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Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Posted on: January 3, 2012 4:25 pm
 
One way or the other, Flynn's getting paid this offseason. (US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

After what Packers backup quarterback Matt Flynn did to the Lions Sunday -- 31 of 44 for 480 yards and a team record six touchdowns -- we joked on the Pick-6 Podcast (embedded below for your listening pleasure) that the performance would mean the Redskins would be first in line to throw a ton of dough in Flynn's general direction.


We stress "joked."

Then on Tuesday we saw this tweet from ESPN 980's Chris Russell: "Heard Matt Flynn's great performance Sunday generated a lot of buzz & positive chatter amongst the big names of the #Redskins organization."

Of course he did.

Look, Flynn had a mind-blowing afternoon against Detroit, and he also played well during a 2010 start against the Patriots. And in that sense, he's already more accomplished than Kevin Kolb was before he was anointed "the next franchise quarterback" last offseason. The Cardinals gave up a second-round pick and cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, and signed Kolb to a $63 million extension. In return they got nine starts, nine touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 57.7 completion percentage and a ton of questions.

The takeaway: don't devote a non-trivial portion of your salary cap to someone who plays the most important position on the field based on a handful of snaps. Somehow, that wasn't entirely clear to everyone.

The Canton Repository's Steve Doerschuk writes that the Browns could also be interested in Flynn. Doerschuk doesn't cite a source but writes that "There is no question Mike Holmgren would rush soon-to-be-free agent Matt Flynn hard. The only question is how much the Browns president likes the [Flynn]."

Is Flynn an upgrade over Colt McCoy, who Holmgren selected in the third round of the 2010 draft? Sure. Is he so much better than McCoy that the Browns should pay him starter's money to find out? Almost certainly not.

But as CBSSports.com's Will Brinson pointed out in Monday's Sorting the Sunday Pile, Flynn made himself some coin with Sunday's effort. "That's going to translate well when he becomes an unrestricted free agent and potentially becomes the most desirable quarterback on the market. There are lots of teams that need a quarterback and Flynn will be on everyone's radar just as much as Robert Griffin III and Andrew Luck. If someone falls in love with him, he might get Kevin Kolb money."

To paraphrase Chris Rock, we're not saying it's right … but we understand.

But if Flynn's in line for a big payday, the Packers might want to get their cut, too. Yes, Flynn's set to be an unrestricted free agent in a few months, but there's a chance Green Bay could franchise him. No, seriously.

Because there may be little time (or opportunity) to trade Flynn before the start of free agency in March, the Packers' might get the biggest return on their investment by franchising him. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Tom Silverstein explains:
In exchange for being tagged, Flynn would receive a one-year deal worth the average of the last five franchise tag numbers at his position. Last year, the franchise number for quarterbacks was around $14 million, and it's likely to be higher this year.

So once the Packers tag Flynn, that $14 million counts against their salary cap. Flynn would automatically become the highest-paid player on the team in terms of annual salary.

NFL teams are prohibited from trading franchise players. In fact, the rules say you may not franchise a player with the intent to sign him to a contract and then trade him. However, this rule has been broken before and the NFL tends to look the other way.
Silverstein adds that the move isn't without risk for the Packers. Putting aside the illegality of a tag and trade, there's also the issue of having a $14 million backup on your roster if other teams aren't sufficiently interested in trading for him. Which means that team president Ted Thompson would have to work with Flynn's agent "behind the scenes to find a trading partner and then negotiate a deal suitable to Flynn."

Silverstein was told by a "prominent agent who has represented a franchise player" that Green Bay could be in line for a first-round pick at minimum for Flynn, and maybe a first- and third-rounder.

That sounds, well, extreme, especially since Hue Jackson already traded for Carson Palmer. Then again, Redskins owner Dan Snyder isn't afraid to mortgage the future for the possibility of success now. 

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Comments

Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: January 3, 2012 9:11 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

just because he had one good game doesnt make him the best qb. all it means the pakers superior talent showed up. the o line did a good job, the receivers caught the ball. every body has a good game once in a while. i imagine rodgers did not want him to do that good



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2012 9:03 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

What do you want the guy to do - play worse? He certainly can't play any better. Teams draft college QBs every year and give them big , when they've only played against inferior competition. If you can't scout Flynn in his two NFL starts, you shouldn't get paid money to be a scout. The guy makes alll the throws. I suppose GB should never have gotten rid of Faver - after all, Rodgers had never 'proved himself. 

The difference is Rodgers didn't get his big money extension until half way through his first full season in the NFL.  Rodgers didn't have 1 game in each of 2 seasons for experience, he at least had half his first season where he went against good competition every week with teams preparing for him on a weekly basis.   Flynn is about to get a big money deal from somewhere with far less experience then that.... and by the way, Rodgers was a late first round pick wasn't he??  Flynn was a 7th round pick... even the Packers skipped over him 6 times before they drafted him.  Don't compare Rodgers and Flynn..... 

And finally the Packers didn't get rid of Favre, they would have kept him another couple years and Rodgers wouldn't be a Packer if Favre wouldn't have screwed them around making them wait until well after the draft to give them an answer.  There isn't even a one percent chance the Packers would have chosen Rodgers over Favre if Favre would have made the commitment to play in GB well before the draft.  The Packers had scheduled their management team to fly to Favre's home to meet with him and Favre cancelled,,, or he would have remained a Packer and Rodgers would have left a year later as a free agent. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2012 8:57 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Maybe he is the next Kolb or maybe he is the next Rodgers or Schaub?

You could say that about almost any quarterback in the NFL that hasn't gotten the chance to show their stuff.  Matt Flynn appears to be a good qb but 2 good games in 2 different seasons against teams that struggle mightily against the pass isn't much of a sample to judge a player on.  That being said I already mentioned there is a huge demand for quarterbacks in the league with at least 5 or 6 teams in desperate need for a qb and probably 4 or 5 others with at best mediocre qb's on their roster.  The more I read up on this the more I think there is a fantastic chance the Packers actually franchise Flynn and negotiate a trade with somebody after they do.  They might franchise him and give Flynn's agent the ok to talk to other teams and trade him to the highest bidder.  It's a little bit of a gamble because if a trade doesn't go through the Packers will be stuck with a 15 million dollar backup quarterback that'll never see the field in any game that matters.  And if not for a trade nobody will sign Flynn because they'll have to give up 2 first round picks for him, nobody will do that for a guy with 2 good starts under his belt.   One more thing that hurts the Packers if they franchise him is their tight end Finley might be as good as gone.  They can only use one franchise tag which will allow Finley to market his services to the highest bidder. 



Since: Feb 15, 2011
Posted on: January 3, 2012 8:49 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

What do you want the guy to do - play worse? He certainly can't play any better. Teams draft college QBs every year and give them big money, when they've only played against inferior competition. If you can't scout Flynn in his two NFL starts, you shouldn't get paid money to be a scout. The guy makes alll the throws. I suppose GB should never have gotten rid of Faver - after all, Rodgers had never 'proved himself.



Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2012 8:28 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Maybe he is the next Kolb or maybe he is the next Rodgers or Schaub?



Since: Apr 13, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2012 8:24 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Flynn is better than Kolb!



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2012 7:43 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

I  how people show their ignorance more and more when they speak. Anyone who really knows football remembers that Flynn also did this last year against the Patriots and the Patriots bearly hung on to beat the Packers. And that was the Packers last loss before their loss to the Chiefs. Flynn has shown that he's mastered the West Coast offense in Mike Mccarthy's system. 

You talk like that and have the nerve to insult other people and call them ignorant?  You tell us that anybody that knows football should know that Flynn also did well against the Patriots last year, but I think you might have a little to learn about the game of football yourself.

I'm not here to say that Flynn is or isn't for real because I have absolutely no idea, and for the record neither do you.  Last year the Pats passing defence was a whopping 32nd in the NFL ( not much better this year either) so I wouldn't be nominating anybody that torches the Pats defence for MVP anytime soon.  The Detroit Lions huge weakness this year is against the pass, and that problem only got worse with injuries to their defensive backfield.  Don't get me wrong, the kid had a great game against the Lions on Sunday, I have to admit I was very impressed at his poise, arm strength and accuracy.  But for you to call people stupid for second guessing whether or not Flynn is good by saying Flynn has "mastered" anything is retarded at best.

Let's see how Flynn pans out before we make any crazy predictions or judgements, let's see how he does in a full 17 week and 16 game season with defensive coordinators preparing for him and scouts watching him in pre-season and in regular season games. If he performs well over a complete season then you can talk... until then you don't know any more then the guy that predicts Flynn will suck.

One prediction that I can and will easily make that 100 percent will come true is Flynn is going to be a very rich man this summer. There are way too many teams in desperate need of a qb and will take the gamble on a guy they don't have to trade for.  Whether he succeeds or fails doesn't even matter because after he signs this new deal he won't have to work another day in his life, that's the sad part. 



Since: Aug 23, 2007
Posted on: January 3, 2012 6:24 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

I love how people show their ignorance more and more when they speak. Anyone who really knows football remembers that Flynn also did this last year against the Patriots and the Patriots bearly hung on to beat the Packers. And that was the Packers last loss before their loss to the Chiefs. Flynn has shown that he's mastered the West Coast offense in Mike Mccarthy's system.

But if you really looked at the game, you will see the guy is an excellent decision maker and has great accuracy too. Which has nothing to do with " a system" and has everything to do with the guy being legitimate.

Flynn is not the next Kevin Kolb. Flynn is the next Matt Schaub. Or the next Rich Gannon.



Since: Feb 21, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2012 5:50 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

My 92 year old grandmother could be franchised if she played against the Lions' secondary.



Since: Aug 16, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2012 5:37 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

If it's so easy to succeed in the Packers system, why hasn't McCarthy been nearly as successful in other years? Why do the recievers drop the 6th most amount of passes in the league? Why is the offensive line and running game near the bottom of the league? Why does the defense suck?

The answer is that Aaron Rodgers is a great QB and Flynn is a good up and coming QB. And great QB's make great teams. Even before this game I remember Packers fans talking about how good he has looked in preseason. For all of the records Rodgers broke this season, not even he could do what Flynn did this past Sunday.

The team that lands Matt Flynn will be very fortunate. He has already proven to be a better QB than Kolb.


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