can you keep your job when you fire a 14-2 coach, let go Drew Brees, LaDanian, and Sproles (with nothing in return) and hire a puppet for a head coach. Kevin Acee is a known hack for AJ. He is hoping to save AJs job by leading the attack on Norv. Fire AJ and let the new GM hire a real coach again. The Chargers need to draft 1st round quality players in the first round, not 3rd and 4th rounders (Larry English, Antoine Cason) in the 1st round. Don't forget, AJ released LaDainian over 2 million dollars, then traded up for the fumble machine that is Ryan Mattews. As soon as AJ had to prove he was 'better' than his mentor John Butler, things began to fall apart. The Chargers can not ride this train any farther or they will end up being the worst team in the NFL.  PS - Rivers will be worse when they lose the offensive genius of Norv Turner. The New coach/general manager better start looking for a real quarterback right away.



Since: Jul 17, 2009
Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:54 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

If Norv and/or AJ go, I hope they cut Nate Kaeding too.  For several years everyone knew they had the best roster, top to bottom, in football with alot of superstars.  Something screwed up always happened.....Kaeding missing FG's all over the place....LT sittin on sidelines in playoff games....Marty burning a challenge and, even more importantly, a precious timeout after Troy Brown stripped Marlon McCree after a possible game-clinching interception.....Gates never being 100% come playoff time.  One thing after another....after another.  Hate to say it, but this team needs blown up.  O-line stinks, D-line sucks, no pass rush at all w/o Phillips (mediocre at best w/him), Jammer gettin older, Floyd unreliable....etc....  Rivers prolly has 5 or 6 solid yrs left....hope at least last 3 or 4 he has quality team around him.



Since: May 12, 2008
Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Norv Turner = good guy.  Norv Turner = bad head coach.  I think the photo montage says it all.  He has enjoyed ZERO success as a head coach and I am amazed that he still leads this team.  Well, actually I am not.  If it weren't for the Bengals ownership, we would say that the Chargers ownership is the worst in the NFL.
I digree...  Norv is not good.  Now, if he loses his job, an NFL team might take a chance on him as O Coordinator, his resume in that area is impecable. 




Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:41 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Hmmm, lol, I said this then and it appears to be coming true to fruition.  Firing Schottenheimer for going 14-2 and replacing him with Norv Turner who is MR Playoff choke, was just stupid and would end in him getting canned.  I called for the GM job then and call for it now.  What a chump.  How do you fire a guy who goes 14-2???????  Ludicrous.  Don't care what they do in the playoffs.  At least they are doing what it takes to get there.  I would take that as a fan because you are competitive and that is part of what the game is about. 



Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:41 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Norv pulled a Lovie Smith -type blunder during the Bears game. With about 3 minutes left in the game, there was a close turnover call and the Bears were scrambling up to the line of scrimmage for a quick snap. Rather than just throwing his red flag and challenging the call - he called a timeout. Then, after the timeout, he threw the red flag - and lost. Result = two TOs burned and a lost challenge. Lovie Smith did the same stupid sequence earlier this year. Norv - just throw the damn flag in the first place. If you lose, you are out only one TO, not two. Stupid. Understand also, that in the final two minutes, every close call gets booth reviewed automatically - so, even if he lost, he'd only have to go one more minute without the benefit of a challenge. Terrible game management.



Since: Jan 21, 2007
Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:34 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

I hate to say this.......but Norv Turner's days were numbered the day he accepted the job to be the Head Coach of the Chargers.



Since: Aug 15, 2011
Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:32 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Norv is being made the scapegoat, they need to fire that sorry arse GM!



Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:31 pm
 

Report: Norv Turner's days could be numbered

Nobody can refute Turner's excellent offensive knowledge, but since he took over Schotteheimer's 14-2 team, they have gone downhill each year. For that matter, take  GM AJ Smith out as well. His bombastic personality precludes having a top notch coach.



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