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Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:05 am
 
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

As if things couldn’t get any worse in Philadelphia, there were reports after the Eagles 38-20 loss to the Patriots that assistant coaches Marty Mornhinweg and Jim Washburn got into a verbal confrontation on the sideline and actually had to be separated before it got physical.

Week 12 in review
And it actually occurred when Philadelphia was still leading New England.

According to CSN Philly, the two have not had problems with each other before, and while there’s been no official word on why the two went after each other on the sideline Sunday, the Philadelphia Daily News speculated that Washburn -- the defensive line coach -- didn’t appreciate the play-calling of Mornhinweg, the offensive coordinator.

Particularly during the second quarter when the Patriots were in the middle of a 17-point spree and Mornhinweg continued calling for pass after pass (you’ll note that Vince Young threw for 400 yards but LeSean McCoy only recorded 10 carries). At one point, the Eagles went three-and-out on three incomplete passes, not giving Philadelphia’s defense enough time to rest.

Which might have contributed to a terrible second quarter for the Eagles defense. Not to mention an upset Washburn.

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Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:18 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

Stallworth killed a person so now dogs are worth more than people. Is that the argument here. Cause that is a problem. I know you feel your pet is a part of the family but a dog is a dog. Some countryies each dogs as food. But they dont eat people. Stall worth payed off the family thats why it was so light. A drunk driver paying off the family of someone he killed while drunk and u say he made a mistake. Iv lost someone because of drunk driver. I would go out and kill 30 dogs If that was the way to get that special person back.
No, you idiot.  The difference here is what Stallworth did was not premeditated.  Yes, he drove drunk, and that was wrong, illegal, etc.  But he did not set out to kill somebody.  What he did was tragic, and it was a crime.  No matter what you think, he did everything that he could to make it right once it happened.  He could not change the outcome, but he stopped, took responsiblity, and you say paid off, I say took care of, the family that lost somebody.  He can't bring the guy back, but he did everything else right.

Vick practiced cruelty continuously for years.  He made money off of it and enjoyed it.  It was a way of life for him.

That was what I was saying.  But I guess analogies are too hard for you to understand.



Since: Sep 27, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:16 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

Maybe I used the Thug comment to liberally.  Vick is a thug and anyone who operates the way Desean Jackson in my estimation is a thug!  

Know the meaning of thug (my opinion)- Not necessarily a criminal but someone who plays selfishly and with the attitude of a criminal.  So maybe in retrospect a punk.  So your Punk comment is right on!  This cancer is throughout the league.  If more teams played like TEAMS, the team with the loaded talent like the Eagles would rise to the top. Everyone considers Belachek a genius, he's no genius what Belachek does really well is evaluate team players that's why every year NE does well.  That's why Haynesworth and Moss couldn't last there.

Mike Vick is a great talent and so is Jackson.  They always show flashes of extreme greatness but in the long run the can't carry a team all the way.

Being a Cowboy fan i see that same punk attitude from Dez Bryant, he's a great talent but will he last that is to be seen!!!



Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: November 28, 2011 5:11 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

Read the article folks. Marty Mohrninweg was calling the plays, not Andy Reid. Also Andy Reid was a QB coach in Green Bay and he doesn't run the ball big surprise.



Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:59 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

I'm not sure why and I don't see the big networks talking about it but this year NFL season has been awful. The play is hard to watch. Again I don't have the answers but let's be honest. This has been some of the worst football played in the NFL in a long time.



Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:46 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

Stallworth killed a person so now dogs are worth more than people. Is that the argument here. Cause that is a problem. I know you feel your pet is a part of the family but a dog is a dog. Some countryies each dogs as food. But they dont eat people. Stall worth payed off the family thats why it was so light. A drunk driver paying off the family of someone he killed while drunk and u say he made a mistake. Iv lost someone because of drunk driver. I would go out and kill 30 dogs If that was the way to get that special person back.



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:41 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

Dream Team!  I just like saying that...almost as much as I enjoy watching the Eagles lose...while I am sitting on the couch with my dog.....he doesn't like the Eagles all that much either.



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:34 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

Simple tarheelgreat4, the conversation has evolved.  Perhaps you should do the same.  Any discussion about the Eagles' woes has to include Andy Reid's playcalling AND personnel decisions.  Vick was one of those personnel decisions.  He has tried to fit Vick (and Young due to injury) into a system that does not suit their skill sets. 

And once you begin to talk about Vick somebody will begin to discuss his past, and others of us (me included) have elaborated our opinion, which is our right.  Freedom of speech is what it is called.  And if others wish to discuss these new items, then the conversation continues, which it has.  If you do not choose to participate in this part of the discussion, you have the right to ignore it and keep quiet.  Please exercise that right.



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:20 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

BTW, before you start jumping on me about my Stallworth comments, and how they don't apply or nobody brought them up, this was only used for analogy purposes.  You can make the same analogy about Plaxico Burress...stupid, but forgiveable and worthy of 2nd chance.  Rae Carruth, no 2nd chance.  Kevin Allen, no 2nd chance.  Many more on both sides.  Each case has to be evaluated on its own individual merits.

For those of you who believe that "everybody deserves a 2nd chance", what about Gary Sandusky?  This is the 1st time he will be convicted (I am assuming that it goes to trial and he is convicted).  If he ever gets out and wanted to go back to coaching (I know, he is retired, but lets just say if...), does he deserve a 2nd chance.  The answer is a big HELL NO! But you guys are saying everybody, and everybody includes him....just saying.



Since: Sep 12, 2008
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:20 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

What does this have todo with the coaches being seperated?... Your talking about Mike Vick and he didnt even play in the game...smh...I guess your personoal opinion about him is more important than the locker room collapsing....SB: I donot agree with what he did I love dogs and have 2 rescues myself however I dont use every forum to talk about him



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 4:13 pm
 

Report: Eagles assistants had to be separated

I never understood that argument.  It's completely asanine.  Everyone deserves a second chance?  I could give you a 1,000+ examples of people not deserving a second chance.....I'll start out withone: skinning a live baby.  Second chance?  Nope, and if you said yes you need to talk to someone.  So in Vick's case it just depends on how big your second chance circle is.  For some people, jail and money put him inside that circle.  For some people, wetting down a dog with a hose and putting jumper cables to each one of its ears because it wouldn't compete in a dog fight when you're worth $130 mil, puts you outside of that circle.  I don't wish harm on the guy, I already know he's a soft a.s.s bi.t.ch for torturing something that couldn't defend itself, I just don't root for his success on the football field.  But anyway, long story short....Not EVERYONE deserves a second chance.


I agree with you here.  What he did was absolutely cruel.  People made the comparison between him and Donte Stallworth, and while Stallworth got off light, he made a stupid mistake, but then he did all the right things immediately afterwards, did not hide from it and took the punishment that was meted out.  Though Vick may also have accepted the punishment, it was not until after he had lied to the NFL, the investigators and the public and was ultimately convicted that he accepted this.  Plus, what he did was premeditated and was a continuous behavior for years and years. 

Mistakes deserve 2nd chances, but not planned cruelty.


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