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Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

Posted on: December 9, 2011 9:46 pm
Edited on: December 9, 2011 9:48 pm
Turner, SmithBy Josh Katzowitz

As just about everybody here at has predicted, Chargers coach Norv Turner likely will be fired after this season, and there’s also a pretty decent chance general manager A.J. Smith will get a pink slip in his final paycheck (probably because the season has "snowballed out of control," moreso than most would have thought).

That’s especially true if Chargers owner Dean Spanos wants to go after former Titans coach Jeff Fisher, because there’s a high probability Fisher wouldn’t take the job if Smith is still in the GM chair.

But according to the San Diego Union Tribune, neither Turner nor Smith should fret too much about their job security. That’s because sources tell the paper that both men would be in high demand if and when they’re banished from the Chargers franchise.
As reporters Kevin Acee and Andrew Burer write, “League sources have said over the past two weeks that if Turner is fired he will be in high demand as an offensive coordinator and his availability could even prompt teams to drop current coordinators. Smith is also predicted to have multiple opportunities should he be jettisoned. … It is believed Smith will be a candidate when the Oakland Raiders hire a general manager job and also be in line for possible job openings in St. Louis and Miami.”

Turner running out of time
That’s because, even with their failings in San Diego, the two are talented football men. Turner was an offensive coordinator in Dallas in the early 1990s when the Cowboys were one of the top offensive teams in the NFL. Unfortunately for Turner, he was not a good head coaching hire for the Redskins, and though the Chargers have had good seasons in the Turner era, he certainly hasn’t taken the organization to the elite level.

Smith took over the GM role in 2003, and since then, the Chargers have had four seasons of at least 11 wins. But his contract disputes with Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill last year have scarred his reputation, and Turner’s failings have become Smith’s failings as well.

Though Smith still has three years and $6 million left on his current contract, it’s seeming likelier that he won’t be around after this year. As one of Acee’s sources said earlier this month, “The needle [on Smith's possible firing] has moved from 50/50 to 75/25."

And for Turner, that needle is at about 100 percent.

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Since: Nov 14, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:44 pm

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

I definitely agree with the Smith firing he has runned the the charges franchise in the dirt with his bad hardball stance and no one wants to come play for the Chargers. He doesn't know how to keep his current talent and players happy. If you want to win you have to pay your stars and time and time again he has shown he isn't willing to buldge or take care of his stars. He will pick and choose the guys he will take care of and give them contracts. There is no way he should have let Darren Sproles get away from the chargers. That is the latest mistake he made and many others in the past that have hurt the team. Norv is a great offensive coordinator and is a decent coach but if AJ had given Norv the pieces that he need Norv would be doing much better this season. I say fire AJ Smith and keep Norv and see what he does next season. He has won and the offense will take a big hit without Norv there. Everyone better believe that.

Since: Dec 10, 2011
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Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2011 11:36 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

Forget Fischer and Reid.  Bring on Chucky!  Want a motivational guy?  He is the answer.  If they can get him to give up his cushy MNF gig that is and I am not sure that will happen.  One can hope.  There is only one thing that will satisfy Chargers fans (and I think I can speak for all of them) and that is a SB win.  The team has a lot of the pieces at key positions, but they need to draft smarter for a change (if they even have any picks left) and make some moves to strenghten the depleted O-Line and actually get a couple of true pass-rushers this off season.  Thats what I would do.  He Mr. Spanos - can I get an interview for the GM position?  I will work cheap (comparatively)! 

Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2011 9:47 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

Unless Fischer's rest did him good and churned some motivation in him, I don't see him as the answer. Problem is you don't know until you give him the keys. There's also the problem with the perception that he ordered the hit on Merriman, which is leading to the end of his career. That water may not be far enough from the bridge yet. Unfortunately, Spanos is dumb enough to go for it - the guy is the point man for Rick Perry's CA campaign. Talk about bad judgment!

Since: Aug 1, 2010
Posted on: December 10, 2011 9:10 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

Do not fire Turner or Smith they are what the Chargers need. Oh, and don't forget vote for the entire Denver Bronco's team for the Pro Bowl. Go Bronco's!!

Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: December 10, 2011 8:35 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

The NFL is notorious for regurgitating losers like these.  They should be blackballed and younger, more creative coaches and GMs given a chance instead.  Let these go to Canada or Europe.  Both are complete frauds.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2011 8:05 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

All these writers always brag about how good of an offensive coordinator Norv Turner is and he is when everything is in place. When there are injuries or the personell isnt playing up to his calls, Norv has no clue how to sdjust his playbook and the teams looks lost. He will continue to call all those deep pass paterns regardless of opponent and put Philip Rivers in bad positions against tought defenses. This is the third year in a row that the Chargers have been under 500 late in the season attempting an end of the year run of the table when there were at least 3 games they should have won earlier in the season. Thats why Norv needs to go. Good coaches find a way to win close games or games they are suppose to win.

Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2011 6:53 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

the colts need to hire norv turner as their offensive coordinator.

can you imagine any guy who just got fired, if your next opportunity is to be andrew lucks coach?? this would make the media collectively s.h.!.t. their pants of the thoughts of the colts high powered offense taking off to where manning left off before he was injured?

Since: Nov 29, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 5:48 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

The Chargers demise shows you that no matter who is coach/GM players need motivation to stroke their fragile egos and Turner is not the guy. Would Jeff Fisher be a good hire, I think yes. Would an up and coming younger coach do a better job. Some one hungry and motivated. Who will want to come to San Diego where underacheiving is the norm and too many distractions all year round. Until a new stadium deal is in place to get the Super Bowl rotation, Chargers org will be hard pressed to get a coach that will turn this apathy around.

Since: Dec 10, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 5:34 am

Even if fired, Turner, A.J. Smith should be OK

Norv is a grat offensive mind, but when it comes to running a team he sucks. Every week we see the defense uninspired and lazy. Same with the offense. He calls good plays, but his players do not believe in him or the system. Everyone here is sick and tired of seeing a lazy football team take the field week in and week out. Norv is an offensive coordinator AT BEST, not a head coach. As for AJ Smith, he couldn't find talent if Adrian Peterson paid him to play for the chargers. He does not handle his players well and will not pay the players that the team needs. He had a good 2004 draft which year by year is falling apart. How is Shawne Merriman after the league took his steroids? how about Buster davis, Larry english, mister 987 cromartie, and Cason doing? year after year another former charger makes big plays. The reason: Aj smith won't pay and turner doesn't run an affective offense for the players he has around him. Norv still thinks he has Aikman, Emmit, and Michael Irvin. With those three you can get away with any play call; with the group the chargers have now? you can't. CH\hargers need a coach who can motivate the players and return them to superbowl contendors. By the way since A.J. smith took over in 2003, only 3 are pro bowlers, (Rivers, Phillips, and Jackson) and the other 5 starters are pedestrian players at best. a total of 8 of 59 players are starting and only 3 of the 58 are panning out. The chargers year in and year out have the worst draft of any team. We would be a 1 win team if it were'nt for Rivers. (P.S. im not including gates because of injuries and him not being drafted, even with Gates added, thats 9 players, most of them injury prone.) Time for a changein San Diego!

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