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Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

Posted on: December 12, 2011 2:38 pm
Edited on: December 13, 2011 10:34 am
 
By Will Brinson

The Tim Tebow media saturation is in full swing Monday. And just in case you don't believe me, someone decided to ring up a preacher and ask him whether or not God is the cause of Tebow's success.

Yes, this "someone" is TMZ. How'd you know? (And the preacher is referred to as "one of Tim's Colorado pastors," although he isn't directly referred to as "Tim's preacher" which leads me to believe he is, in fact, not Tebow's preacher.)

"It's not luck," Hanson told TMZ Monday. "Luck isn't winning 6 games in a row. It's favor. God's favor."

Hanson added "God has blessed his work" and would Tebow be winning if he wasn't such a strong believer in God? Well, "of course not."

TMZ, wanting to get both sides of the story, also spoke with Magus Peter H. Gilmore, a high priest in the Church of Satan (we're not kidding). Gilmore points out that if God is helping Tebow that would mean he is actively ensuring the other team loses. 

Instead, Gilmore says that "Those who have a winning attitude tend to do better, and whatever fuels such team spirit, be it religious fervor or simply an overwhelming desire to succeed, is the real source for success."

He goes on to say, "Satanists are atheists, and we would consider any triumph to rely on a combination of skill and luck – most certainly not in any form of supernatural intervention from either Heaven or Hell."

Now, this makes for fun water cooler chatter and pageviews, but let's be clear: God is not intervening in Tebow's football career. God does not care more about Tim Tebow than God cares about Marion Barber.

Does Tim Tebow succeed because he has a strong faith in something that allows him to persevere in the face of adversity? That's absolutely a possibility. Does Tebow's faith and resolve strengthen those around him? Sure, that's called being a leader. Could this be the karmic rewards of Tebow's actions as a good human being paying him back in kind? If you want to think so, yeah.

But this ain't God staring omnipotently down at 22 men chasing an oblong leather ball, leaning in and flicking the ball out Barber's hands so Matt Prater can crush a long field goal to give the Broncos a regular season win in an NFL game.

God has lots of important things to do. One of them is not something that amounts to "fixing the outcome of football games."

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Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 15, 2011 5:06 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

speaking circularly doesn't hide the fact that your argument is that tim tebow wins because god loves him more than everyone else. you can put that into two paragraphs or 500 pages, but that is what you are saying. if you can't understand the preposterousness of that statement, i don't know that anyone can help you.

Actually, no, we're being consistent and not circular.  God extends His influence and help to everyone on the field.  When the believer thanks God, it's not just for scoring- it's for the ability and effort to do his best.  Believers gather after games to pray- winners and losers together- thanking God for a good contest.  We thank him for protection from injury.  We intercede on behalf of those who had an injury.  Adversity comes in life whether we believe or not.  We seek the grace to serve Him in a manner that is consistent with who we are and who He is.  We want to set a good example and compete so as to make one another better at what we do.  All work is service to God- not just our earthly masters (employers).  We serve as unto the Lord.  We give Him the glory.  You may not like it that we do, but for you to be self- centered, condescending, and resentful doesn't diminish, or take away from God's goodness, kindness to us, and mercy to others.

God may, or may not love Tim more than others.  It doesn't have a thing to do with the outcome of the game, but it has everything to do with how he responds to events in the game, and the outcome.  If God wants Tim to reach more fans by allowing him to win and pique the curiosity of viewers, it's His prerogative.  God will love Tim win, or lose.  Tim will love God win, or lose.  What will be gained by Tim's example may influence the eternal destiny of many people, particularly young people, who haven't yet been turned into cynical, bitter, jaded, drunken know-it-all louts yet.  (hear me, Jerry Jones?) 



Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: December 15, 2011 12:55 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

give it a rest. you religious freaks all sound the same, in every religion. speaking circularly doesn't hide the fact that your argument is that tim tebow wins because god loves him more than everyone else. you can put that into two paragraphs or 500 pages, but that is what you are saying. if you can't understand the preposterousness of that statement, i don't know that anyone can help you.

and the author of this post is only clueless as to the extremely narrow view of spirituality that you have decided is fact. the concept of karma exists in every faith, just under different names. would you argue that christianity rejects the idea that there are consequences for behavior? you don't even understand what you're saying. how do expect anyone else to?



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 10:54 am
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

How utterly arrogant to presume what everyone knows to be true. How is it that Paul presumes to know this? What does it even mean to know such a thing? Where is the proof for God's existence? Isn't it a matter of faith for those who believe?

It might seem arrogant if it was the invention of a man, but if the author is God himself, who gave the message to Paul to communicate, then it is simply a truth person must deal with coming from the Lawgiver and Judge of the universe. The still, small voice that is the Holy Spirit testifies to the veracity of these things- it's a general exercise of the Holy Spirit to all men- those who are chosen for salvation, and those who are not.


That's one way to explain why not everyone agrees with Christianty. Couldn't be that people have different religious experiences, or none at all. Or that they were raised under different religious traditions. Or that they find reasons given by people like Paul to be inadequate. No, it has to be for evil reasons (sin and Satan).

Whether people agree, or not, is irrelevant.  Truth is objective, and only what God says in His Word will be the standard of our judgment- not how we feel, our backgrounds, religion, or orientations.  God will not take a survey, or issue a poll.


So no free will. God determines all that is good, and bad. And who will suffer judgement and who will be saved.

Humans have volition- or will- but it isn't completely free as in independent of God's will.  Man's volition is conditional and limited.  God's will operates independently of human volition and is often above man's ability to comprehend.  A man thinks he comes up with the idea to believe in God- all on his own.  what he may not perceive is the working of the Holy Spirit that created the desire to investigate the claims of Jesus unawares.  

Rebellion is the default.  Sin is the default.  Men will choose evil unless God mercifully interrupts the process and brings him/her to repentence.  The souls and spirits of men are not totally evil, but are all and uniersally flawed by sin without exception.  That is what is meant by total depravity- the totality of creation is flawed, without exception.   



Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2011 10:12 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

You see I wasn't big on believing that God wins games for Tim Tebow until the Church of Satan said that it wasn't true. Now I know it must be true.



Since: Nov 6, 2011
Posted on: December 13, 2011 9:32 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

that`s ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2011 8:42 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

My favorite part is where the Church of Satan says its unfair for God to help a football team. This is coming from the people who believe its ok to cast spells on women so that you can "seduce" them.



Since: Aug 9, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2011 6:28 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

Why did CBS change the title of this article, first it was simply about a pastor simply saying he believed the favor of God rested on Tebow. Then CBS changed it to Church of God , Church of Satan? Is anyone else seeing through this . and who calls up a Church of Satan to ask about a Christian football player? Haha.



Since: Dec 13, 2011
Posted on: December 13, 2011 4:42 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

 -- I am the kind of person that causes people to hate Tebow?  Wow, that's a bold statement to make to someone you will probably never meet and know nothing about!  

Check your heart, brother!  It isn't me and my comments that are making you feel the way you currently do, it is your own conscience--you know within you that judgment awaits after you die, and that the only way to avoid that judgment is through Jesus Christ.  For there is no other name under heaven by which men may be saved.  Sorry if you find that offensive, or intolerant--but wouldn't it be even worse if I truly believed those words and then DIDN'T tell the world about it??



Since: Sep 8, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2011 2:35 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

Drago - Oh my.  You are the type of person that cause people to hate on Tebow.  I love Tebow because his strength of Faith and Belief in himself and his team mates.  You are skewing the important things.  His religious beliefs shouldn't  be important.  They are his and he isn't trying to convert anyone.  You on the other hand...



Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2011 1:39 pm
 

Church of God, Church of Satan weigh in on Tebow

In fact if I am correct, I believe the third section of the Satanic Bible is a section containing details on magic and rituals which is not exactly consistent with atheism.


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