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Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

Posted on: December 22, 2011 9:03 pm
 
Barkley returning to school could complicate Washington's QB draft plans. (US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

Quarterback Matt Barkley announced Thursday that he would return to USC for his senior season. It’s an early Christmas gift for Trojans head coach Lane Kiffin, but two NFL scouts called it a “foolish business decision” before invoking the name of Matt Leinart for emphasis.

CBSSports.com’s Will Brinson pointed out that Barkley returning to Southern Cal shakes things up at the top of the NFL draft board for those teams looking for a franchise quarterback. One team potentially unaffected by where Barkley plays football next fall: the Washington Redskins.

2012 NFL Draft
Two things to note: owner Dan Snyder has a long and unimpressive history of mortgaging the team's future for a chance at immediate success (it’s yet to work), and the Redskins will be in the market this offseason for a legitimate starting NFL quarterback (this assumes, of course, that Rex Grossman isn’t that guy).

During a Wednesday radio appearance, ESPN’s Adam Schefter suggested that the 'Skins could be willing to move up on draft day, with one caveat -- the Rams end up with the first-overall pick. The thinking: since St. Louis already has their franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, they would have no interest in Stanford’s Andrew Luck. (The Colts, meanwhile, would take Luck should they finish with the NFL’s worst record.)

“The St. Louis Rams are in a situation where it’s hard to see them winning a [third] game this season,” Schefter said via the Sports Bog’s Dan Steinberg. “If the Colts and Rams finish tied with two wins a piece, it’ll come down to their strength of schedules. But what is interesting about that is if the Rams have the pick, it becomes literally an auction for that No. 1 pick, because the Dolphins, Redskins, Seahawks and other teams all will have an interest in trading up to that spot.

“If somehow the Colts win a game and the Rams don’t, then that pick, for the Rams franchise, would be worth, roughly worth, three [first-round picks] and two [second-rounders], maybe four first-round picks. And so there’s a huge amount at stake if somehow the Colts — who will continue to try to win games — win another game, the Rams lose their two games and somehow come up with that pick.”

Clearly, a lot has to happen before the Redskins can even entertain thoughts of landing Luck. At 5-9, Washington would have the No. 7 pick, but they’re season hasn’t been a huge disappointment because they were one player away from the postseason.

Silver lining: Schefter and just about every other media member suggested that if Luck ends up in Indy and the Colts cut Peyton Manning, Washington might target him (of course they would).


Rex Grossman and the Redskins pulled off a surprising upset last week against the Giants. Can they do it again this week when they welcome the Vikings to FedEx Field? Join NFL.com's Pat Kirwan and Jason Horowitz for a preview of this matchup.

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Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: December 29, 2011 1:23 pm
 

Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

I could see the Vikings definitely taking Luck and trading Ponder.  With no Adrian Peterson for a while...and even if he does comeback it'll be doubtful that'll he'll be the same, the game just got more intersting in this draft.  However, I don't think the Vikings will be in position to take Luck. It'll be Colts or Rams, both of which, I think would draft Luck if they are in the #1 spot.  After that, they can either trade Luck (ala the Chargers with Eli Manning ) OR trade Sam Bradford for some quality draft picks...which would be a great scenario for the Rams when/if Spags gets fired and they pick up their new coach.

Indy might trade for a draft pick but I still think if they get Luck they'll play Peyton Manning for a season (or less) before he retires and takes a job coaching.  He's basically training for that right now anyways.  And lets be honest, Caldwell sucks and will need to be replaced soon..it may not be Manning but could he do worse?  

If that happens it also means the Vikings could very well go after RGIII....however, whoever the #2 pick will be (either the Rams or Colts) will basically have a gold mine to trade down into.  Redskins, Dolphins, and possibly the Cowboys (lol!) could trade up to get RGIII before the Vikings get a chance to land him.

There's a ton of scenarios that could play out.  This will be a fun draft to keep up with. 


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Since: Dec 23, 2011
Posted on: December 23, 2011 11:18 am
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 23, 2011 10:52 am
 

Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

You are nuts. The Rams and the Vikings would certainly trade the pick.

Vikings can't get the number 1 overall pick.  I haven't officially done all the math but as of the end of week 12 when the Vikings were 2-9, their strength of schedule was at .570.  Indi and the Rams at that time were at .508 and .529 respectively.  Minny has played Denver, Detroit and New Orleans since so I highly doubt that number could have dropped the 50 points necessary to make it close. 

It's either going to be the Rams or the Colts that get the number 1 overall pick.  When I just eyeball the teams they've played since the above numbers existed I can tell it's going to be really close if neither team wins another game.  Strength of schedule will determine their fate and it'll be very few percentage points that separate the 2 teams.  I don't feel like doing the math right now, too tired. But it'll be close... assuming of course both St Louis and Indi are tied at 2 or 3 wins after week 17. 

Either way I don't see anybody keeping that pick, not Indi and for sure not St Louis.  St Louis invested huge money in Bradford and aren't going to cut him for Andrew Luck.   And I just can't see Indi dumping Peyton Manning if he and the doctors say he's healthy, that would be a public relations nightmare if Manning goes somewhere else and dominates.  This Andrew Luck draft pick is worth more then a draft pick has been worth in a long long time.  

From what people are writing this pick could be worth a swap of 1sts with another team, an additional 2 or 3 firsts and at least a couple second round picks and maybe even more beyond that.  That could mean the team trading the pick could potentially acquire between let's say 4 to 6 NFL starters for Luck.. for one draft pick.  Way too much for rebuilding teams with multiple needs to turn down. 



Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: December 22, 2011 10:09 pm
 

Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

I figure RG3 will be there when Skins are up to pick.



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2011 10:05 pm
 

Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

I think that the only one of those three teams that might trade the pick is the Colts. The Rams can't be that sold on Bradford after this season. Ponder vs Luck is a no brainer IMO I would take Luck and not look back. Peyton Manning vs Luck gets the gears moving. If Manning's health checks out I would trade the pick if I am the Colts.
Really, luffsta?  If there's one thing I'm absolutely sure of it's that the Rams and Vikings have already spent time discussing, debating, and speculating how much they can get for the #1 pick in trade from teams like the Redskins, Dolphins, and Seahawks who clearly would love to get their mitts on Andrew Luck in the draft.  While I'm not buying into this column's speculation of 2-3 #1 picks and then some for this year's #1, the price will no doubt be exorbitant.

You can be guaranteed that if the Colts are sitting with the #1 overall pick, they'll start negotiating with Andrew Luck long before the draft rolls around.  Getting Luck's signature early is essential.  Understand that Manning is due $28 million before March 1st and cutting him before that date drops his salary cap number under $11 million for 2012 as opposed to $17 million if they keep him around.  Plus you have to consider how much less the #1 pick can get now under the new CBA -- probably no better than the 4 year/$22 million deal Cam Newton received last year.  If they keep Peyton and sign Luck with the #1 pick, the Colts would be putting well over $20 million into one position with a team salary cap number in the $120 millions.  That's insane.  Put the #18 Manning jerseys on the clearance rack because he's gone.




Since: Jul 13, 2011
Posted on: December 22, 2011 9:56 pm
 

Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

remember the days when teams would always wait a year or two before they started first round quaterbacks? i see the colts, if they got luck, starting manning next season to allow luck to learn from the best, then let go of manning and begin the era of andrew luck.
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Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2011 9:38 pm
 

Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

I think it's funny how everyone says that the Colts will take Luck and that the Rams or Vikings would trade the pick. I think that the only one of those three teams that might trade the pick is the Colts.
You are nuts. The Rams and the Vikings would certainly trade the pick.



Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: December 22, 2011 9:18 pm
 

Would Redskins trade up to No. 1 draft pick?

I think it's funny how everyone says that the Colts will take Luck and that the Rams or Vikings would trade the pick. I think that the only one of those three teams that might trade the pick is the Colts. The Rams can't be that sold on Bradford after this season. Ponder vs Luck is a no brainer IMO I would take Luck and not look back. Peyton Manning vs Luck gets the gears moving. If Manning's health checks out I would trade the pick if I am the Colts. If Peyton has 3 years left the picks you got for the rights to the #1 pick would be enough to legitimately make the Colts a contender again as long as Manning is his usual self.


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