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NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

Posted on: December 13, 2011 8:54 pm
By Will Brinson

Harrison's physical style finally caught up to him. (Getty Images)

Roger Goodell's handed out just a few on-field suspensions during his tenure as NFL Commissioner, but two of those came in the last three weeks, as both Ndamukong Suh and James Harrison were suspended. And if either of those gentlemen cross the line again, they could reportedly face "substantial suspensions."

James Harrison suspended

That's according to's Steve Wyche, who reported Tuesday night that "there might not be much latitude" for guys like Harrison and Suh who have already been suspended once by the league.

"Three games, four games, five games, six games? It could happen depending on the circumstance," Wyche's source said. "They are repeat offenders, which mean suspensions are more likely."

Wyche's source also indicated that had Harrison not hit Browns quarterback Colt McCoy in the head, Harrison "probably have been fine" and avoided a suspension from the league.

Suh finished serving his two-game suspension on Sunday and will return to the field this week. Harrison was suspended on Tuesday morning and is waiting on an expedited appeal to determine his status for Monday night's game against the 49ers.

There's no mention of a specific timeline that encapsulates the not-quite-official warning for Harrison and Suh in Wyche's article, but as we talked about on Tuesday's podcast, Harrison actually played fine-free for quite some time, one has to assume it's permanent.

Additionally, the headline on the league's homepage at -- "Harrison facing lengthy ban for next hit" -- doesn't leave much to the imagination when it comes to what will happen to the Steelers linebacker (or the Lions defensive tackle or any other player who's suspended) with continued violations of on-field policy.

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Since: Jul 27, 2010
Posted on: December 14, 2011 10:57 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

All Harrison has to do is NOT hit guys in the helmet with his helmet. It's not that hard of a concept and frankly, leads to a better, more fundamental tackle anyways. I understand if you don't like the rule. I don't agree, but understand. What I don't get is the people saying "what's he supposed to do? Run away? Not hit the QB? Cradle him to the ground?" NO...all he's supposed to do is put a shoulder in his gut instead of his helmet in his face. THere are hundreds or thousands of other defensive players that have no problem tackling without smashing their faces into the other guy's head, and Harrison just refuses to acknowledge that he is doing something wrong. He just won't believe it and won't hear it. He is convinced he is being targeted and can't see that there is another 90% of the human body that is free for him to hit as hard as he wants. If you don't like the rule...OK, agree to disagree. If you "Can't see how they are supposed to play defense any other way" I stare at you with the most dumbfounded look. All you have to do is hit him anywhere other than his head...ANYWHERE...just not his is that so hard a concept for so many people to understand?

Since: Jul 2, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2011 10:48 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

 i am not a  fan of the UFC as it is now. i followed it early on. i thought it was fascinating, the  clash of styles and variety of moves was interesting.

Agreed 1000%

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 10:11 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

oh so  you had to go there did you ? LOL,  there is an element of our soceity that loves violence the gapers at car crashes etc. hey i am not immune to it. i absolutely love  boxing. i am not a  fan of the UFC as it is now. i followed it early on. i thought it was fascinating, the  clash of styles and variety of moves was interesting.

then Dana white got a hold of everything, he knew people wanted to see  violence and blood, so he changed all the rules and started marketing the product to the action loving crowd that loved that sort of thing and loved the crashes at NASCAR events.  some of the  greatest  fighers in MMA were basically ruled out. Gracie, for example, he didnt care if it took 24 hours to beat you he would stick to his game plan and stay in the guard until you tired or made a mistake, of course the american fans didnt like that so now  the ref will stand you up or the round would end.

ok  ok more exciting no doubt, but not necessary better

now this current version of UFC is relatively new, lets see in  the next 10 years or more what happens to these fighters, lets revisit their situations then . i know this  the shelf life of these fighters does not appear to be  to long. everyone loses and or has a loss some time. with rare exceptions (GSP among others ) champions tend to come and then go. it is a brutal sport,  even the young guys show some of the years on their faces, their ears looking like  masses and scarring all over the faces.

the UFC craze is in full throttle right now, i think that is unfortunate, beacuse a generation of young people are are running into battle for the relatively low pay and the priviledge to make dana white rich. but as i said give it a couple of years. The NFL has been in exisitence about a  100 years, UFC maybe 10, right now it too new for people to have seen the  results and to lose their interest.

Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2011 9:51 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

watching people destroy each other for your entertainment is not being a tough guy it is being selfish. this is not rome and these are not gladitators

Tell that to the fastest growing popularity wise sport right now in the UFC.  People watch because of the hits.. NFL is the same.  or was.  Now goodell wants to turn into an offensive showcase where the defense has their hands tied behind their backs.   There's that.. and the fact that goodell has it out for James.   If it was fair and impartial he wouldn't have been the first to be suspended for only the first questionable hit all year.. when other players are going hog wild without repercussions.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 9:45 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

there really isnt any other way to deal with this anymore. the average NFL player is bigger and faster than the previous version. Fellow Pittsburgh linebacker of lore Jack Lambert says he played at 215 to 225.  add that to the field conditions, todays sportsturf is not the frozen tundra or the muck of torn up grass and mud, todays players can cut and build up all their speed on today's field

it is noticeable watching the old highlights how upright and short stepped the players moved and tackled, their footing was always an issue.

football is a  tough sport.  there is no doubt, but it also has a duty to protect the health and after life of these of players. concussions are no joke any more, the link to repeated brain bruising and dementia is now documented

it is fact of life that all of us tend to think of the now and so do these players, their today is the sports world they live in now, and if the average player only playes 6 years or less this is very narrow slice of their life indeed. ask  dave duerson if he could have those yesterdays back would he?  or some of the countless others that have forever ruined their health playing the game they loved

to think that making the game safer is  a wussification of the game is narrow minded. the game as changed, Nothing stays the same , that's life, deal with it .  until you can control the new size and speed of these great athletes , you are going to have to deal with controlling how much damage they do to each other

watching people destroy each other for your entertainment is not being a tough guy it is being selfish. this is not rome and these are not gladitators,  the nfl is the most successful model for sports in the world, it is nonsense to think that controlling these kinds of hits will ruin this game

Since: Jun 20, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2011 9:40 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

He pulls up one yard shy of the line of scrimmage and suddenly throws the ball.  What's Harrison supposed to do?  He's running at him full blast and McCoy pulls up.  A defender has no idea if a qb is going to pull up or slide, it's pretty tough to stop.  It's getting really stupid.... I can hardly handle this pu*** crap any more.  , it's pretty tough to stop.  It's getting really stupid.... I can hardly handle this pu*** crap any more.  The NFL is a tough game, people will get hurt

Watch the play again.  Harrison LEAD with his helmet and put it on the facemask of Colt Mccoy.  That technique will not only injure the other player, but possible paralyze Harrison himself.  It really is not that hard to lead with his shoulder into Mccoy's chest.   His tackling technique is not taught on ANY level of football.  Funny how 99 percent of other NFL players rarely get called on plays like this.  What part of this don't u understand???? 

Since: Dec 13, 2011
Posted on: December 14, 2011 9:37 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

Roger will also hand out matching pink panties from his collection to all media monions.

Since: Aug 19, 2011
Posted on: December 14, 2011 9:26 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

Can someone send me the link to Seymour's and Chancellor's suspensions, I can't seem to find anything on their suspensions, only Harrison's.  Wait, they weren't suspended?
Hey, how weird, Seymour punches Ben Roethlisberger in the face last year, punches Ritchi Incognito this year, gets ejected 3 times in the last 3 seasons and no suspension of Seymour?? A punch after a play is over is certainly more premediated and egregious than a play in the heat of battle.   But Harrison, the 2008 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, makes a tackle on a QB that is a RUNNER out of the pocket and bang, he's suspended?  Remember Harrison was Defensive Player of the year a mere 3 years ago and played exactly like this. Bottom line is that Goodell sucks and has a hard on for Harrison ever since that magazine interview where Harrison called him the devil and said he wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. If super-sensitive ass-wipe Goodell can't get over that, he should recuse himself from matters Harrison and Steeler related becuase he is obvipously biased. 
Again, the refs call games inconsistently, The same exact hit one week is OK, the next week is a penalty. Worse yet, it depends on which officiaiting crew you get via the luck of the draw.
Not defending helmet to helmet hits. Just would like to see Dicktator Goodelle gone and replaced with someone with some common sense and fairness.

Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 9:23 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to Steelers!!!

God-Hell is making an example of the Steelers like he did with Big Ben:
If you didn't do a crime, you still have to do the time!  What a Dick-tater!!!

Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2011 9:02 am

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators?

NFL to hand out 'substantial' bans to violators Steelers only?

Only explanation when other players have had just as many if not more than harrison has all year.  Seahawks DB, Ray Lewis.   Consistency where is it????

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