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Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Posted on: December 30, 2011 1:32 pm
 
Tebow and Orton meet again on Sunday. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Denver and Kansas City square off on Sunday with plenty at stake: the Broncos want to win the AFC West, and the Chiefs want to give Kyle Orton redemption for being benched and released by Denver earlier this year. Reportedly not at stake, though? Tim Tebow's job as a starter.

That's according to NFL.com's Jeff Darlington, who reports that Tebow is locked as the starter for Denver in 2012, regardless of whether or not the Broncos make the playoffs.

"Sources have indicated, regardless of the outcome Sunday, the Broncos plan to move forward with the mindset that Tebow will remain the team's starter in 2012," Darlington wrote Friday.

Darlington's also got a juicy nugget about the relationship between Orton and Tebow. The Broncos quarterbacks have a fine system that keeps each other accountable (this is common among NFL position players) and the group began fining Tebow when fans bought billboards demanding that Orton be benched and Tebow get starts.

Though this ultimately happened, it pretty clearly created a rift and explains why the Broncos let Orton go. (Darlington also reports that allowing Tebow to have "better control of the locker room" was a deciding factor in Orton's release.) But if letting Orton go ultimately costs the Broncos a shot at the playoffs, it's simply an indefensible decision.


A totally defensible one is keeping Tebow ingrained as the starter. There are many reasons for this. He's under contract in 2012. He won games. He could progress as a passer. There won't be a franchise quarterback available when the Broncos draft next April. Using picks to trade up grab a quarterback ignores other needs. The Broncos are still technically "rebuilding," and drafting defensive players would serve them better. Tim Tebow is an absolute cash cow for the team. Giving him a vote of confidence now only decreases the scrutiny on the situation leading into the final parts of this season.

The list could go on for a while. Which is why it makes a lot of sense for the Broncos to have already arrived at the decision that Tim Tebow's their starter in 2012. Even if their 2011 starter manages to knock them out of the playoff hunt.

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Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 4:23 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

some vitriol for Orton is that he lead the Broncos to their worst record ever last year and started out the same way this year.
Right, because having the worst defense in football had nothing to do with it. When your QB - who was known for being immobile - has a better rushing average than your top 4 RBs, your running game kind of sucks, too. What amazes me is how you give the rest of the team a pass and throw the blame on the one guy who did anything. The only area where the Broncos weren't in the bottom half of the league was passing - Orton's contribution - where they were top 10.

It was obvious he wasn't getting the job done.
What team were you watching? It was obvious that he was the only guy "getting the job done". When he outplayed Jay Cutler his first year, everyone said it was because of Brandon Marshall. Then he turned in even better numbers with career journeymen Brandon Lloyd and Jabar Gaffney. He's had more 4th quarter comeback, game-winning drives than Tebow has had, and if the defense hadn't kept yanking he rug out from under him, he'd have had more.

Look, if the game of football is too complex for you and you want to just stick to your kiddieland version wherein the QB decides all games and takes all credit and blame, just say so. I'm happy to leave you to it. I don't want to confuse or muddy your enjoyment of the game with facts and what actually happened. I have a few friends like you who don't want to learn anything about the game and would rather just shout "So-and-so sucks/rules!" frome the sidelines. No shame in that.

Just don't pretend to understand anything more than that.




Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 4:08 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

some vitriol for Orton is that he lead the Broncos to their worst record ever last year and started out the same way this year.
Right, because having the worst defense in football had nothing to do with it. When your QB - who was known for being immobile - has a better rushing average than your top 4 RBs, your running game kind of sucks, too. What amazes me is how you give the rest of the team a pass and throw the blame on the one guy who did anything. The only area where the Broncos weren't in the bottom half of the league was passing - Orton's contribution - where they were top 10.

It was obvious he wasn't getting the job done.
What team were you watching? It was obvious that he was the only guy "getting the job done". When he outplayed Jay Cutler his first year, everyone said it was because of Brandon Marshall. Then he turned in even better numbers with career journeymen Brandon Lloyd and Jabar Gaffney. He's had more 4th quarter comeback, game-winning drives than Tebow has had, and if the defense hadn't kept yanking he rug out from under him, he'd have had more.

Look, if the game of football is too complex for you and you want to just stick to your kiddieland version wherein the QB decides all games and takes all credit and blame, just say so. I'm happy to leave you to it. I don't want to confuse or muddy your enjoyment of the game with facts and what actually happened. I have a few friends like you who don't want to learn anything about the game and would rather just shout "So-and-so sucks/rules!" frome the sidelines. No shame in that.

Just don't pretend to understand anything more than that.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 4:07 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

some vitriol for Orton is that he lead the Broncos to their worst record ever last year and started out the same way this year.
Right, because having the worst defense in football had nothing to do with it. When your QB - who was known for being immobile - has a better rushing average than your top 4 RBs, your running game kind of sucks, too. What amazes me is how you give the rest of the team a pass and throw the blame on the one guy who did anything. The only area where the Broncos weren't in the bottom half of the league was passing - Orton's contribution - where they were top 10.

It was obvious he wasn't getting the job done.
What team were you watching? It was obvious that he was the only guy "getting the job done". When he outplayed Jay Cutler his first year, everyone said it was because of Brandon Marshall. Then he turned in even better numbers with career journeymen Brandon Lloyd and Jabar Gaffney. He's had more 4th quarter comeback, game-winning drives than Tebow has had, and if the defense hadn't kept yanking he rug out from under him, he'd have had more.

Look, if the game of football is too complex for you and you want to just stick to your kiddieland version wherein the QB decides all games and takes all credit and blame, just say so. I'm happy to leave you to it. I don't want to confuse or muddy your enjoyment of the game with facts and what actually happened. I have a few friends like you who don't want to learn anything about the game and would rather just shout "So-and-so sucks/rules!" frome the sidelines. No shame in that.

Just don't pretend to understand anything more than that.



Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: January 1, 2012 10:12 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

alleygator:  I did not say they were an offensive juggernaut....just that they were a good team that Rex Grossman got to the Super Bowl.  Orton could not lead them into the playoffs.  Not hating on Orton...just stating the fact that they guy does not make good teams better.



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: January 1, 2012 9:11 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

I hope we all have a good year!



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: January 1, 2012 9:10 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Warnerholt you seem to think that Chicago was an Offensive juggernaut around the time when they went to the SB.  I don't remember it that way.  I seem to remember they needed better receivers....hmm....just like they do now.



Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 11:30 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Anyway...Happy New Year to all...even those I disagree with most of the time.  Here is to a successful and peaceful 2012.



Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 8:53 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

OffConstantly:  You are correct again.  Some people seem to have the idea that football is played on a calculator.  Orton does not make decent or good teams better.  Example....in 2005 he played for a good Chicago team...and he got benched before the end of the season and replaced with Rex Grossman....again....Rex Grossman.  In 2006 he doesn't play and the Bears go to the Super Bowl behind Rex Grossman...I believe Orton was third string QB...In 2007 he doesn't get to play much so not much can be said regarding that season...In 2008 he leads the Bears, two years removed from a Super Bowl, to a 9-6 record and missing the playoffs.  He didn't seem to make that GOOD team any better.  He seemed to lead them toward mediocrity.  Again...there is no vitriol toward Orton...he is a good NFL backup quarterback.  The vitriol is toward those who try to make him something he is not....a quarterback who can lead a good team into the playoffs.  Again...he has zero playoff statistics in seven seasons...and his overall record is a mediocre 34-34...and that is with some pretty GOOD teams.



Since: Sep 15, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 7:42 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

some vitriol for Orton is that he lead the Broncos to their worst record ever last year and started out the same way this year. It was obvious he wasn't getting the job done. You only get points for passing yards in fantasy football not real football.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 4:08 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Lotus, isn't that the same O line that was there for the last three games of the season last year?  Seems to me something was different then but I don't remember.
It certainly wasn't pass protection. The Chargers sacked the QB 3 times, hurrying and worrying Tebow into 2 picks. Only versus the also woeful (at the time) defense of the Texans did the running game go anywhere (not counting Tebow - that's of course his forte, the thing he brings to the table that none of the other Denver QBs could match). I'm not saying Tebow didn't change the complexion of the game; of course he did - especially after the offense was overauled to suit his skillset. I'm just saying that in a conventional offense, with Kyle Orton, Willis McGahee doing his thing, and a defense doing what they've been doing, the Broncos could very well have ended up right where they are now.
Look I am not saying Orton is the whole reason or that he isn't a good QB, but he needs to be in a place like Baltimore or Atlanta or NewYork or Foxboro where they have the weapons that he can throw to without having to move off the spot.
Well, as you correctly point out, "moving off the spot" is not Orton's strong suit (ironically, Orton had a better rushing average in 2010 than Moreno, Buckhalter, Ball, and Maroney. It really was that bad). As I've maintained all along, Orton will not make a bad team good. You need elite QBs for that. Orton isn't elite. What he can do - as you suggest - is take a decent or good team and make them better. With a decent O-line, respectable run game, and adequate defense, Orton will get the job done. He's shown that repeatedly. But with no protection, no run threat, and constantly having to play catch-up because of an awful defense, he's going to do what he did in Denver for two years - a good job, but not spectacular enough to carry a bad team.

My only "beef" in any of this is the inexplicable need by quite a few Broncos fans (not including you, as it happens) to drag Orton through the mud. Not to compare any of these QBs, but the New England Patriots didn't need to drag Drew Bledsoe through the mud just because Tom Brady took over. It was just time to change directions. Again, not comparing the QBs, only drawing an analogy with a similar situation, the Broncos' success with Tebow should be enough. Orton put in good work, wasn't a diva or a cancer, and exited quietly when he was shown the door. The vitriol against Orton is just puzzling.


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