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Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Posted on: December 30, 2011 1:32 pm
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Tebow and Orton meet again on Sunday. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Denver and Kansas City square off on Sunday with plenty at stake: the Broncos want to win the AFC West, and the Chiefs want to give Kyle Orton redemption for being benched and released by Denver earlier this year. Reportedly not at stake, though? Tim Tebow's job as a starter.

That's according to NFL.com's Jeff Darlington, who reports that Tebow is locked as the starter for Denver in 2012, regardless of whether or not the Broncos make the playoffs.

"Sources have indicated, regardless of the outcome Sunday, the Broncos plan to move forward with the mindset that Tebow will remain the team's starter in 2012," Darlington wrote Friday.

Darlington's also got a juicy nugget about the relationship between Orton and Tebow. The Broncos quarterbacks have a fine system that keeps each other accountable (this is common among NFL position players) and the group began fining Tebow when fans bought billboards demanding that Orton be benched and Tebow get starts.

Though this ultimately happened, it pretty clearly created a rift and explains why the Broncos let Orton go. (Darlington also reports that allowing Tebow to have "better control of the locker room" was a deciding factor in Orton's release.) But if letting Orton go ultimately costs the Broncos a shot at the playoffs, it's simply an indefensible decision.


A totally defensible one is keeping Tebow ingrained as the starter. There are many reasons for this. He's under contract in 2012. He won games. He could progress as a passer. There won't be a franchise quarterback available when the Broncos draft next April. Using picks to trade up grab a quarterback ignores other needs. The Broncos are still technically "rebuilding," and drafting defensive players would serve them better. Tim Tebow is an absolute cash cow for the team. Giving him a vote of confidence now only decreases the scrutiny on the situation leading into the final parts of this season.

The list could go on for a while. Which is why it makes a lot of sense for the Broncos to have already arrived at the decision that Tim Tebow's their starter in 2012. Even if their 2011 starter manages to knock them out of the playoff hunt.

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Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: December 31, 2011 2:18 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

The Broncos lost games because their defense, O-line, and run game sucked. Orton wasn't the problem.

Lotus, isn't that the same O line that was there for the last three games of the season last year?  Seems to me something was different then but I don't remember. 

Look I am not saying Orton is the whole reason or that he isn't a good QB, but he needs to be in a place like Baltimore or Atlanta or NewYork or Foxboro where they have the weapons that he can throw to without having to move off the spot.




Since: Aug 10, 2008
Posted on: December 31, 2011 1:42 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

did not pad his stats to work on spreading the ball around to win a National Title and SEC Conference Championship
LOL!  Perhaps the dumbest thing ever written on this site! 

As a sophomore, he won the heisman while "leading" the mighty Gators to a 9-4 record, a third-place finish in the SEC East and a Citrus Bowl loss.  The Gators ran 847 offensive plays with Tebow running or throwing 561 times or 66.12%. 

As a junior the Gators ran 874 offensive plays and 560 (54.23%) were Tebow runs or passes.

As a senior the Gators ran 918 offensive plays and 531 (57.82%) were Tebow runs or passes. 

All three years Tebow ran the ball more than twice as much as the next two guys COMBINED. 

So to summarize:  three years as a starter; one SEC championship; calls his own number about 60% of the time.  Unselfish?  I don't think so. 

And don't forget that both the Florida High School Atlhetic Association and the NCAA passed "Tebow rules" to prevent guys from following in Timmy's footsteps and putting themselves above the team.  If TO or Iverson had that on their resume .....


Stats from here:  http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb

/schools/florida/2007.html





Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: December 31, 2011 12:41 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Duh... its a team sport.  One guy doesn't win it all for you.


Tell that to Colts fans..lol  



Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: December 31, 2011 12:36 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Duh... its a team sport.  One guy doesn't win it all for you.  It takes the whole team from the trainers, strength/conditioning coaches, coaches and the players.  Tim Tebow had a nice supporting cast at UF but bottom line he was the best player on the field and that includes the opposing team.  A Heisman as a Sophmore ..never been done.  He could have won again but unselfishly did not pad his stats to work on spreading the ball around to win a National Title and SEC Conference Championship.  And of course Tebow will be the starter in Denver next year.  He's 8 and 4 in his first 12 starts on a very mediorce team.  Give him some offensive weapons and my God let the kid get some experience before passing judgement.  If Favre, Rodgers, Brady, P. Manning and Brees had been judged on their first 12 games they would be holding clipboards in Buffalo, Kansas City or selling insurance for Geico in Podunkville.



Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 10:36 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

OffConstantly:  You are fighting a losing battle against a guy who refuses to recognize Orton's mediocrity.  Just be thankful he is not in a Bronco uniform anymore.  Pretty soon Orton will be relegated to the role that suits him best......career back-up.



Since: Aug 10, 2008
Posted on: December 31, 2011 8:40 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Do NFL draft picks Percy Harvin, AAron Hernandez, Riley Cooper, Cornelius Ingram or Louis Murphy think he was selfish? He got em the ball enough for them to make it to the NFL and Harvin was a 1st rd pick. 
Glad you brought those guys up becuase it proves my point.  If Tebow makes everyone around him so much better, how come only ONE offensive skill position player from the Tebow era was a first round draft choice?  With Wuerffel, Grossman and other UF qb's there were first round draft picks every year and at all the offensive skill positions. 

Looks to me like Hernandez, Cooper, Ingram, Murphy, etc got to the NFL in spite of Tim Tebow and Urban Meyer, not because of them.  And I think they were all Zook recruits but that's another story.  Finally, if Tebow had handed off instead of calling his own number all the time, there could be some running backs on that list. 

And to the guy who brought up Fred Taylor, are you aware that his kid (a HS football stud) said there was no way he would go to UF with that qb and that offense in place?  Its the same reason Trent Richardson went to Alabama and not UF like another Pensacola kid named Emmitt Smith,  The Meyer/Tebow system may have made Timmy a hero but it set the program back years. 



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: December 31, 2011 6:50 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

It sounds like the sane, rational Broncos fans who see Tebow for what he truly is - maybe a nice guy but a poor quarterback who cannot throw accurately on a consistent basis - have to put up with the Tebowner fanatics and the media circus and over-hype for yet another year.The fixation the media has on this one player is sickening as are the weirdos who all of a sudden have allegedly become Denver Broncos fans because of Tebow.  More games like last week's debacle in Buffalo, or worse yet like Tebow's second start of the season against the Detroit Lions, will lead to his inevitable benching.  Throwing motions are almost impossible to change at this point in an athlete's life and the fact that Tebow can't make good reads does not portend well for his future.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 31, 2011 5:03 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Since I've always worked Saterdays I've never really followed the college game.I had no Idea Tebow had weapons like Harvin & Hernandez at his disposal.Maybe -No Not Maybe, those players made Tebow a success in college.



Since: Sep 15, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 4:57 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

BS, Orton is doing the same thing in KC, he did in Denver and Chicago...settle for many FG's. He's thrown for nearly 6OO yards in 2 games with the Chefs...1 TD. The ultimate garbage time QB who put up his best numbers when the game was already over. This year he fumbled the ball vs Oakland without a defender near him in FG range down by 3 points...we lost by 3. Vs the Titans our D held em to 17 but we lost when Orton got intercepted again in FG territory down 3. He got benched in the SD at halftime after going 6-13 for 34 yards and a pick with 3 pts on offense. Orton has a 34-34 career record, 25 of his wins are when the opponent scored 17 or less. In the clutch Orton failed more often than not and that a fact.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 12:34 am
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

last year vs the Chiefs, our D held them to 1O pts, Moreno had 161 rushing yards. We lost 1O-6,! Orton was 9-28 for 117 yards and O TDs. He followed that performance up with a 19-41 for a 163 yards, O TDs and 3 INT game vs the 4-9 Cardinals. And for everyone saying he led the league in passing...in passing yards, not TDs or points, yards. Vs the Colts he had 476 passing yards and we scored a whole 13 points.
You mean the game where the Chiefs gashed the Broncos for 185 yards on the ground, eating up 37 minutes of clock and dominating the defense? The one where two different Chiefs had multiple sacks because the O-line was terrible? Good exception, since it was his second-worst game of the season and the first one in which he failed to post a TD.

But don't act like it was the rule. In the game before that, he torched St Louis for 347 yards, 3 TDs and no INTs. Skip back over one game, and it's 294 yards, 4 TDs and no picks. Against the vaunted Ravens, he threw for 314, 2 TDs and no picks. The game before that was one of his 4th quarter, game-winning, comeback drives. And then there was the ass-kicking he handed the Seahawks with 307 yards, 2 TDs and no picks.
And the Colts? Are you seriously knocking Orton because he couldn't keep up with Peyton Manning? You want to know why the Broncos only scored 13 points (the lone TD being Orton, of course)? Because Moreno and Buckhalter combined for 36 yards on the ground, and Josh McDaniels got struck stupid every time Denver went into the red zone. The man was a fount of terrible red zone decisions, trying to punch it in with no O line and two backs that couldn't run through a grade school playground. You know who was the #2 QB in the league in the red zone at that time? Guess.

Look, I'm not trying to make Orton out like he's elite or anything. I just get annoyed with the ignorant idiocy and unmerited vitriol. The Broncos lost games because their defense, O-line, and run game sucked. Orton wasn't the problem.


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