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Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Posted on: December 30, 2011 1:32 pm
 
Tebow and Orton meet again on Sunday. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Denver and Kansas City square off on Sunday with plenty at stake: the Broncos want to win the AFC West, and the Chiefs want to give Kyle Orton redemption for being benched and released by Denver earlier this year. Reportedly not at stake, though? Tim Tebow's job as a starter.

That's according to NFL.com's Jeff Darlington, who reports that Tebow is locked as the starter for Denver in 2012, regardless of whether or not the Broncos make the playoffs.

"Sources have indicated, regardless of the outcome Sunday, the Broncos plan to move forward with the mindset that Tebow will remain the team's starter in 2012," Darlington wrote Friday.

Darlington's also got a juicy nugget about the relationship between Orton and Tebow. The Broncos quarterbacks have a fine system that keeps each other accountable (this is common among NFL position players) and the group began fining Tebow when fans bought billboards demanding that Orton be benched and Tebow get starts.

Though this ultimately happened, it pretty clearly created a rift and explains why the Broncos let Orton go. (Darlington also reports that allowing Tebow to have "better control of the locker room" was a deciding factor in Orton's release.) But if letting Orton go ultimately costs the Broncos a shot at the playoffs, it's simply an indefensible decision.


A totally defensible one is keeping Tebow ingrained as the starter. There are many reasons for this. He's under contract in 2012. He won games. He could progress as a passer. There won't be a franchise quarterback available when the Broncos draft next April. Using picks to trade up grab a quarterback ignores other needs. The Broncos are still technically "rebuilding," and drafting defensive players would serve them better. Tim Tebow is an absolute cash cow for the team. Giving him a vote of confidence now only decreases the scrutiny on the situation leading into the final parts of this season.

The list could go on for a while. Which is why it makes a lot of sense for the Broncos to have already arrived at the decision that Tim Tebow's their starter in 2012. Even if their 2011 starter manages to knock them out of the playoff hunt.

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Since: Aug 10, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2011 9:06 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

why do you say that TT is selfish, yet you have Gators as your favorite team
Because, believe it or not (and in spite of what the Gainesville Sun seems to think), there are plenty of other athletes and football players at UF.  One unselfish apple is not enough to spoil the whole bunch.



Since: Aug 10, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2011 9:02 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

ALLEY-GATOR - I don't think I'm degrading Tebow or his efforts, just trying to line the facts up against the hype. 

As for Tebow's selfishness, if you are really a Gator fan you should be well-versed in it by now.  Not involving his teammates is certainly one aspect of it - I think you could fairly compare him to Allen Iverson and other "point guards" who refuse to pass and want all the shots/glory. 

Throwing teammates like Chris Leak and Kyle Orton under the bus to get their jobs also doesn't fit my definiton of unselfish.  Nor does expecting your high school/college/pro teams to change their entire offensive philosophy just to accommodate you.  Nor does calling a press conference to talk about yourself and your humility.  Or having camera crews following you around for your entire life so that your exploits can be captured forever. 

And I'm sure you know that both the FHSAA and NCAA have passed "tebow rules" to make sure kids don't follow in Timmy's footsteps and put themselves above thier teams/schools.  If that was on the resume of any other player he would not be branded unselfish.





Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: December 30, 2011 8:54 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

"But if letting Orton go ultimately costs the Broncos a shot at the playoffs, it's simply an indefensible decision."

This is the most stupid comment I have ever read by a writer.  Heck, with Orton they were 1-4.  Letting Orton go isn't going to keep them out of the playoffs.  If they kept him they never would be in a position to make it to the playoffs.  It's TEBOW TIME!!!  Even John Elway has had to swallow his big ego.  What does that tell you!  For once the "good guy" wins.  Wish Tim Tebow a great career.  There is no finer person.




Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2011 8:15 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

oosterbaan,

Your post was not exactly profound itself.  Crying about the way the Tebow fans have been responding to your post is rediculous.  There are plenty of Tebow fans that can give you a lot of reasons why he is a good QB, and should be the starter for 2012.  First of all, like the article said, Tebow is a cash cow.  I sure that you would love to believe that all of these players and owners are in the football business for the glory of the game, but the fact is money is the most important factor.  The Bengals had a great season, by their standards, and had all but one of their games blacked out.  The Chargers have been a great team for the last decade, and they have had most of their games blacked out too.  The Broncos, on the other hand, rock out in ticket sales year in and year out.  Granted, the Broncos have been to more super bowls than every team other than the Cowboys and Steelers, but it is still pretty impressive what they are able to do in a city much less populated than San Diego.  The fact is, people love Tim Tebow, and these are not just Bronco fans.  The media loves him, the NFL loves him, his own players love him, and the world in general loves him.  He is probably one of the greatest human beings in the history of the NFL and the world in general.  He gives everything that he has to help people that are less fortunate, and thanks god everyday for everything good that has happened to him.  I am not very religious, but I don't know how people can hate someone like him.  It's like hating Mother Teresa. As soon as the game is over he runs over to the hospital to spend time with a child dying from cancer, or he hangs out with a promising young high school athlete that had his leg removed.  A lot of these NFL players do the minimum amount of charity required by the NFL.  Tebow, on the other hand, goes so far past the minimum it is unbelievable. 

As someone stated earlier, take a quick look at Terry Bradshaw's career numbers.  You would be baffled as to how he remained an NFL QB.  In his first season as a starter he had a 38% completion percentage on 218 attempts.  He also threw 6 TD's to 24 INT's.  The next 8 years weren't much better as he had two seasons where he mananged to record more TD's than INT's.  Yet he won 4 super bowls, and is considered one of the better QB's in NFL history.  Tebow has blown Bradshaw's first couple seasons out of the water.  You think because he isn't lighting the world on fire statistically that he isn't a good QB.  You couldn't be a more pathetic football fan if you think that stats, or slow starts to games are what define a football player.  Nobody remembers all those bad seasons from Bradshaw all these years later.  All they remember is that he won 4 super bowls in his career.  Dan Marino, on the other hand, has all the statistical glory that a player could ever want, but he never got to hoist the lombardi trophy one time in his career.  If you think that Dan Marino had a better career than Bradshaw then you are obviously don't understand football.  All that matters in the end is wins.  Nobody cares how great you look throwing a football, or how high your completion percentage is. 

There is no doubt in my mind that Tebow's game needs a lot of work.  Lucky for us Bronco fans, he works harder than just about anybody during the offseason.  It is obvious that he has the ability if you have spent any time watching him.  He can make the throws when he has to, and he can win when he has to.  When Bill Bellicheck was asked what he thought about the critisism that Tebow has received he said that he definitely did not agree.  He said he can make the short passes, the intermediate passes, and the long passes.  He can do anything that is asked of an NFL QB.  I would have to listen to the coach that will eventually be in the  hall of fame coach before I would listen to a hater that obviously knows very little about football.



Since: Sep 15, 2009
Posted on: December 30, 2011 7:59 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Defense and bad teams helped make that winning streak, if you disagree with me then how about providing some evidence for your opinion, instead of the usual response roughly equivalent to "nuh uh".
The D gave up 23 vs the Texans, 24 vs Raiders and 32 vs the Vikings, all comeback wins. Broncos scored 24, 38 and 35 pts to win those games. I'm sure you will say those were bad teams. With your logic, all young QB's should win every game vs a bad team right? 

Nuh uh!

Tebow has played about the equivalent of 14 total games in his career. 10 starts this year plus a half game and 3 last year and a few plays in others.

So 14 games, 2323 passing yards, 17 TDs, 8 INTs, 871 rushing yards and 12 rushing TD's. 

29 TD's, 3193 total yards in 14 games is pretty good in my book for a young QB. 







Since: May 6, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2011 7:52 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Big mistake for Denver.  Tebow can't pass and you need a QB that can pass in the pocket b/c the "spread attack and Tebow Time" have already been figured out by two of the worst D's in the league (Pats, Bills).  I think Tebow sucks though so I'm thrilled to see him bring down the team in 2012 and all this "believing" and "tebowmania" will finally go away.




Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: December 30, 2011 7:40 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

But to claim that the qb position is solely responsible for wins and losses is beyond moronic, as is believing that tebow was primarily responsible for Denver's six game winning streak. Defense and bad teams helped make that winning streak, if you disagree with me then how about providing some evidence for your opinion, instead of the usual response roughly equivalent to "nuh uh".
Yes, there a quite a few Tebow fans with their heads in the sand, but there are reasons to keep him around, I think.

First, the Broncos' gameplan works - for now. Tebow doesn't need to be a great - or even good - passer to win enough games to make Denver relevant and keep fans tuning in. The defense and running game have put Denver in a position to win games, and excepting a couple of dreadful performances, Tebow hasn't let his team down much. He does enough in the current gameplan.

And consider the Minnesota game, wherein Tebow went 10-15 for 202 yards and 2 TDs. Granted, it's the exception rather than the rule, and those aren't exactly mind-blowing stats, but what they show is that Tebow can throw in the right conditions. Remember, Tebow is a project QB. He's not going to be a good passer or even show that he can be for another 1-2 years. But it can be done.

So, you have a decent gameplan that may not win Denver the Super Bowl right now (but does just enough), and you have a project QB learning the NFL passing game. This is the story of almost all QBs in the NFL. It's not like the Bengals aren't gameplanning to minimize Andy Dalton's exposure. Some day, they won't have to. The same might be said for Tebow. It might take a little longer, but what else does Denver have going on? They already booted their best passer, and another doesn't look likely anytime soon.

Sticking with Tebow is a gamble, because he'll either sink the franchise for 5 years or more, or he'll explode once a good QB guru fixes his issues. Do they take the gamble? That - to me - is the real question.



Since: Sep 15, 2009
Posted on: December 30, 2011 7:38 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

he closest thing to a point they actually make is that tebow has led a few comeback victories.
He has 5 comebacks already in his 13 starts and an 8-5 record. 

 
But to claim that the qb position is solely responsible for wins and losses is beyond moronic, as is believing that tebow was primarily responsible for Denver's six game winning streak.
Who said he was solely responsible? He played a big role in the wins as did the defense, ST, coaching. The team was 1-4 when he took over and 4-12 last year. So winning 7 of 10 games is a huge improvement. 



 
Defense and bad teams helped make that winning streak, if you disagree with me then how about providing some evidence for your opinion
You could say the same thing about any of Cam Newton or Andy Dalton's wins. Dalton is 1-6 vs teams with a winning record, beating the 8-7 Titans. A perfect 8-0 though vs teams with a losing record.

Newton is 1-7 vs teams with a winning record, beating the Texans a couple weeks ago. 5-3 vs teams with losing records. 

Neither QB has won a game when the opposing team scores more than 21 points. Dalton is 0-4 and Newton is 0-9.

I'm writing this to point out that they are young QB's and like Tebow, shouldn't be scrutinized for these type of numbers. I think both of those QB's are having awesome rookie seasons but like Tebow their defense came through in the wins and they also won vs some bad teams.



 



Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: December 30, 2011 7:30 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

If Tebow works on his passing he can be an NFL QB. I'm a Seahawk fan but every game I've seen Tebow play, he has improved. Will be interesting to see if he progresses.



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: December 30, 2011 7:20 pm
 

Report: Tebow Broncos starter in 2012 regardless

Is Tebow the next Big Ben?  Doubtful.  Or Brady, Brees...ect.  Very doubtful.  But right now he's the best option we have.  To say he is a solid NFL QB right now is moronic.  But to say he has absolutely no chance whatsoever to improve his game is also moronic.  This is the guy's 2nd full season and his 1st as the full-time starter. It seems that people are quick to mail in their verdict on Tebow, more so than any other player in recent memory.  Would we be 1 game from a division title with Orton?  Very doubful.  The guy makes the whole team better.  They play harder for Tebow than they did for Orton.  I'm seeing more inspired play from the whole team with Tebow.  One game at a time people.  One game at a time.



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