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Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

Posted on: January 7, 2012 3:23 pm
 
IrsayBy Josh Katzowitz

With Colts owner Jim Irsay currently looking for a general manager to replace Chris Polian, who was fired along with his father Bill last week, he won’t have to ask anybody he interviews how they’d handle the 2012 No. 1 draft pick. That’s because he already knows what he wants, according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen.

As has long been suspected, the Colts reportedly will choose Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck in April, and no matter who’s brought in to take over for the Polian’s, that decision will not be altered.

Some wondered if the reason Bill Polian was fired in the first place was because he and Peyton Manning weren’t getting along -- Irsay is an unabashed fan of his quarterback and thinks of him as family. Polian said the rumors of a rift were untrue.

"He was the first person into the office after it happened," Polian told the Associated Press on Wednesdasy. "There's no rift at all. None.

Now, though, the big questions continue to be what the Colts actually will do about Manning, who’s due a $28 million bonus in March. Would Manning want to play with Luck? Will Manning's neck be healthy? Would the Colts ship Manning somewhere else to give Luck the chance to play immediately?

Now that we seemingly know who the Colts will take with the No. 1 pick, we might have to wait a few more months before the rest of those other questions can be answered.  

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Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: January 12, 2012 11:57 pm
 

Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

Oh.  Thanks for clearing that up.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 11, 2012 7:58 am
 

Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

That factuality you claim is based on your observations, which are subjective.  Just like some guy back in the day claiming Ryan Leaf would be the next John Elway, and there were plenty of such guys.  You're right- greatness can be projected.  Those guys projected Leaf would be great, just like you project Luck will be great.  
 



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 5:34 am
 

Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

That is your silly rule.
... Except that I did not make it up.  We have already established as a fact that you are ignorant, so I am not surprised that you have not heard this adage before.  There is a certain factuality to it as well - about once every fifteen years a college QB comes around that simply has "franchise" written all over him.  That's not triviality; it's history.  (BTW, you are the one that chose to write "other examples of every fifteen year QB's" when you made the insipid posting that got this started.)

That was so far from the case with Russell that it is hardly worth further comment.  Greatness is not exclusively the domain of hindsight - that is what you do not seem capable of grasping.  Greatness can, in fact, be projected; it may only be quantified after the fact.  There is a big difference there.

There are no guarantees in life, but if Andrew Luck stays healthy, he will be great.  He has the pedigree, the intelligence, the athleticism, and the track record in a pro-style system to establish beyond reasonable doubt that this will occur.  Let's not forget that Stanford had a pretty poor gridiron record for several years prior to Luck's enrollment.  The Cardinal simply do not have the quality of players - at least in terms of depth - as the SEC schools or other traditional powers.

Luck stayed in college a year after he would have been projected as perhaps the first overall pick in the draft.  We've seen that before only to see QB's such as Leinert and Quinn fall badly in the draft the next year.  Under this pressure, and under a new coach, he still demonstrated that he has the characteristics - both measurable traits and the more important intangibles - to succeed at the next level.

Stating things such as:
Your projection for Leaf has as much validity as the projections made for Leaf and Russell. 
... Demonstrate a lack of critical thinking.  It is laziness and a cop-out.  It is simply wrong.





Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 5:20 am
 

Gotcha!

grouping Leaf with Manning and Elway 
Of course I meant grouping Luck with Manning and Elway.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 3:32 am
 

Thanks for the correction

My having Leaf ahead of Manning was wrong.  I'm not obliged to space quarterbacks fifteen years apart, howvever.  That is your silly rule.  My point is that every now and then (that the now and then must be fifteen years apart is trivial) great hoopla surrounds some quarterback.  Some of these turn out to be great, and as we agree, this greatness is only observable in hindsight. Without the benefit of such hindsight grouping Leaf with Manning and Elway is absurd. Your projection for Leaf has as much validity as the projections made for Leaf and Russell.  

No-brainers go without saying, except for no-brainers. 



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:02 am
 

Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

Ryan Leaf was selected in the same draft as Peyton, ahead of him as a matter of fact, so by your cipherin' that's on your fifteen year cycle.

(As a matter of fact, Peyton Manning was selected first overall in his draft year.  Ryan Leaf was drafted second.  For someone with such thin skin, you shouldn't run your ignorance up the flagpole for everyone to mock so easily.)

That's your cipherin', and not mine.  You cited Leaf and Russell - they're not even close to being fifteen years apart.  There are a lot of first round busts.  That's what makes QB's like Elway and Manning all the more remarkable.  Obviously, it is way too early to know if Luck will belong in that category.  That is simply we can only use foresight.  We may, however, use history as a guide; I maintain that Luck is very likely to develop into a franchise QB - we can make projections with this degree of confidence about once every fifteen years.  You can challenge me again in about twenty years when Luck is retired.

And the proof your low wattage?  That you would consider a prediction of the Colts' taking Luck as insightful.
I did not claim this to be insightful; I called it a no-brainer.  That is a choice that requires no special insight... I am 'splainin' it to you since that eluded you earlier.  I certainly hope that the sun will come up in the morning... you clearly need more light.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 11:49 pm
 

Low wattage

Well, Billy, Ryan Leaf was selected in the same draft as Peyton, ahead of him as a matter of fact, so by your cipherin' that's on your fifteen year cycle.

And who died and made you chief cicada? No one is obliged to follow your fifteen year cycle.  Your light does not shine brightly enough for you to perceive that JaMarcus Russell was the Andrew Luck of his day. Bluntly, your annointment of Luck as having the same stature as Manning or Elway is preposterous.  And the proof your low wattage?  That you would consider a prediction of the Colts' taking Luck as insightful.  Next you'll be telling us that the sun will come up in the morning.



Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: January 8, 2012 10:35 pm
 

Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

so dalton sux? he got his team to the playoffs as a rookie QB. better than what manning did his rookie year, right? so how bad do the colts suck? 2- 14 bad, real bad. no defense, no offensive line, aging WR's, no RB. what's manning going to do next year? i don't care about cincy, they been sucking for a long time. but the smart thing they did was trade palmer to a desperate team for a boat load of draft picks. now, if the colts are smart they'll do exactly what cincy did. if the colts are dumb, they will do 2 things. 1) keep caldwell and 2) keep manning & draft luck, then sit him on the bench to watch manning get beat down behind that crappy o-line. that's provided his neck/shoulder/arm is healed enough to even make a pro throw. remember that's why he had the 3rd surgery to begin with.

we had 3 QB's this year throw for more than 5000 yards, if manning's so great how come he never throw for 5,000? against 2 expansion teams (texans and jags) for most of his career. come on, man. and why doesn't he have a winning record in the playoffs? 1 super bowl, come on, man? i got 2 words for you.. jeff hoestetler. i got 2 more.. trent dilfer. i got 2 more.. brad johnson. get the picture? don't give me that crap about the colts winning 100 regular season games in 10 years.. it netted 1 SB! the same as tampa bay.. next.

 



Since: Nov 17, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 9:19 pm
 

Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

El Conquistador- no offense but that wasn't a very intelligent comment....u mention guys like Dalton? He threw for 3,400 yards this year and that was the 4th most of all time for a rookie QB. Rookie QBs stink, period. There are a few exceptions but for the most part they suck. Cam Newton is really the only guy i've seen ever to be great as a rookie....everyone else is average at best. Dalton was a bottom tier QB this year and to act like he was great is stupid. Sure the Bengals got to the playoffs and Dalton played great for "a rookie" but what are we talking about here? 3,400 yards? That's impressive to you....not a very impressive analysis.



Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: January 8, 2012 5:03 pm
 

Report: Colts will take Andrew Luck with top pick

JimJam is right on. manning padded his stats vs. weak divisional foes.. texans sucked for 10 yrs., so did the jags. what is peytons record in the playoffs? a LOSING record. 1 superbowl, that's it?? he got lucky he played against rex grossman or he would have zero rings. manning is nothing more than jim everett with a superbowl. next year, he'll be back to his happy footed, playing scared ways. except now, at 36 with 3 neck surgeries, let's hope he doesn't take a joe thiesman like hit to the head/neck & get decapitated on national television. he's starting to look like herman munster with that arched neck and weird shaped head. is that a result of his operations or has he always looked like that?? time to retire??


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