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Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

Posted on: January 9, 2012 4:56 pm
Edited on: January 9, 2012 6:46 pm
 
Michael Philbin hasn't been seen since Sunday morning.By Josh Katzowitz

UPDATED (5:43 p.m. ET): ESPN Milwaukee's Jason Wilde is reporting that the Packers players have been told that the body has been indentified as Michael Philbin.

Earlier in the day, here's what coach Mike McCarthy had to say: "The Philbin family is obviously going through a tough time. As we always have, we're family-first in this organization. We're supporting Joe and his family the best we can, and we're holding out hope that this comes to a positive conclusion."

According to WFRV out of Green Bay, Oshkosh police are not releasing the name of the body due to "family wishes." Foul play is not suspected, but the investigation of the incident is still under investigation.

From the Twitter account of Giants defensive end Justin Tuck, whose squad faces Green Bay this weekend: "Our prayers go out to the Philbin family and Packer nation for their loss."

UPDATED (5:03 p.m. ET):
According to the Northwestern.com, a body has been recovered from the river but no positive ID has been made yet.

Police said the body of a man between the ages of 20-25 was recovered in about 15 feet of water, 30 yards from the shore at about 3 p.m. Monday.

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Police in Oshkosh, Wis., are searching for a person who might have fallen through the ice and into the Fox River, and at the same time, police are asking for help from the public to locate the whereabouts of 21-year-old Michael T. Philbin, the son of Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin.

As the Northwestern.com reports, divers began to search for the missing person early Sunday when a man reported he thought he heard somebody crying out for help from the river about 2:30 a.m.

Michael Philbin was last heard from early Sunday while he was on a trip to visit friends at the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh. He spoke to somebody on his cell phone about 2 a.m., and he wasn’t reported missing until about 8 p.m. Sunday. Police do not suspect foul play.

The police, though, are treating the missing persons report and the possible drowning as two separate incidents.

Philbin is described as 5-foot-11 and 155 pounds with brown hair and hazel eyes. Anyone with any information on Philbin is asked to call Oshkosh police at (920) 236-5700.

In the past week, Joe Philbin has interviewed for the head coaching jobs for the Chiefs and the Dolphins.

"The Packers organization is aware of the missing person report regarding Michael Philbin, son of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin," the Packers said in a statement released Monday. "Our thoughts and prayers are with the Philbin family during this difficult time. We ask anyone with information about Michael to contact the Oshkosh Police Department."

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Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: January 11, 2012 4:20 pm
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

How can something come from nothing.
As I've already explained, no Theory says that something comes from nothing. You misunderstand the principles involved.

If I were to build a house and put all the wood, nails, and other building supplies for the house and then place a bunch of dynamite in the middle and let it explode should I expect to get a newly built house? Even if I give the pile millions of years to build itself up into a house, that would still not happen.
And again, I've explained that Evolution does not violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics. I think you might be getting lost in your analogy. The Earth alone is far more complex and varied than your simple analogy, and it receives unlimited energy from the sun. This energy is what made it possible to move toward order from chaos.

Also, if evolution were true then on Earth there would have to be thousands of transitional fossil in the fossil record.
There are. But even without the "thosands of transitional fossils", palentologists Niles Eldredge and Stephen Jay Gould demostrated clear back in 1972 that gaps in the fossil record do not indicate missing data of slow and stately change; rather, it is evidence of rapid and episodic change. The mistake you're making here is to assume that all evolution was a slow and gradual process. We know for a fact that cataclysms have led to dramatic shifts in evolution.

But you don't have to go very far to find transitional evidence.

Google the lungfish, if you will. And Monotremes (egg laying mammals) such as the duck-billed platypus and spiny anteater are a clear living transitions between reptiles/birds/mammals. That doesn't even include genetics tests and the fact all life on earth uses the same left-handed chemical structure and are composed of the same 20 or so amino acids, etc.

BTW, I'm not going to insult or heckle you (unless it's in response to the same). I'm happy to engage you in a civil manner. No offense to others posting here, but it's counterproductive. Let me know if you have any further questions.



Since: Oct 23, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 2:24 pm
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

The evidence that I have is the following; How can something come from nothing. How can an explosion create life?...
That not evidence...those are questions.
Questions that your are clearly uncapable of comprehending.

You asked for evidence. Both us us provided you with plenty. You refuse to ackownledge it.

I ask you to provide evidence for creatationism and you go to the bible...really.
The bible is faith, not evidence. Nothing in the bible can be proven. You either believe it or you don't.

You stat this;

In the first Chapter of the Bible ith describes how God created the universe and the Earth. God was there when the universe created so i rely on what his written word says versus scientists who believe that life was created from an explosion.
Umm...god didn't write the bible. Man did.
Please provide evidence, not a belief system or a faith, yet the same type that we provide to you. That meets the same standards. that holds up to models, peer review, ... that god was there?

FYI - the bible also say god created man in his likeness. So does that mean that god looks like the cavemen in the Gieco commercials?

 



Since: Jun 22, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 11:22 am
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

What evidence do you have that support Creationism?
The evidence that I have is the following: How can something come from nothing. How can an explosion create life? I saw the article you [osted and it seems that you are assuming that an explosion eventually led to the creation of life.


If I were to build a house and put all the wood, nails, and other building supplies for the house and then place a bunch of dynamite in the middle and let it explode should I expect to get a newly built house? Even if I give the pile millions of years to build itself up into a house, that would still not happen.


Also, if evolution were true then on Earth there would have to be thousands of transitional fossil in the fossil record. A few of the so called transitional forms that were found have been proven to be frauds. One example is Nebraska man. The person who "found" Nebraska man only found one tooth and then created a model off of the one tooth that he found. It turned out that the tooth that he found was from an extinct pig.


But hey, RepublicanMan, I'm sure you're smarter than these NASA Nobel Prize winners, because you get all your infortion from Rush and Sarah Palin.
That is incorrect. I get my information from the Bible. In the first Chapter of the Bible ith describes how God created the universe and the Earth. God was there when the universe created so i rely on what his written word says versus scientists who believe that life was created from an explosion.



Since: Oct 23, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 10:01 am
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

@lotus What evidence do you have that supports evolution?
Hey RepublicanMan,

As you can see I responded to this below.

However, I would like to ask you the same question.

What evidence do you have that support Creationism?

Something other than that at some point in your life, someone (a paernt, a preacher, an Indian chief) told you that you have to beleive in it.



Since: Oct 23, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 9:56 am
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

@lotus What evidence do you have that supports evolution?


Sorry to jump in here lotus, but I thought I'd reply.

RepublicanMan, while it is not my duty in life to educate you, the attached link is a good place for you to start.



Like I said, this is a good place to start. But there are plenty more studies out there for you to review. When you read this link, assuming you can in fact read, please take note of these items.

Astronomers combine mathematical models with observations to develop workable theories of how the Universe came to be. The mathematical underpinnings of the Big Bang theory include Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity along with standard theories of fundamental particles. Today NASA spacecraft such as the Hubble Space Telescope and the Spitzer Space Telescope continue Edwin Hubble's work of measuring the expansion of the Universe.

NASA has launched two missions to study the cosmic background radiation, taking "baby pictures" of the Universe only 400,000 years after it was born. The first of these was the (COBE). In 1992, the COBE team announced that they had mapped the primordial hot and cold spots in cosmic background radiation. These spots are related to the gravitational field in the early Universe and form the seeds of the giant clusters of galaxies that stretch hundreds of millions of light years across the Universe. This work earned NASA's Dr. John C. Mather and George F. Smoot of the University of California the 2006 Nobel Prize for Physics.

But hey, RepublicanMan, I'm sure you're smarter than these NASA Nobel Prize winners, because you get all your infortion from Rush and Sarah Palin.




Since: Oct 23, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 9:34 am
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

did u really just say science is a bad thing??  it proves most questions in life and many of the falacies made up by religion.  idiot


No I said;

Science isn't a bad thing...and I'm sorry if it makes people questions their beliefs.

How come so many people here have trouble with reading comprehension?



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: January 11, 2012 12:32 am
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

@lotus What evidence do you have that supports evolution?
The preponderance of evidence that already exists: the fossil record, the homologies, genetics, molecular biology, what is observed in nature and reproduced in the lab, proteins, vestigial and atavistic organs, embryology, biogeography, bacteriology, virology, immunology, all of the above's distribution in time and space - all of supports the Theory of Evolution.

You're going to have to be a little more specific than that.



Since: Jun 22, 2008
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:26 pm
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

@lotus What evidence do you have that supports evolution?



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: January 10, 2012 7:49 pm
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd

I am bothered by the fact that someone heard cracking ice, a cry for help, at 2:30 am.  Yet a body was not found until 3pm Monday.  Does this mean that the person who heard this at 2:30 am did not call it in to 911?  A search did not begin until
early Sunday morning.  This in itself is a tragedy.
The way I read it, the person reported it at 2:30AM, which is early Sunday morning. A search and resuce operation takes time to mount, so I don't see any place here where someone would have been negligent. As the article said, the search started at least a day before the body was found. That it took them a day to find the body is not something you can blame anyone for. It just took as long as it took.



Since: Jan 10, 2012
Posted on: January 10, 2012 7:43 pm
 

Report: Body of Joe Philbin's son positively ID'd


I am bothered by the fact that someone heard cracking ice, a cry for help, at 2:30 am.  Yet a body was not found until 3pm Monday.  Does this mean that the person who heard this at 2:30 am did not call it in to 911?  A search did not begin until
early Sunday morning.  This in itself is a tragedy.
 


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