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Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:28 am
Edited on: January 2, 2012 10:04 am
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The decision on Norv won't be made for 'a couple days.' (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

It wouldn't be surprising if Norv Turner were booted as coach of the Chargers on Black Monday (coming in a few hours to a box office near you!), but it's looking unlikely that he'll lose his job immediately.
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San Diego President Dean Spanos, who reportedly expressed support for the Bolts during their late surge, said he'd take "a couple days" to decide the fate of Turner and general manager A.J. Smith.

"I’m going to sleep on this for a couple days," Spanos said, per Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune. "There are a lot of things I want to think about. I’m looking at the entire organization."

Norv was a little less optimistic sounding when asked about returning in 2012, according to our Chargers Rapid Reporter Dan McLellan.

"I don’t need to answer that because there’s going to be a decision made, and we’ll all know what it is, and what my opinion right now is probably doesn’t have a lot of effect," Turner said. "I’ll leave it at that."

Turner, for all the criticism he receives, has the support of his team.

“I really believe in him,” quarterback Philip Rivers said. “I can’t speak for every guy, but the guys that have been here and know what this league’s about, they all believe in him, too, and they all want him here. We all want him here."

Rivers reference to "we" probably includes Spanos as well; there's no doubt he believes the team has the talent to succeed and feels like the Chargers are close to contending.


The problem is simply that Norv can't get San Diego to turn the corner. He's obviously an offensive genius and his players clearly love him and a lot of times, Turner's teams look like potential world champs.

But with the continual disappointment of this Bolts regime it's going to be hard for Spanos to justify rolling with the status quo into 2012.

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Since: Dec 29, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 8:21 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

Thanks Boltbacker.  Do you think he would be offended if we fired him as HC then offered him a position as OC?  hahaha.



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 4:35 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

As a Charger fan, I never really doubted Norv's ability to draft up an offensive game plan and implement it per the opponent's strengths and weaknesses.  He clearly has a good offensive mentality.  However, that's not all you need in a coach.  You need a guy who can motivate his team, manage the clock, and instill discipline in his players.  This is where Norv just doesn't cut it.  Again, as an OC, there is nobody better.  But putting the whole package together is not something Norv seems to be able to do.


Well said Nirvana!  This sums it up right here to the exact point!  X's and O's are his forte, managing men to a championship level... will never be. 



Since: Jul 8, 2011
Posted on: January 2, 2012 4:23 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

incredibe..only the cheapskate chargers would even consider bringing this bone head back



Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 2, 2012 3:44 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

"obviously" an offensive genuis???  Are you kidding me?  The amount of times this guy has done the old 3 and out as we near the end of the game only to give the ball back to an offensive power house tells me he is incapable of leading a team in the NFL.  Send him back to be an "offensive genuis" to another team and let him live out his days there.  He has done nothing but turn a great team into a mediocre team, at best.  I love the Chargers and will always support them but I will not be very enthusiastic until I see Norvie backing his bags.



Since: Aug 4, 2011
Posted on: January 2, 2012 2:58 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

I am 1st and foremost a JETS fan. However, I am a HUGH Phillip Rivers fan and i believe the Chargers offense for the most part is EXPLOSIVE. At times they look like they are a cohesive unit. I believe its the Defense that needs more work then the offense and that the offense and Rivers will degress without Norv, the offensive genius there.



Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: January 2, 2012 2:33 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

A.J. Smith needs to go more than anyone. His ego sucks. the Chargers can't get player to come to San Diego because nobdy wants to play for Smith. He has let better players go then he has kept and got nothing for the good player that have left. He is on if not the worst GM in the NFL.They have also lost better coaches then theyget every year also. Turner and Smith combo is a joke let them both go!!!!!



Since: Dec 29, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 2:20 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

As a Charger fan, I never really doubted Norv's ability to draft up an offensive game plan and implement it per the opponent's strengths and weaknesses.  He clearly has a good offensive mentality.  However, that's not all you need in a coach.  You need a guy who can motivate his team, manage the clock, and instill discipline in his players.  This is where Norv just doesn't cut it.  Again, as an OC, there is nobody better.  But putting the whole package together is not something Norv seems to be able to do.  



Since: Dec 24, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 2:18 pm
 

Good luck, Norv

As a Broncos fan, I hope to see Norv Turner return as head coach of the Chargers in 2012.  The Broncs need all the help they can get.



Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 2, 2012 2:04 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

It's laughable that you think Turner has had a good run at SD, noting that his worst season is 8-8.  This Charger team is a super bowl contender, and his record as SD head coach got worse every single year.  First year coach usually has a great record, which Turner did have, but it's the next three years that one can tell whether the guy is really a great coach or not.  Norv has proven himself as not a head coach material time after time, team after team.  He has failed in Washington, Dallas, and Oakland, and now SD.  All he is is a great OC, nothing more.  And for that matter, AJ should also be fired for hiring Norv in the first place!  I'll give AJ credit for putting together is Charger team.  He acquired all these great ingredients, but hired the worst possible chef to cook the meal.  The Spanos don't know what the heck they're doing!  They should never have fired Schottenheimer.  With Schottenheimer and this Charger team, we know for sure we'll be in the playoffs every single year.  I know Schottenheimer doesn't have a good playoff record, but he would've taken Cleveland to the super bowl twice years ago (and might have won one) if not for Elway.  Don't forget it took Holmgren at least five years or so to win a super bowl at Green Bay, and Cowher at least like nine years to win one at Pittsburgh.  So, in my opinion, both AJ and Norv MUST GO!



Since: Feb 27, 2010
Posted on: January 2, 2012 2:01 pm
 

Spanos taking 'a couple days' on Turner, Smith

I'm unsettled on this one. SOMETIMES, Norv's playcalling, particularly around the goal line, is predictable (and stuffed by the defense). The Chargers DO have a strong offense and without the injuries on both sides of the ball on the line they PROBABLY get in. Forget that, they DO get in, they should have been in already (that Rivers fumbled snap is the perfect metaphor for this season). IF they got in at 9-7, Norv would be safe...probably.

It's AJ that's gotta go. Where are the impact rookies? AJ is better judged by who he let go than who he "found". Michael Turner. Sproles. Brees. I can't add LT because his time was up. But I CAN add 13-3 head coach Marty Schottenheimer, fired because AJ didn't like him...

If you fire a 13-3 coach and bring in "your" replacement...he'd better do the same quality job or better, not worse. If you take a step or three backwards because of it, your judgement and performance becomes questioned. That's right, AJ, you deserve to go. And I know you're reading this...


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